Details Emerge Regarding 'Face ID' Setup Process on iPhone X

[Porco]

I think this will work better than a lot of people seem to be assuming, even though I still think it seems like an over-engineered solution to a problem they created for themselves, to some extent.

That said, I hope FaceID wasn't what was used to protect all this information from being leaked!!

It's interesting that so many people rolled their eyes at the fun animated emojii story, yet that technology proves that you could do far more with FaceID than simply have it respond 'yes - unlock' or 'no - don't unlock'. You could have a whole range of options like 'blink twice to launch safari' or 'wink at the camera with your tongue sticking out' to turn the phone off... 'roll your eyes and mouth a curse word' to delete spam... etc.

 

[Middiebear]

Guys, remember the faceid can be set to scan every second or every 5 second that is still you,and when you are sleeping your eyes are closed. A touchid is way easier since they need 1 contact and you can play with that phone until the battery is gone, but with a faceid that scans you every 5 seconds otherwise it will lock the phone? What you do?

But what if I want another person to use my phone temporarily?

For example:

I want my wife to look something up on my phone- the phone will lock again after 5 seconds- even though I gave her the phone to use?

 

[Strozzascotte]

I wonder if it works like the surface or if instead if it actually works. I grow facial hair. I wear glasses and hats. I tan. Do I have to register every combination of those?

Most of the time I wear an eyepatch. I wonder if it will work with me.

 

[Macalway]

All this talk is making me want it. Leak?

Yeah right. Leaky like a fox

 

[AndrewR23]

lol to all the ppl who said face Id wouldn't replace touch ID.

 

[Macalway]

Most of the time I wear an eyepatch. I wonder if it will work with me.

I hope not. God save us matey,

 

[wolfie]

Why does it have to be one or the other. Could have both.

 

[Macalway]

Why does it have to be one or the other. Could have both.

Word is: you don't want both.

 

[44267547]

Have you not been following the rumours? Do you honestly think that Apple will let a photo unlock the phone? It boggles my mind how people think that Apple hasn't thought of obvious simple things such as this. It's called 'advanced' facial recognition for a reason. Samsung this isn't.

What you're not factoring, is nobody has had the ability to physically test this new feature yet. Naturally, there are some who doubt this type of security, because they don't have any experience or knowledge with it other than what they have read from the Internet. Therefore, until it can be physically tested and proven that it can't be corrupted or hacked, you are going to have doubters one way or the other.

Not to mention, this type of technology is new and besides those who are ignorant of understanding how it works, they don't trust something they don't have experience with yet. So I see both sides of the spectrum, even though I trust Apple of my security regardless.

 

[dojoman]

If using Face ID for payment, how do you prevent accidental payment? With touch ID, as long as your thumb isn't on the home button, the payment won't go through.

You have to double click power button to bring up wallet just like Apple Watch.

 

[ke-iron]

So with Touch ID you just put your phone on the payment reader and use your finger. Now will I have to lean my face on the card reader

That’s what I thought at first but reports have it that this thing can read your face even while lying flat. So basically it can read your face from extreme angles. If you can see the sensor at an off angle, then the sensor can also see you.

 

[Macalway]

even though I trust Apple of my security regardless.

My goodness.
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That’s what I thought at first but reports have it that this thing can read your face even while lying flat. So basically it can read your face from extreme angles. If you can see the sensor at an off angle, then the sensor can also see you.

You make it sound magical. I'm dubious.

 

[DEXTERITY]

Apple dropped the ball with losing touch ID - stupid move

 

[kruegdude]

Pardon my non-tech savvy self, but how, exactly, do these leaks even happen? Does it mean someone hacked Apple to obtain the GM of iOS 11? Or was it shared by Apple accidentally? And if so, how or where? Can they track down who or what is responsible for these leaks?

Apparently John Gruber over at Daring Fireball (https://daringfireball.net/linked/2017/09/09/ios-11-gm)
suspects that someone within Apple leaked some "long, unguessable URLs" to the GM builds.

 

[dojoman]

What you're not factoring, is nobody has had the ability to physically test this new feature yet. Naturally, there are some who doubt this type of security, because they don't have any experience or knowledge with it other than what they have read from the Internet. Therefore, until it can be physically tested and proven that it can't be corrupted or hacked, you are going to have doubters one way or the other.

Not to mention, this type of technology is new and besides those who are ignorant of understanding how it works, they don't trust something they don't have experience with yet. So I see both sides of the spectrum, even though I trust Apple of my security regardless.

Ever heard of Apple employees? Apple just don’t put new tech without testing it extensively, not sure if you ever worked at a tech company. There are many iterative testing. Look at Touch ID it works from day 1.

 

[canadianreader]

Pardon my non-tech savvy self, but how, exactly, do these leaks even happen? Does it mean someone hacked Apple to obtain the GM of iOS 11? Or was it shared by Apple accidentally? And if so, how or where? Can they track down who or what is responsible for these leaks?

Yeah it’s catastrophic for their keynote and even their market stocks. As per the leak, it’s gotta be someone from inside the company to access a sensitive file like this one, since only few would possess it for testing purposes. I don’t know how macrumors and 9to5mac will be viewed by Apple after these publications. We know what happened to Gizmodo after iPhone 4 leaks or maybe this is just a different situation but I’m pretty sure at Apple they are quite angry right now.

 

[Frisco]

How am I supposed to use this iPhone X on Halloween when I am Trick or Treating?

 

[44267547]

Ever heard of Apple employees? Apple just don’t put new tech without testing it extensively, not sure if you ever worked at a tech company. There are many iterative testing. Look at Touch ID it works from day 1.

Not insinuating the technology won't work, it's the afterthought of how someone naturally will doubt this because they don't fully understand it. But regardless, the iPhone has not been released to the mass public, therefore again, you're going people that will question this type of technology because they don't have any hands-on experience with it. Most, if not all consumers, do not work for a tech company, so that's not conducive to real world experience.

 

[Compote]

How do I stop the police getting me to unlock my phone, currently if I use the wrong finger enough times it needs a passcode which I have forgotten, I can't change my face while the police have me in restraint

Neither your face nor your prints are condidential information. So there you go. If you want to be a criminal, use a code.

 

[miniyou64]

This is going to fail hard. And iPhone X is ugly

 

[Juan007]

INCREDIBLE! Face ID, unlock your phone with your face!! If this is true, it's a homerun for Apple, LIGHT YEARS ahead of the competition.

 

[hugo7]

I think this will work better than a lot of people seem to be assuming, even though I still think it seems like an over-engineered solution to a problem they created for themselves, to some extent.

Exactly. It really feels like a compromised device being brought to the market.

Touch ID is such an elegant solution, and this Face ID alternative is now a replacement (instead of supplemental) feature because Apple couldn't get the "fingerprint reader-under-the-screen" technology to work (reliably?) in time. Of course, this is all conjecture and we won't really know the real situation until the new iPhone is unveiled on Tuesday.

But if Touch ID has a gone, that will be a damn shame.

 

[JohnApples]

How am I supposed to use this iPhone X on Halloween when I am Trick or Treating?

Umm... use your passcode?

Is this a serious concern of yours?

 

[miniyou64]

You can always opt to not set up Face ID and use a passcode instead while continuing to enjoy all the other features of iPhone X. Just because the feature is there it doesn’t mean you have to make use of it if you’re concerned over this type of issue.

The point is Touch ID worked for this case , so this is a step backwards

 

[canadianreader]

I'm in the camp of viewing FaceID as a huge step back relative to TouchID.

I'll echo another post in saying that this feature is attempting to resolve a problem that was never there.

Much appears to be lost with the removal of the Home button just for some extra screen real estate; making the iPhone experience much more complicated than it needs to be.

We'll have to wait and see if this new step in direction is a good one in real world use.

Though for now it doesn't seem very promising.

That’s why there’s iPhone 7s a.k.a. iPhone 8 to redeem the lack of touch id on the iPhone X so whenever you’ll complain they’ll tell you “you know you can buy the 7s if you’re not happy”