I really don't think it's the design direction that people had problems with in regards to win8, it's the functionality that was all wonky. You just can't slap on a touch interface to non-touch devices and call it a day.
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I really don't think it's the design direction that people had problems with in regards to win8, it's the functionality that was all wonky. You just can't slap on a touch interface to non-touch devices and call it a day.
They aren't the same people. This forum has been known to harbour people of differing opinions, sometimes even in the same thread.
Still it can't be long before we all evolve into a unified hive-mind. I give it another decade. Apple is probably working on it already.
That's funny, considering your signature states that you own an iphone. Pretty unusual to buy something that you hate. Did you buy it in the hopes that one day apple would remove the shine and gloss and give you a more 'Windows 8 Phone' look?
Good lord, my body is so ready. He's done amazing things already, no reason not to trust his judgement in this area
Wait... a new UI will effect your body!!
Heavens...your body is ready ...for what???
There's something scary going on here...please explain!!
I also think the weather app icon should read the actual weather. I think Android widgets take up a lot of space, I prefer the space integrity that the iOS grid provides.
I think the whole skeumorphistic approach to software design gets a bigger rap than it deserves. Some of the native apps in the latest versions of iOS & OS X look awesome, like Calculator, Reminders and Calendar. There are probably some other examples out there of designs that are not executed so well, but for the most part I like the tangible touches Apple puts on their creations -- productivity apps resembling office supplies and such, but without too many extraneous details. Just enough to give them some unique form and charm.
Still, I'm really stoked to see the next iOS, just because things need to get shaken up sometimes and I'm always excited to check out new ideas. I'm assuming flat means there's going to be lots of aesthetic uniformity across the board as well. I hope Apple can take an approach to flat design that's both attractive and intuitive. Microsoft kind of lost me with the Metro UI.
Still, I'm really stoked to see the next iOS, just because things need to get shaken up sometimes and I'm always excited to check out new ideas. I'm assuming flat means there's going to be lots of aesthetic uniformity across the board as well. I hope Apple can take an approach to flat design that's both attractive and intuitive. Microsoft kind of lost me with the Metro UI.
Wait... a new UI will effect your body!!
Heavens...your body is ready ...for what???
There's something scary going on here...please explain!!
Unless you're being sarcastic, you need to be more up to date with your internet memes.
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Android widgets take up however much space you want, there is no such thing as "space integrity".
100,000+ apps with flat icons?
Are we forgetting the 100,000+ apps that would require icon makeovers? How are designers supposed to distinguish their apps? Realism, or skeuomorphism, is what made OSX and iOS amusing. I can't imagine my large collection of apps as Windowish glyphs. It would look like Arlington National Cemetery.
Are we forgetting the 100,000+ apps that would require icon makeovers? How are designers supposed to distinguish their apps? Realism, or skeuomorphism, is what made OSX and iOS amusing. I can't imagine my large collection of apps as Windowish glyphs. It would look like Arlington National Cemetery.
Unless you're being sarcastic, you need to be more up to date with your internet memes.
I was both being...well, silly...AND I am unfamiliar with many of the internet memes.
Just old and out of it!
I don't think people's problem with skeuomorphism is how it looks, but rather how it works. When it is a functional advantage, be it an innate intuitiveness to the UI or function in the case of physical objects (like this, good lord, what a beautiful UI -- http://erikssonjonas.com/76-Synthesizer) or simply because of habit/familiarity (as in the little rung on a maple syrup jug), that's good for the user and good design.
The problem is when it not only fails to contribute anything at all, but actually impedes functionality. Then that's bad design, and that's what a lot of the OS X skeuomorphs represent.
In the case of Reminders and Calendar, it wastes my time processing the unnecessary fluff. That's why I use Notefile and a Fluid App contained Google Calendar instead. Also, maybe it's because I have a science background and am used to algebra systems, but there is no good reason in today's age a Calculator app should have buttons that you need to press with a mouse (I guess you could use your keyboard, but since we're talking about skeuomorphism)... with a tiny output screen that only shows one line of in/output. The casual user doesn't need Mathematica or MATLAB, but Soulver represents everything I think a Calculator app should be.
That's a good point about the "gloss" on so many app icons. Not all of them have it, but almost like a template, there's a faux bubbly gleam effect placed on most third party apps, and I think all of the stock ones.
If they aim to remove much of the gloss from the UI, I wonder what their plan is for that, because that's where most of it seems to come from.
If they aim to remove much of the gloss from the UI, I wonder what their plan is for that, because that's where most of it seems to come from.
Uh, no one is talking about icons, just the UI, which frankly, looks childish and outdated today. It definitely needs to "grow up", much like OS X did from its Aqua days. And even if Apple decided to revamp every icon, why are other app developers necessarily beholden to do so themselves? It's not like there's any consistency to how icons are made now except that they have to be in a little rounded square.
The gloss on app icons is added by iOS automatically on top of the provided .png icon unless the dev specifically set the info.plist not to add the effect.
iOS 7 could override this and remove the gloss from the majority of app icons without having to modify the apps themselves.
Edit: Here's some details about how it works : http://iosdevelopertips.com/general/remove-shine-gloss-effect-on-iphone-icon.html
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Unless you're being sarcastic, you need to be more up to date with your internet memes.
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Android widgets take up however much space you want, there is no such thing as "space integrity".
Exactly, you can have 1x1 widgets and go from there. My only widget that's bigger than 1x1 is clock/weather.
I was both being...well, silly...AND I am unfamiliar with many of the internet memes.
Just old and out of it!
It's used often, it comes from a nintendo rep named Reggie who once said "my body is ready!" in a presentation for Wii Fit I think. Now it's basically used to mean "I'm incredibly excited for this."
"iOS7? My body is ready man!"
Ahhh the internets.
Thanks, I was curious if this was some transparency Apple added per the Apple Store submittal process. I would find it difficult to believe so many thousands of app developers all decided to add the effect to their icons on their own accord, unless it was either mandated or "heavily recommended" and made very simple to do.
Thanks for taking the time to explain it to me.
One small piece of information that will help me avoid humiliating myself in the future quite as often as I do now!
Well I'm betting its more like windows 8 than we think but with a lot of functionality and probably not that flat. I'm also hoping the entire OS is rewritten to be resolution independent. But I'm thinking it will function a lot like this concept and this guy was hired by Apple right after this concept
http://youtu.be/wLy7gN3Okc4
http://youtu.be/wLy7gN3Okc4