Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
I went to upgrade to 3gs last week and rep suggested I wait. She said they are scheduled for new iphone on Valentine's Day. Would seem to fit with some of the the updated schedule that is bandied about here.

I don't care what anyone says, AT&T reps of any kind, sales/customer service/so-called "higher ups", are not informed of anything. They are generally the worst people when it comes to any kind of service they are supposed to provide. They have proved time and time again that they know nothing, and you cannot rely on anything they say, ever.
 
The important thing to consider while we're taking in the plethora of rumors is that every recent Apple event has diappointed/compared to rumors, it some drastic way.

Most recently, the iPod touch w/o camera. Higlight of the iPod event, newish Nano w/ video only camera.

Previously the 3GS introduction, and the laundry list of changes that it did not feature.

Previously, the announcement that MMS and tethering exist, but would not be available in the U.S. until further notice.

Previously, and the most significant in recent memory, the iLife 09 event w/ 17" MBP. This event had substantial Tablet and laughable iPhone Nano rumors spreading like wildfire leading up to it. All for iLife!

Be prepared for some major disappointment. I see the possibilities as follows:

extreme negative: no tablet or mention of it, iPhone 4.0 OS preview only, due summer. One More Thing: iPod touch now has a camera.

negative: iPhone 4, device and OS previewed, available March. Again, no tablet.

moderate: iPhone 4, device and OS previewed, available March. One more thing: Tablet announced. Summer release.

positive: iPhone 4, device and OS previewed, available soon. Tablet demoed and SDK released, available March.
 
So, my wishlist for OS 4 is pretty brief: If the phone is factory unlocked, then don't restrict features based on carrier!

Bandwidth usage is about to become more impacted, not less, with the release of so many 3G connected net books which will be dedicated Facebook workstations with all that Flash and stuff.

Apple and AT&T have managed historical wireless account and data usage uptake while building out the network like a madman.

Tethering traditional PC's to a 3G device to gain access to its data stream will only make the problem worse.

I for one have been wishing for internal 3G support in Apple laptops since a year before the iPhone was even released. Obviously Apple knows folks want it, but the only path right now are USB dongles, typically through Verizon and Sprint. Off the AT&T network entirely, so it remains for all those iPhones and Blackberries.

It will not be until LTE starts real deployment that tethering will be widespread. By then you will also have a "family plan" for each of your personal digital devices. PC, phone, picture frame, DVR, VoIP, whatever.

Even the physical wired broadband in this country sucks. The wireless system is even more slammed.

Want to see a real difference? Make POLITICAL noise to your representatives in congress that if they want to spend stimulus money on something immediately useful and totally populist, do it on wireless broadband. Give AT&T and Verizon a $40B tax credit each for LTE and provisioning build out. Give them a low interest 15 year loan for $120B each for additional build-out costs.

When the alleged internet bubble happened in 2000 (which was actually forward awareness of the internet boom that actually, really happened), there was massive build out of fiber. Half of that fiber is still dark in this country.

What we need is catch-up capital investment in BROADBAND WIRELESS, and mesh wifi, and fiber to cell backbone, build out. The folks on this site know first hand we need it NOW, TODAY. So using stimulus money for that, right this second, is not mere make work, but critically needed national infrastructure.

The interest proceeds will offset the tax credit so it is staticly budget neutral. Dynamically the earlier access to true broadband wireless will have massive GDP and tax revenue benefits from the CUSTOMER TAXPAYERS of the infrastructure.

It's not very often the stars align like this, but there you have it.

Rocketman
 
This might provide a possible idea.
That looks very interesting, indeed. And I lol'd when i saw this:
Which makes me wonder what rumor sites will talk about after Steve pulls a tablet out of his pocket on January 27th. As Spencer Fry said on Twitter: We’ll just go back to bitching about [the] Apple TV.
LOL! So true!
Barely, it managed to take up roughly 14 minutes out of the 1 hour and 18 minute keynote.
Yeah, I have a feeling that with this keynote, the refreshed MBP's will be taken care of in the beginning, then iPhone OS 4 intro (it may happen in March like the last two years, though, so I'm not so sure about that one), and then finally, the climax of the show, the tablet introduction.
 
i have a feeling that such posts intel's macbook pro i5 error and this new developer iphone OS 4.0 error is like done on purpose..! like they put people in a huge rumor path and an update pop up from nowhere... hope the upcoming post be more revised before posting....
 
Gee, how about putting the update saying the story is false at the top of the article instead of making people read the whole thing, then find it's all a waste of time.
 
Yeah, I have a feeling that with this keynote, the refreshed MBP's will be taken care of in the beginning, then iPhone OS 4 intro (it may happen in March like the last two years, though, so I'm not so sure about that one), and then finally, the climax of the show, the tablet introduction.

Yeah, I'm betting on tablet only. I think the MBPs will be silently updated like the iMacs.
 
Bandwidth usage is about to become more impacted, not less, with the release of so many 3G connected net books which will be dedicated Facebook workstations with all that Flash and stuff.

(snip)

I have no issues with AT&T phones continuing to not support tethering if the network can't handle it. My complaint is that Apple's restricting tethering even on networks that can support it without any issues whatsoever. My carrier, XT, is perfectly happy with tethering but it's not supported on iPhones because Apple seems to want it limited to Vodafone.
 
Yeah, I'm betting on tablet only. I think the MBPs will be silently updated like the iMacs.

Ever since they adopted this practice, inventory control has been a minimal issue. They can pull the trigger on the exact day supplies are too constrained on the older model to move forward well.

Sometimes they promote the new model after it is released, but even that is not done as much as branding ads.

It is pretty strange for such a large company to operate that way, but it works for them. They own over 80% of the distribution channel, though. There are independent dealers still, but Apple deemphasized them shortly after going online with the store.

Rocketman
 
I don't care if this report was an error. We will see iPhone OS 4.0 SDK Beta and all it has baked in for the iSlate at the event on the 27th, I have very little doubt! It is only logical!
 
Man, you guys. I called it way early in this thread-- it was a typo. Its kinda amazing how much people will assume based on a piece of unverified information.

We don't even know that there will BE an event in late january!

Or did I miss the news that Apple sent out invites to the press?

Have you ever known Apple to do a Special Event without sending out invites at least 2 weeks beforehand?

And yet, here we are, around 10 days ahead and no conformation.... just some company marked off a couple days at a convention center. Hell that appointment could have been pencilled in a year ago and not taken off of the calendar because nobody else needed the space.
 
Ever since they adopted this practice, inventory control has been a minimal issue. They can pull the trigger on the exact day supplies are too constrained on the older model to move forward well.

Sometimes they promote the new model after it is released, but even that is not done as much as branding ads.

It is pretty strange for such a large company to operate that way, but it works for them. They own over 80% of the distribution channel, though. There are independent dealers still, but Apple deemphasized them shortly after going online with the store.

Rocketman
Do you remember the "Spotlight Turns To NoteBooks" event (October 2008) and WWDC 2009? I think it's safe to say that Apple still updates computers at the events as well as silent updates. It's been like that for a while now
 
Do you remember the "Spotlight Turns To NoteBooks" event (October 2008) and WWDC 2009? I think it's safe to say that Apple still updates computers at the events as well as silent updates. It's been like that for a while now

It's a two way street. They TRY to time inventory to release dates. It determines the time to release from the announcement. Sometimes "now", sometimes "in 2 weeks", sometimes "in a month" but they actually release a bit early. If anything, these days they let supplies run "dry" for 2 weeks before release to account for return issues.

UPOD.

Rocketman
 
I suspect the original press release was correct, but they got spanked by Apple and tried to cover it up as a mistake. I've recently seen the following server log entries for my app. I'd be tempted to think someone was having fun and spoofing their device info, except that if do a whois on those IP addresses they're all registered to Apple.

Code:
17.244.105.140	iPhone OS	4.0	iPod touch	2010-01-14 18:44:08
17.244.105.140	iPhone OS	4.0	iPod touch	2010-01-14 14:31:10
17.244.105.140	iPhone OS	4.0	iPod touch	2010-01-14 14:27:30
17.244.105.140	iPhone OS	4.0	iPod touch	2010-01-14 14:27:08
17.244.105.140	iPhone OS	4.0	iPod touch	2010-01-14 14:24:01
17.244.105.140	iPhone OS	4.0	iPod touch	2010-01-14 14:14:11
17.244.105.140	iPhone OS	4.0	iPod touch	2010-01-14 14:09:55
17.244.105.140	iPhone OS	4.0	iPod touch	2010-01-14 14:08:30
17.244.105.140	iPhone OS	4.0	iPod touch	2010-01-14 14:05:36

And take a gander at these. What's this? The tablet?

Code:
17.244.104.168	iPhone OS	3.2	iProd	2010-01-14 15:48:56
17.244.104.168	iPhone OS	3.2	iProd	2010-01-14 14:55:09
17.244.104.168	iPhone OS	3.2	iProd	2010-01-14 14:42:11
17.244.107.115	iPhone OS	3.2	iProd	2010-01-04 14:13:56
17.244.107.25	iPhone OS	3.2	iProd	2010-01-07 11:35:54
17.244.107.25	iPhone OS	3.2	iProd	2010-01-07 11:35:25
 
I suspect the original press release was correct, but they got spanked by Apple and tried to cover it up as a mistake. I've recently seen the following server log entries for my app. I'd be tempted to think someone was having fun and spoofing their device info, except that if do a whois on those IP addresses they're all registered to Apple.

Code:
17.244.105.140    iPhone OS    4.0    iPod touch    2010-01-14 18:44:08
17.244.105.140    iPhone OS    4.0    iPod touch    2010-01-14 14:31:10
17.244.105.140    iPhone OS    4.0    iPod touch    2010-01-14 14:27:30
17.244.105.140    iPhone OS    4.0    iPod touch    2010-01-14 14:27:08
17.244.105.140    iPhone OS    4.0    iPod touch    2010-01-14 14:24:01
17.244.105.140    iPhone OS    4.0    iPod touch    2010-01-14 14:14:11
17.244.105.140    iPhone OS    4.0    iPod touch    2010-01-14 14:09:55
17.244.105.140    iPhone OS    4.0    iPod touch    2010-01-14 14:08:30
17.244.105.140    iPhone OS    4.0    iPod touch    2010-01-14 14:05:36
And take a gander at these. What's this? The tablet?

Code:
17.244.104.168    iPhone OS    3.2    iProd    2010-01-14 15:48:56
17.244.104.168    iPhone OS    3.2    iProd    2010-01-14 14:55:09
17.244.104.168    iPhone OS    3.2    iProd    2010-01-14 14:42:11
17.244.107.115    iPhone OS    3.2    iProd    2010-01-04 14:13:56
17.244.107.25    iPhone OS    3.2    iProd    2010-01-07 11:35:54
17.244.107.25    iPhone OS    3.2    iProd    2010-01-07 11:35:25

Yes Mr. Zorg, I suspect the same thing. According to CNET they literally said their application had been updated for the new iPhone OS 4.0 software. Updating your application to version 4.0 or updating it for the new 4.0 software are two very different things.

Also, when I searched on Twitter for iPhone OS 4.0 I found a recent tweet with a picture of the Apple Developer Connection website displaying iPhone OS 4.0 SDK beta which read:

"http://twitpic.com/y9ddc -First ever screenshot of iPhone 4.0 OS from iPhone SDK (Please retweet)"

I attached the screen shot to this reply.
 

Attachments

  • 57544176.png
    57544176.png
    61.2 KB · Views: 108
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 3_1_2 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/528.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile/7D11 Safari/528.16)

IT-Pro said:
I suspect the original press release was correct, but they got spanked by Apple and tried to cover it up as a mistake. I've recently seen the following server log entries for my app. I'd be tempted to think someone was having fun and spoofing their device info, except that if do a whois on those IP addresses they're all registered to Apple.

Code:
17.244.105.140    iPhone OS    4.0    iPod touch    2010-01-14 18:44:08
17.244.105.140    iPhone OS    4.0    iPod touch    2010-01-14 14:31:10
17.244.105.140    iPhone OS    4.0    iPod touch    2010-01-14 14:27:30
17.244.105.140    iPhone OS    4.0    iPod touch    2010-01-14 14:27:08
17.244.105.140    iPhone OS    4.0    iPod touch    2010-01-14 14:24:01
17.244.105.140    iPhone OS    4.0    iPod touch    2010-01-14 14:14:11
17.244.105.140    iPhone OS    4.0    iPod touch    2010-01-14 14:09:55
17.244.105.140    iPhone OS    4.0    iPod touch    2010-01-14 14:08:30
17.244.105.140    iPhone OS    4.0    iPod touch    2010-01-14 14:05:36
And take a gander at these. What's this? The tablet?

Code:
17.244.104.168    iPhone OS    3.2    iProd    2010-01-14 15:48:56
17.244.104.168    iPhone OS    3.2    iProd    2010-01-14 14:55:09
17.244.104.168    iPhone OS    3.2    iProd    2010-01-14 14:42:11
17.244.107.115    iPhone OS    3.2    iProd    2010-01-04 14:13:56
17.244.107.25    iPhone OS    3.2    iProd    2010-01-07 11:35:54
17.244.107.25    iPhone OS    3.2    iProd    2010-01-07 11:35:25

Yes Mr. Zorg, I suspect the same thing. According to CNET they literally said their application had been updated for the new iPhone OS 4.0 software. Updating your application to version 4.0 or updating it for the new 4.0 software are two very different things.

Also, when I searched on Twitter for iPhone OS 4.0 I found a recent tweet with a picture of the Apple Developer Connection website displaying iPhone OS 4.0 SDK beta which read:

"http://twitpic.com/y9ddc -First ever screenshot of iPhone 4.0 OS from iPhone SDK (Please retweet)"

I attached the screen shot to this reply.

Faked.
 
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 3_1_2 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/528.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile/7D11 Safari/528.16)
Faked.
The picture may have been faked, but Mr. Zorg's log entries aren't. Unless he faked them himself, which he probably didn't.

When a select group of iPhone developers indeed received the new iPhone OS, including a strict confidentiality agreement, they may have sent a screen shot anonymously to some people.
 
And take a gander at these. What's this? The tablet?

Code:
17.244.104.168	iPhone OS	3.2	iProd	2010-01-14 15:48:56
17.244.104.168	iPhone OS	3.2	iProd	2010-01-14 14:55:09
17.244.104.168	iPhone OS	3.2	iProd	2010-01-14 14:42:11
17.244.107.115	iPhone OS	3.2	iProd	2010-01-04 14:13:56
17.244.107.25	iPhone OS	3.2	iProd	2010-01-07 11:35:54
17.244.107.25	iPhone OS	3.2	iProd	2010-01-07 11:35:25

Your logging system is so advanced that it sorts entries purely according to the time of day, not taking into account the actual dates... amazing.
 
Your logging system is so advanced that it sorts entries purely according to the time of day, not taking into account the actual dates... amazing.
I manually sorted them by IP so I could find IP addresses
comping from Apple, then sorted by version number. Otherwise I'd never find such entries in the sea of log entries. The times just happened to fall the way they did on their own. I swear to you these are not faked by me (that's the best I can promise).

If you ask nicely, I can now grep the raw apache logs and post those. But they're just text files too, easily faked so I'm not sure what that would prove.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.