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... Good job Eidos! Prevent people from being able to buy your product, and require them to pirate!

Like they have no choice whatsoever to do something else. No one is forcing them to play the game. Unless that is the plot of Crank 3
 
Plus, do you think they won't be able to hack the jailbroken iOS to lie to apps? Eidos is doing a check which may stop jailbrakers for a week or three, but it won't be long before jailbreakers are covering their tracks with a hack to misreport whatever eidos is checking to try to determine if the OS is jailbroken.

Ok, so I will be silly and quote myself: this already happened.

http://theiphonewiki.com/wiki/XCon

Good news and bad: there was little point in doing this because pirates will certainly use this; and it is an inconvenience for legit customers. But at least people paying for the game can play it with this.

That said, I'm looking forward to playing it. I only paid $15 for my copy of DX:HR and I'm happy to ship eidos some more $$. I'd have happily paid $200 for DXHR; it was fabulous.
 
Economic theory can differ; if you're not making money, you're losing money (because the time spent NOT making money could be time spent making money).

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I want to be the one who gets to tell all of those people that they didn't need to root/unlock in order to pirate, it was just a system setting that needed to be enabled!

In the security section "Unknown Sources" - Allow installation of apps from unknown sources.

You don't need to root to run "off the ranch" software.
Now if said software needs protected resources, then root is required.
Anyway, the people I know that are rooted, did so to get functionality that the handset provider didn't offer.

Full backup of the phone. Now available with ADB.
 
Ultimately piracy does equal some amount of lost revenue, however, your 50% and 99% figures asume that those piraters would have purchased it legitimately in the first place? I usually pay for my apps to support the devs, but I will go out of my way to get this one for free..hopefully xcon will add support.

However you want to justify it, that's all it is. If you want this game and aren't a pirate screwing over developers, you would either not buy it at all in protest, or wait until it's supported by xcon, then purchase a legit copy. When a company does something you don't like, you vote with your wallet by not buying their product. Not buying it, but then pirating it because, well, you really want to play their cool game, is a crappy justification.
 
I can't really blame them. If it keeps pirated copies from running, it makes sense that they're doing it.

There will be a patch to fix bypass this check in no time

Maybe, time will tell.
 
The sad truth is that the pirated version will quickly be fixed to work properly but people who purchase the app and have jailbroken will not be able to shoot.
 
The sad truth is that the pirated version will quickly be fixed to work properly but people who purchase the app and have jailbroken will not be able to shoot.

Exactly. They basically shot themselves in the foot here. There are far more negatives than positives to this.
 
Company develops a new game, sells for $9.99. There are ten million potential customers, and due to the quality and marketing of the game, 10% want it on their device. $9.99 doesn't stop anyone from buying.

No pirates = 1 million customers = $10,000,000.
50% pirates = 500,000 customers = $5,000,000.
99% pirates = 10,000 customers = $100,000.

Of course piracy costs money. Even more if the game needs the seller to run servers.

If you work all month, and your boss refuses to pay you, have you lost money?

You live in a different world if you don't think $9.99 is not a figure that will stop quite a number of people from buying the game even if they want it.
 
People who pirate apps are not clientele. They wouldn't have paid for your app in the first place. I don't follow your reasoning.

It's not illegal, but it's also not officially supported. If you choose to do it, you choose to accept the liabilities that come with it. I don't think anyone who buys this app for a jailbroken device deserves a refund any more than someone with a hacked X-Box deserves a refund for buying a game that suddenly won't work. The developer is selling it to you on the assumption that you're running it on the hardware they support. If you hack or jailbreak a device, that's no longer the case and it certainly isn't the developer's fault.

I am not sure where you got this idea. The entire kerfuffle is about JBers who paid for the app, not pirated.

It's not illegal, Apple's support is immaterial. Bolded portion: If you don't want my jailbroken device to play your game that's fine. Just say so up front. Don't take my money and not provide service. That's just stealing, or the same thing a pirate would do. 1. I am doing nothing wrong by jailbreaking. 2. I am supporting your app by paying for it. 3. Unless you are a non-profit, you can't take my money and give nothing in return
 
Ugh... there are legitimate reasons for jailbreaking...

Indeed. However, this is also what people who pirate do, and at last report, that leaves the game company with limited defenses. I'd bet you see more of this. If they can find a finer-grained way to restrict the operation of a pirated piece of software, I'd bet they'll do it.

Maybe, if you're a big gamer, this might go into the "reasons not to jailbreak column.
 
This won't be a popular comment, however I can't say I feel sorry for those who jailbroke yet still want to use legit software from the app store.

All my friends with Android devices went and jailbroke their devices just so they could play pirated software.

I just wonder who they think they are hurting? It just means LESS SALES (no point is buying a game that won't work and I think most value jail-breaking over playing Deus Ex). It seems that game companies have learned absolutely NOTHING from the past 20 years where legit users had to sit and look at dark purple pages and try to read black text on it to play Monkey Island while the pirated versions had no protection on them what-so-ever. By punishing the legit users, they only encourage people to stop buying their products or worse.

Frankly, I suggest a full push to boycott that game period even from non-jailbreak users. I have no interest in supporting gaming companies that are out to make my life miserable if I choose the freedom of jail-breaking a device for a legitimate reason and I certainly do not wish to encourage them to keep doing that crap in the future. No stupid shooter game is worth giving away your freedom of choice. And no jail-breaking means letting Apple decide what you can and cannot put on your own iPad or iPhone. Just wait until they try to do the same with your Mac (and that day IS coming; the Gatekeeper is already waiting at the door).
 
I'm sorry, but our store does not allow blacks here because statistics show that black people shoplift more often.

That's basically what they did here.
 
xCon

xCon can fix this, at least it fixes the DirecTV and Showtime apps that block jailbroken devices.

I've jailbroken my phone since the original came out 6 years ago. I had apps before there was even an app store. And I have never not paid for an app. I just like to be in control of my device instead of Apple telling me what I can and can't do with my device.

By the way, Ursadorable, most of the features you currently enjoy today would not be here if it weren't for jailbreaking developers.
 
Well I haven't jail broken any devices in over a year now and don't plan on doing so again in the near future.

However, I have now decided not to purchase this game at all as this is ridiculous.
 
A small part of the iOS user base jailbreak their device.
A large part of the jailbreak user base pirate software.
 
Is it possible they took this step not to stop pirates, but to stop cheats?

Wow, I never thought of that; like everyone else here, I was thinking about piracy. Do they have IAPs that let you buy points (aka cheat)? Cause you could use LocalIAPStore to cheat infinitely. In addition, there could be other hacks like the one for Words with Friends that lets you play words that aren't real.

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By the way, Ursadorable, most of the features you currently enjoy today would not be here if it weren't for jailbreaking developers.

That's a big assumption to make. What, nobody else would think to have folders to store apps?
 
This is no different than the thousands of video games that had console mod chip detection routines embedded in them. If it detected a mod chip, it won't run.

This is identical. I wouldn't want you on my servers with a non-standard console or iPhone either. Too easy to hack/cheat/exploit.

A jail broken iPhone is no longer a standard iOS device. You broke the curated model, why should you be surprised that some curated apps don't want to play well any longer?

The sad truth is that the pirated version will quickly be fixed to work properly but people who purchase the app and have jailbroken will not be able to shoot.

I truly feel sorry for jail breakers that paid for this game. All three of them have my sympathy.
 
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No, you've just wasted your time.

And yet the boss who won't pay will be fined and forced to pay because it is illegal. And if it's on a large enough scale, they will go to jail. You're walking a very fine semantic line and it's pretty silly. This is a 100% fact: a potential customer who pirates instead of buys a product, costs the maker of the product money, directly or indirectly. Either way, it is money lost that should have gone to the company.
 
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