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I would say, Apple is being too greedy here and wants % of overall car sales, that’s why there is no Carplay, good that Tesla don’t pull the pants down for Apple. Once Microsoft said Linux is like cancer, but looks like this fits more to Apple.
Someone already said above Apple doesn't charge companies for CarPlay...
 
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Is the next request going to be CarPlay integration with Autopilot (specifically Navigate on Highways and City Streets)?
 
Exactly. And why aren't Tesla owners shouting on the rooftops about this? I will never buy a car without CarPlay. Nope, not going back.
One of the many difference between Tesla and all other car companies is that Teslas have working OTA (over the air) software upgrades. Got a software problem on your Ford or GM or BMW or Ferrari? You have to go to your dealer to get it fixed, assuming a fix exists. Once you've owned a Tesla there is zero chance of ever going back to another car that does not have the equivalent of Tesla's OTA, screens or native software. There are other reasons like the amazing driving experience and its Supercharger network.

While parts of CarPlay, like better Apple Music integration and Apple Maps are very useful they are far from some end of the world deal breaker. I strictly use Apple Music or Overcast on our Tesla, but ultimately it is a better user experience than using the same two apps over our HomePods: Siri works just as well on a Tesla, but the ability to change the volume or skip songs or podcast commercials with the steering wheels left scroll pad is perfect compared to doing the same with your HomePods
 
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Exactly. And why aren't Tesla owners shouting on the rooftops about this? I will never buy a car without CarPlay. Nope, not going back.
It's not as big of a deal as you may think, at least for me it wasn't. I loved CarPlay in my VW, but Teslas own SW also has navigation, Spotify and stuff. So, mostly bases covered. Tesla also has Netflix which has saved my ass a couple times waiting with a toddler for something.
 
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You're right, it's around $45K USD for a barebone Model 3. But that's hardly the point. And not to put too fine a point on it, most Tesla models are much more expensive and they average out to be around 77K (3, S, Y, and X).

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Yes, there are much more expensive models than the Model 3 but I believe the average transaction price for new Teslas in the U.S. last year was around $55K as the vast majority of Teslas sold in 2021 were from the cheaper Model 3 and Model Y lines.

However, your comment specifically said the "cheapest model cost $60K" which is incorrect. The cheapest model right now is $46,190 MSRP. That's all I was trying to point out.
 
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Yes, there are much more expensive models than the Model 3 but I believe the average transaction price for new Teslas in the U.S. last year was around $55K as the vast majority of Teslas sold in 2021 were from the cheaper Model 3 and Model Y lines.

However, your comment specifically said the "cheapest model cost $60K" which is incorrect. The cheapest model right now is $46,190 MSRP. That's all I was trying to point out.
I didn't realize my number was in a different currency, i.e. Canadian, until you pointed out. Technically I wasn't wrong because they use dollars in Canada too. But I do realize I should've used USD.

The point is it's not a cheap car. A base model Model 3 is comparable to a Mercedes-Benz C and base model Model Y Mercedes-Benz GLE. The bar should've been higher than "fine"..."majority of the time".

But thank you for clearing up the confusion that others might be having with my number.
 
I am frankly astounded CarPlay hasn’t nor is available on Tesla.. In 2022!! When it’s been around since like what 2016? They are literally the face and brand for this type of stuff. Blatant and disgusting. Unimpressed ??
 
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I am frankly astounded CarPlay hasn’t nor is available on Tesla.. In 2022!! When it’s been around since like what 2016? They are literally the face and brand for this type of stuff. Blatant and disgusting. Unimpressed ??
As of right now they have no incentive to roll out CarPlay.
 
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Apple Maps will NEVER happen in a Tesla. Telsa has its own mapping suite that ingests billions of miles of vision/sensor data to train its neural net towards generalized autonomy - which is the opposite of Apple’s more basic geo-fenced solution. You have no idea what you’re talking about.
Hi bud,

I do know what I am talking about. Give the customer the choice of what maps to use. They can decide if they want Tesla's map or Apple or Google or Waze for any particular trip. Sorry that using another map doesn't allow Tesla to harvest data for it's vapor hardware lol.
 
Hi bud,

I do know what I am talking about. Give the customer the choice of what maps to use. They can decide if they want Tesla's map or Apple or Google or Waze for any particular trip. Sorry that using another map doesn't allow Tesla to harvest data for it's vapor hardware lol.
Where is the incentive for Tesla to integrate other mapping options knowing that those other options would then have to work with NoA?
 
Tesla is different from all the other carmakers, and part of that was pioneering this kind of advanced in-car tech before CarPlay even existed. It makes sense. And now we learn that Tesla is making their own phone, so this makes even more sense.

For the record, I hate both systems. It's no wonder Tesla drivers always act like they're distracted on the road, probably looking down at touchscreen climate controls. And I cannot believe CarPlay is an Apple product when it behaves in such unintuitive and broken ways; all that tech just to be actually worse than an aux input.

There is not a single shred of reliable info I can find on a “Tesla phone”. Just worthless rumors from my search.
 
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One of the many difference between Tesla and all other car companies is that Teslas have working OTA (over the air) software upgrades. Got a software problem on your Ford or GM or BMW or Ferrari? You have to go to your dealer to get it fixed, assuming a fix exists.

Not necessarily. Several automakers have varying degrees of OTA updates available. GM was doing OTA updates as far back as 2009, even before Tesla.

 
I would say, Apple is being too greedy here and wants % of overall car sales, that’s why there is no Carplay, good that Tesla don’t pull the pants down for Apple. Once Microsoft said Linux is like cancer, but looks like this fits more to Apple.
In what way is Apple being greedy in relation to CarPlay? There are no charges or licensing costs for CarPlay.
 
As opposed to humans by themselves who tend to run into stuff about 12x more often than Autopilot+driver?
I don't think there is nearly enough data to support that claim. For one, the drivers with access to the FSD beta aren't representative of the overall driving population. And when I had the beta I turned off FSD whenever I felt there was a somewhat difficult situation coming up (because I knew from experience that the car likely wouldn't handle it well), and I bet I'm not the only one. So FSD is probably disproportionally used in easy situations where accidents don't happen often anyway.
 
About the only features I've found to enjoy with CarPlay from my very limited use in a rental car vs a Tesla is the fact that once I'm connected to CarPlay, the gps instructions automatically get pulled from my phone. Although the Tesla navigation component makes it just as easy to use their system without requiring my phone so it's kind of a wash. The texting system is better in CarPlay and there is a slight delay when using Siri from my phone through the teslas mic/system. It is nice you can use apps from your phone on the screen of the car in CarPlay.

Apple Music isn't natively supported on Tesla, so you'd have to go through the phone. They have a native app of Spotify which is great.

The navigation experience on a Tesla is significantly better than the few CarPlay vehicles I've used. It was kind of the equivalent of going from a palm pilot to an iPhone. Pinch to zoom in the maps is responsive, moving around in the map is fast, and interacting is seamless. The CarPlay models I used all required me to hit the magnifying glass icon to zoom in and out and that was on a 2021 car. It was a pretty terrible experience honestly and the screen size in Tesla makes it extremely more useful when actually navigating.

As someone that hasn't used CarPlay, what are the dealbreakers for why you couldn't leave?
 
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Customer desire?
It seems like more folk have tweeted about wanting waypoints and blind spot camera during turn signal than have tweeted about CarPlay. ??‍♂️

Be that as it may. I would rather they get NoA working with their own mapping solution than to try to integrate incomplete third party solutions. Because I am 100% sure that will be the complaint when/if they add CarPlay or Android Auto.
 
I love my Tesla. The integrated maps in the Tesla have great details about supercharger locations, usage, etc. How about a trade off? Apple integrates supercharger info into its Maps app and Tesla agrees to allow CarPlay.

In the meantime, I'd settle of an Apple Music option on the Tesla UI.
apple maps already has electric car charger locations. Did they omit tesla super chargers (i wouldnt know because i dont have an electric car)?
 
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