I would love to own a Tesla 3 at some point. Are you able to stream a playlist from my iPhone to play over the car’s speakers? That’s basically all I deed.
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Really. So you bought FSD? Why aren't you using the Beta? Or are you just going by YouTube videos and tweets? I'd love to know your opinion on the internal V11 preview. Because your opinion is inconsistent with everything that's developing at Tesla. Regarding apps, nobody said the app store was launched yet. Re-read to understand. And nobody said Tesla is interested in an IOS-sized app store. That would be stupid. Regarding Auto Park, are you not using it daily? Because it works perfectly. Do you not Auto Summon your (supposed) Tesla every night because your driveway is too narrow? And what's your expertise regarding AI/general autonomy to proclaim that FSD is a "pipe dream"? Cite evidence from your rigorous testing and deep experience to justify your opinion. What's your opinion on 10-bit photon collection? What do you think of switching from raster to vector 3D space? Tell me your opinion after seeing Dojo perform internally. Tell me what you think about single-stack v11 previews deployed to select testers. Explain how exponential growth won't happen after Dojo goes live with 100K FSD units? Please show references/access/experience to justify your opinion. Or are you just another dumb**** forum troll?
Maybe you should read the thread before responding.
How is talking to you any different from talking to people making these tweets? And what exactly are you trying to accomplish by putting quotes around those two words? Is that supposed to make you special?
Yes. And Hey Siri works to play songs from iPhone to Tesla's surround system. Another cool feature is if you have directions in Apple Maps, you can share with one press to Tesla's Nav. iOS integration is quite good. Again, CarPlay makes no sense in a Tesla.
Slight difference between talking to someone who actively uses FSD to discuss current progress, than cherry-pick a dubious and outdated tweet to support a bias. So yeah, definitely in 'quotes'.
Solution: Don't buy a Tesla. Buy a Lucid, VW, Rivian, Ford F150 Lightning, Porsche Taycan, etc.
The words amongst people who work in AI algorithms are: self-driving (level 5) isn't ready and won't be ready "for a while." I suspect this is one reason Apple isn't rushing to come out with their own car. Tesla better think twice before releasing their FSD just to prove a point. Pattern recognition is extremely difficult to do consistently. You compound that with changing road and weather conditions. And the different car models on top of that.
Agreed. We need as many different EV's to be successful as possible. Every Tesla made is already sold, and all are backordered for months (and some years). Of course Tesla will dominate the entire auto industry by decade's end, but it can't make every car, nor should it. Please seriously consider startups like Lucid/Rivian/etc instead of Tesla. Because they're in a bit of trouble (Lucid hopes to sell as many cars in 8 years as Tesla sold last year OMG). Sadly all legacy car companies (save maybe VW) will likely be gone by that time.
As opposed to humans by themselves who tend to run into stuff about 12x more often than Autopilot+driver?
Sounds like the driver assist (yeah I know what FSD stands for but it’s not really that…) is actually, I dunno, useful?
I didn’t say it’s ready for public release; it isn’t. But I’m happy to help participate and train it so one day, it will be. I can’t take a nap with it, but I also can’t imagine owning a car without it now, even in its current form.
Apologies if I intruded on some private conversation, but those are better suited in a private message than a forum.
I concur. Thankfully Tesla will not deploy FSD gold master to the public until it's proven, through robust vetted data, that it's safer than a human driver. And likely well beyond that - to have superhuman driving capability (millisecond reflexes, best-case scenario accident mitigation, hyper vision in ultra low light & overexposed settings, etc)
It's not a private conversation. That's really the point. If you want to comment, feel free. But don't assume the reply was addressed to you and don't take it personally. We're all just talking.
You're really missing the point. When a human driver commits an error and causes an accident, it's an individual act and only that person is responsible. When a car on autopilot commits an error and causes an accident, it is assumed to be a software issue, hence systemic and if that's the case, then Tesla would be liable.
I'm not knocking FSD or wishing Tesla ill. I'm saying they should be cautious.
As for CarPlay, I'm saying they should open up their OS. And a follow-up to that is, as a tech company doing software, they will have a hard time competing against Apple and Google.
Musk would be foolish to keep their software development in-house. It's like Steve Jobs trying to keep iOS closed. It won't work. There are really two paths to this: Either Tesla gets outcompete but remains a niche/boutique brand and Elon gets to keep their software development in-house or they open up their OS and have a chance of becoming the next Toyota. There is no path to becoming a dominant brand and having a closed car OS.
And if they do open up their OS, there is no reason for them not to allow CarPlay as an option. That's really the gist of what I'm trying to say.
Doesn’t Tesla just use Google Maps with some extra info for charging stations?
It’s not that simple. Telsa uses proprietary mapping culled from billions of miles of data from its million+ Autopilot equipped cars. It also uses Mapbox and Valhalla data, plus Google Maps for its overlay. This is why it’s absurd to think it would ever use Apple’s Maps, which is opaque, and then give all that driving data to Apple. Hence CarPlay making no sense.
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That makes sense, thanks. I just didn’t think that Tesla brought their own maps app completely independently, but mixing it all that way is super interesting.
Two control freak companies butting heads.
It was ment as an illustration of how bad Tesla UI is, I know CarPlay will not solve this, but at least it would could make up for some of the things it can do.
Because it doesn't really need it in all honesty. It'd be nice to have but 40,000km in, I've not once needed it.
Also, not a fanboy of Tesla, my next EV will hopefully be a Rivian (also without carplay, doh!)
Tesla is different from all the other carmakers, and part of that was pioneering this kind of advanced in-car tech before CarPlay even existed. It makes sense. And now we learn that Tesla is making their own phone, so this makes even more sense.
For the record, I hate both systems. It's no wonder Tesla drivers always act like they're distracted on the road, probably looking down at touchscreen climate controls. And I cannot believe CarPlay is an Apple product when it behaves in such unintuitive and broken ways; all that tech just to be actually worse than an aux input.
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