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This is no different than the thousands of video games that had console mod chip detection routines embedded in them. If it detected a mod chip, it won't run.

This is identical. I wouldn't want you on my servers with a non-standard console or iPhone either. Too easy to hack/cheat/exploit.

A jail broken iPhone is no longer a standard iOS device. You broke the curated model, why should you be surprised that some curated apps don't want to play well any longer?

Bingo! This is exactly right. There are other reasons for modding a console as well, like homebrew, but another major reason is to pirate. Once you jailbreak your iPhone and void its warranty, there is no guarantee of anything working. Software developers make their software for iOS devices, not jailbroken iOS devices. A good chunk of bad reviews on the app store are because of jailbroken software breaking other parts of the OS, which is exactly why the App Store is a curated model to begin with. I understand that this is a dev going out of their way to target jailbroken devices, but it's their call and not at all unfair to people who have chosen to break the rules of the ecosystem they're in. If you jailbreak, you should be well aware that not everything will work as expected even if the vast majority does.

To all the people saying "jailbreaking is legal!!!", your point is? Nobody is saying that jailbreaking is illegal. They're just saying that nearly 100% of pirating/cheating is done on jailbroken devices. I'm not saying this particular method is the best way to stop it, by the way.
 
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As usual they've introduced a crappy measure, the game will be cracked for pirates in no time. Meanwhile people who bought the game who're jailbroken have lost out.

Pirates still win, paying customers lose. It's like movies on discs. Pointless measures that Pirates circumvent and only affect paying customers. As usual they get the better deal.
 
I am not sure where you got this idea. The entire kerfuffle is about JBers who paid for the app, not pirated.

It's not illegal, Apple's support is immaterial. Bolded portion: If you don't want my jailbroken device to play your game that's fine. Just say so up front. Don't take my money and not provide service. That's just stealing, or the same thing a pirate would do. 1. I am doing nothing wrong by jailbreaking. 2. I am supporting your app by paying for it. 3. Unless you are a non-profit, you can't take my money and give nothing in return

I understand that it's about jailbreakers who paid for the app, but when you jailbreak a device, it becomes an unsupported configuration. If the game doesn't work or the dev puts in something that won't work correctly, that's the risk you took in jailbreaking it.

I didn't say jailbreaking was illegal, but no developer in the App Store has any legal obligation to support jailbroken devices. Again, it's like hacking your X-Box and then getting annoyed because some game doesn't work on it anymore or because some game dev won't let their game run in that config. It's not supported.

I'm bolding part of your response too because Apple has made it 100% clear that jailbroken iOS devices are not supported devices. Therefore, there's no reason for a developer to specify that it's not supported on jailbroken devices. That's a given. It's a risk you take and nobody forced you to do so. I just don't see how the developer is to blame or owes anyone a refund.
 
I understand that it's about jailbreakers who paid for the app, but when you jailbreak a device, it becomes an unsupported configuration. If the game doesn't work or the dev puts in something that won't work correctly, that's the risk you took in jailbreaking it.

I didn't say jailbreaking was illegal, but no developer in the App Store has any legal obligation to support jailbroken devices. Again, it's like hacking your X-Box and then getting annoyed because some game doesn't work on it anymore or because some game dev won't let their game run in that config. It's not supported.

I'm bolding part of your response too because Apple has made it 100% clear that jailbroken iOS devices are not supported devices. Therefore, there's no reason for a developer to specify that it's not supported on jailbroken devices. That's a given. It's a risk you take and nobody forced you to do so. I just don't see how the developer is to blame or owes anyone a refund.
Honestly it should say in the games description that it was designed to not work on jb devices. Most developers don't have that intention. Apple doesn't care obviously and won't require it. Whatever, now I just know what developer not to buy games from. I'm sure that's working as intended.

If this game is a multiplayer shooter, I dont believe it is, then I understand this stance in order to stop cheating.
 
As usual they've introduced a crappy measure, the game will be cracked for pirates in no time. Meanwhile people who bought the game who're jailbroken have lost out.

Normally, I'd agree with this. But most modern copy protection is securom type BS that is tacked on by the publisher after the development is finished. This looks like it has been hardcoded into the app itself by the developers.

Perhaps someone with serious developer-level knowledge can enlighten us as to whether defeating this particular anti-piracy measure is as easy as stripping out securom.

Either way, this sucks for jailbreakers who bought the game legally. Doesn't affect me, as I was mostly done with Squeenix after the steaming turd that was FFXIII, and completely done with them after their shameless "All the Bravest" money-grab.

More interesting, or worrying, depending on your perspective... is the thought that this kind of anti-piracy measure could become commonplace in PC and mobile games. Features like a simple FPS trigger-pull become inoperable depending on whether your game fails a security check...
 
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My iPhone 5 and iPad 3 are both jailbroken for SBSettings and Activator tweaks plus a couple of other bits that make the phone much more usable for me. I've got over 650 apps in my iTunes library and every single one is fully paid for or was free in the App Strore when I downloaded it - I have never pirated an app EVER so I don't appreciate being treated like a pirate by app publishers.

From what I've seen so far iOS 7 appears to provide solutions to most of my jailbreak needs so the odds are I'll lose the jailbreak when it is released - and while I was looking at buying this game I am now a lost sale on principal and will remain so.

It's unfair for honest people like you let's not be naive. Out of the millions that jailbreak, the majority do it for free apps. Just ask around other people that jailbroke their iPhone, the reality is harsh. Don't blame the publishers, blame the pirates.
 
Doing this for a pirated version is one matter, implementing this across all versions is in bad form and may result in refunds with enough iTunes Store complaints. As noted, developers have implemented methods in deterring pirating without erroneously crippling paid versions of their applications. As a mutual developer, this is lazy form and will bite them in the ***.

Not all jailbroken devices are done so for pirating purposes (I theme and pay for Cydia app's on my iPad).
 
It works with xcon.

And for the ones who got an iPad 2:

You just need to copy the ipa file(download/buy it on your computer with iTunes)s to your device, download ipa installer, go to options and select force install. Install it. Ad it works.

This is for jail broken devices only.
 
Normally, I'd agree with this. But most modern copy protection is securom type BS that is tacked on by the publisher after the development is finished. This looks like it has been hardcoded into the app itself by the developers.

Perhaps someone with serious developer-level knowledge can enlighten us as to whether defeating this particular anti-piracy measure is as easy as stripping out securom.

Either way, this sucks for jailbreakers who bought the game legally. Doesn't affect me, as I was mostly done with Squeenix after the steaming turd that was FFXIII, and completely done with them after their shameless "All the Bravest" money-grab.

More interesting, or worrying, depending on your perspective... is the thought that this kind of anti-piracy measure could become commonplace in PC and mobile games. Features like a simple FPS trigger-pull become inoperable depending on whether your game fails a security check...

Remember that Game, Develper: Tycoon or something, where you built your own game studio. If you had a cracked version you wouldn't make any money in the game because your games would get pirated. It was a matter of days before the game was cracked so that people could pirate it and play the full game.
 
All my friends with Android devices went and jailbroke their devices just so they could play pirated software.

That's generalizing (and I am pretty sure you are making that up) and it's like me saying all the people i know who use apple products are smug douche bag hipster wannabes.
 
Does xCon from Cydia get you around this restriction like it does with TWC TV and other apps that try to block jailbroken devices?
Yep.

This is a horrendously stupid idea. Not only is it super easy to bypass **** like this on a jailbreak, but it'd probably lead more people to pirate it anyway.
 
All my friends with Android devices went and jailbroke their devices just so they could play pirated software.

Then they're idiots, because you don't need to 'jailbreak' (I assume you mean root) an Android phone to run unsigned software; just check a box in the settings menu.
 
First off I know not all jailbrakers pirate but a lot do. Also the hacking/cheating that goes on with jailbreakers sucks just as much.


Wish more companies would take a stand on pirating/hacking that goes on with jailbreaking. Congrats and I hope many other compaines follow!!!
 
Plus it tells you in the description that its restricted on JB phones, so i don't feel for users that have purchased and now whine its not working.
 
This won't be a popular comment, however I can't say I feel sorry for those who jailbroke yet still want to use legit software from the app store.

All my friends with Android devices went and jailbroke their devices just so they could play pirated software.

So, because your friends are ******* people who pirate games, and had to use jailbreaking as a step to do so, that means it's cool to lump all jailbreakers into that category?

I might understand why your comment might not be very popular.

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Plus it tells you in the description that its restricted on JB phones, so i don't feel for users that have purchased and now whine its not working.

I've only briefly scanned through the comments, but yours is one of the few that I've read that makes sense. If the description does indeed say that, then I'm [more] cool with them doing that.

Do I believe it's a crappy thing to do? Yes. But if they warned about it, then I don't feel as bad for those that have jailbroken. We knew when we jailbroke that there were going to have some setbacks (for instance, iOS 6.1.3 anyone??). I'd be pissed, though, if this was something that *surprised* jailbroken users after having paid $10 for a game (which, tbh, I feel is a really high price for a game in any case).
 
I wonder if this will become more common?? Hmm.

I'm sure it will. There shouldn't be an issue getting your money back.

Ugh... there are legitimate reasons for jailbreaking...

Of course there are legitimate reasons for jailbreaking and I believe that a majority of people don't jailbreak in order to pirate software. Unfortunately, I also believe that a majority of people who jailbreal end up pirating software (i.e. They don't jailbreak to pirate but, once the device is jailbroken, the acquire some pirated software).

I see nothing wrong with jailbreaking but, I also see nothing wrong with the app developers disabling the app in a jailbroken device as long as they let people know.
 
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This won't be a popular comment, however I can't say I feel sorry for those who jailbroke yet still want to use legit software from the app store.

All my friends with Android devices went and jailbroke their devices just so they could play pirated software.

Not sure what your friends think they're doing, but they don't need to "jailbreak" (no such thing on Android, btw) their phones to install pirated software. There's an option in the settings that lets you install apps that aren't downloaded directly from Google's Play Store and that's it.

It works exactly the same way as it does on Mountain Lion, where you can choose to install apps that aren't downloaded from the App Store. This developer is a moron.
 
A portion of people who drive cars do so to use them as a getaway vehicle for a crime - therefore should we ban driving?

There are far more reasons to jailbreak than pirating. In fact, I don't actually know anybody who pirates to steal apps (as a general rule of thumb, somebody who spends £600 on a phone isn't likely to be worried about a few $0.99 apps).

That's really a stupid analogy.

Many jailbreaker's do pirate. Just because you don't know anyone who doesn't really mean anything.

It's the Dev's choice to do this. If you want to play the game, you know what you have to do. If you don't, then keep your money and vote with your wallet.
 
Meh....nice attempt, but there's already a work around fix to make this game work for those of us that choose to support JB'ing a device.

Nice attempt though.
 
this is pure BS i feel like the majority of jailbreakers purchase all their apps, the only time i pirate an app is to test it out and if i like it i always go and pay for it ow ell yet another game i wont be buying
 
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