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Exactly. And why aren't Tesla owners shouting on the rooftops about this? I will never buy a car without CarPlay. Nope, not going back.
It’s not as nessesary when the navigation system is good, the built in Spotify support is good, and I can share an address from Google Maps or Apple Maps on my phone to the car in the press of a button.
 
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CarPlay is more than maps. It's okay for you to have an opinion on CarPlay, which you seem to have no experience with, but it's not okay for others to have an opinion on Tesla's infotainment system that you claim they've no experience with. But, okay.

CarPlay doesn't have to replace Tesla's navigation system. Carmakers actually are allowed to make their own apps in CarPlay and they do. You don't know because you don't use CarPlay. But, okay.
Except that I do have experience with both, owned several vehicles with CarPlay, and have since replaced them all with Teslas.

That should tell you which I prefer.

CarPlay is designed to solve a problem Tesla doesn't have ... namely, that legacy automakers are NOT software companies. They're assemblers - they buy units from third parties and make them work together.

CarPlay brings a unified interface to an in-car display. That's not a bad thing in theory. In practice, I found CarPlay clunky and limiting. In a big way.

My biggest problem with CarPlay is its limitations on lists and scrolling. That's just ridiculous - not allowing me to see my own data is ridiculous.

Specifically, things like lists of albums, or Sirius XM stations, or even lists of nearby restaurants. All of that is limited by CarPlay and makes it unusable.

But yes, I have plenty of experience with both CarPlay and Tesla's interface. There's *plenty* not to like about Tesla's, but I'll still take it 20 out of 10 times over CarPlay.
 
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I've read tweets and seen videos of their FSD Beta on the road. It's not safe at all. He isn't the one bullsh*ting.
Have you ever had any kind of automobile accident? I have.

If so, you (and I) are both inherently less safe than FSD Beta. It's had exactly none in millions upon millions of driven miles. I, unfortunately, can't say the same about myself.

Is FSD Beta perfect? No. But I'm not going to let perfect be the enemy of good, either. I'm happy to contribute to what it's learning so it can improve.

PS - I don't need to read tweets or watch videos. I use it every single day.
 
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I love Apple integration. That being said, my Tesla benefits far outweigh any Apple benefits. I'm reducing air pollution and GHG by driving my Tesla instead of an Infiniti. Is my iPhone doing that? I'll gladly listien to Slacker instead of Apple Music for that benefit. But if Apple Music will step up and integrate into my Tesla OS I will switch to Apple. Are you listening Apple?
 
Have you ever had any kind of automobile accident? I have.

If so, you (and I) are both inherently less safe than FSD Beta. It's had exactly none in millions upon millions of driven miles. I, unfortunately, can't say the same about myself.

Is FSD Beta perfect? No. But I'm not going to let perfect be the enemy of good, either. I'm happy to contribute to what it's learning so it can improve.

PS - I don't need to read tweets or watch videos. I use it every single day.
Me too. A mi tambien. I use FSD Beta everyday. It's safer then not using it.
 
I love Apple integration. That being said, my Tesla benefits far outweigh any Apple benefits. I'm reducing air pollution and GHG by driving my Tesla instead of an Infiniti. Is my iPhone doing that? I'll gladly listien to Slacker instead of Apple Music for that benefit. But if Apple Music will step up and integrate into my Tesla OS I will switch to Apple. Are you listening Apple?
I hate to break it to you but ummm… you arent getting rid of air pollution. You are just shifting the location of the air pollution. *scratches head* Elon just used “air pollution“ as a way to sell more cars. The climate impact of a Tesla is roughly the same as any gas vehicle. ??
 
I enjoyed using CarPlay in my previous car, where it would take over the whole 8-inch touchscreen as a fully-unified expierence.

What I don’t love is all these newer cars with larger screens putting CarPlay in a smaller pop-up window. It just looks hideous and out of place and I’m sure Apple is not happy about it (they still prefer to advertise older CarPlay setups on their site). CarPlay would not look or work well in a Tesla, just as it doesn’t in Ford’s vertical Sync 4 screens or Chrysler’s UConnect.
 
Except that I do have experience with both, owned several vehicles with CarPlay, and have since replaced them all with Teslas.

That should tell you which I prefer.

CarPlay is designed to solve a problem Tesla doesn't have ... namely, that legacy automakers are NOT software companies. They're assemblers - they buy units from third parties and make them work together.

CarPlay brings a unified interface to an in-car display. That's not a bad thing in theory. In practice, I found CarPlay clunky and limiting. In a big way.

My biggest problem with CarPlay is its limitations on lists and scrolling. That's just ridiculous - not allowing me to see my own data is ridiculous.

Specifically, things like lists of albums, or Sirius XM stations, or even lists of nearby restaurants. All of that is limited by CarPlay and makes it unusable.

But yes, I have plenty of experience with both CarPlay and Tesla's interface. There's *plenty* not to like about Tesla's, but I'll still take it 20 out of 10 times over CarPlay.
are you @pukifloyd? I swear I replied to a different person than you.
 
Have you ever had any kind of automobile accident? I have.

If so, you (and I) are both inherently less safe than FSD Beta. It's had exactly none in millions upon millions of driven miles. I, unfortunately, can't say the same about myself.

Is FSD Beta perfect? No. But I'm not going to let perfect be the enemy of good, either. I'm happy to contribute to what it's learning so it can improve.

PS - I don't need to read tweets or watch videos. I use it every single day.
FSD with a driver ready to take control at any minute in case anything goes wrong. If you call that a perfect record, I don't know what to tell you. You do know what FSD stands for?

If you have to have a human being there to ensure nothing goes wrong, it's not FSD. And wouldn't you be extra careful when you know you're test-driving something with the word Beta in its name?

You're very naïve to believe just because a Beta program hasn't yielded any major accidents that it's safe to be released to the wild.

And good for you for not having to read tweets or watch videos. Where did you come from? I really don't remember replying to you ever.
 
I got Apple Carplay working on my Studebaker when I hacked a 7" Philco TV and mounted it on my dash.

What's taking Tesla so long?
 
What about giving the customer the choice to chose the map they want to use on any given trip?
Apple Maps will NEVER happen in a Tesla. Telsa has its own mapping suite that ingests billions of miles of vision/sensor data to train its neural net towards generalized autonomy - which is the opposite of Apple’s more basic geo-fenced solution. You have no idea what you’re talking about.
 
I hate to break it to you but ummm… you arent getting rid of air pollution. You are just shifting the location of the air pollution. *scratches head* Elon just used “air pollution“ as a way to sell more cars. The climate impact of a Tesla is roughly the same as any gas vehicle. ??
You’ve been reading some oil company talking points. EVs are efficient enough that, even if they were charging from a grid that was 100% coal powered, the CO2 emissions would be about that of a 50mpg gas vehicle. Most grids are a mix of power sources and most put out much less CO2 than coal. As more renewables are added to the grid, your vehicle’s emissions are further reduced.
 
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I enjoyed using CarPlay in my previous car, where it would take over the whole 8-inch touchscreen as a fully-unified expierence.

What I don’t love is all these newer cars with larger screens putting CarPlay in a smaller pop-up window. It just looks hideous and out of place and I’m sure Apple is not happy about it (they still prefer to advertise older CarPlay setups on their site). CarPlay would not look or work well in a Tesla, just as it doesn’t in Ford’s vertical Sync 4 screens or Chrysler’s UConnect.
I like and use CarPlay but don’t expect it to handle all of the displays and controls on a modern car. If the car screen is large enough to display CarPlay alongside other built-in controls, that is just a bonus. Not “hideous” at all.
 
We bought a Tesla years ago and now exclusively own Tesla's. CarPlay will not change my mind but it sure would be nice to have. They don't call the Model S and X Plaid alien technology for nothing. Oh, and I was lucky enough to get FSD Beta. It still needs work but it's the most amazing experience having the car drive you around 99% of the time. Give it 6 more months and they should have progressed enough to release it to everyone.

Except that I do have experience with both, owned several vehicles with CarPlay, and have since replaced them all with Teslas.

That should tell you which I prefer.

CarPlay is designed to solve a problem Tesla doesn't have ... namely, that legacy automakers are NOT software companies. They're assemblers - they buy units from third parties and make them work together.

CarPlay brings a unified interface to an in-car display. That's not a bad thing in theory. In practice, I found CarPlay clunky and limiting. In a big way.

My biggest problem with CarPlay is its limitations on lists and scrolling. That's just ridiculous - not allowing me to see my own data is ridiculous.

Specifically, things like lists of albums, or Sirius XM stations, or even lists of nearby restaurants. All of that is limited by CarPlay and makes it unusable.

But yes, I have plenty of experience with both CarPlay and Tesla's interface. There's *plenty* not to like about Tesla's, but I'll still take it 20 out of 10 times over CarPlay.
 
I've read tweets and seen videos of their FSD Beta on the road. It's not safe at all. He isn't the one bullsh*ting.
I experienced this kind of thing many times when I had the FSD Beta. One time it wanted to steer directly into a giant bridge pillar under on overpass that the cameras somehow missed. It also sometimes drives way too aggressively, and other times it is way too hesitant. It feels like a half-blind teenager is at the wheel. I found monitoring the car much more stressful than just driving myself. In contrast, the regular Autopilot (basically a fancy version of lane centering and adaptive cruise control that works very well on freeways and in stop-and-go traffic) is a real stress relief.
 
When will that mythological app store be released? If useful apps (such as audiobooks, better podcast apps, Plugshare etc.) were available for Tesla's system, there would be less complaints. But all we get seem to be useless games (I won't even mention things like the fart app).
Maybe own a Tesla before making clueless straw man comments. Tesla just released its app launcher as a first step towards its app store. Current apps include Sentry Mode (real-time camera security), Dashcam, Blind Spot Camera window, Dog Mode (pet safety), Efficiency Graph, smart features incl. automatic Supercharger trip planning, EV charger search (better than Plugshare), AI based Cabin/window/seat climate control, Autopilot, AI parking, auto summon, Full Self Driving Beta (which I’m a tester) and yes, entertainment apps that often take advantage of the large center screen like ‘Caraoke’, Spotify, Tidal, Netflix, YouTube, Hulu, Twitch, TikTok, Arcade games (incl AAA titles on newer vehicles), ‘Lightshow”, custom horn sounds, and that fart app from a couple years ago that people like you are so obsessed about.
 
Sad. I'm not just saying this out of spite, but I will never own a Tesla until they have wireless carplay. IN fact, I will never own another vehicle without wireless carplay.
 
Maybe own a Tesla before making clueless straw man comments.
I have owned a Tesla since 2017. I was hoodwinked by their faked videos showing a truly self-driving (and self-parking) Tesla and dumb enough to spend the money on the FSD package. After years of promises by Musk of autonomous cross-country drives, self-parking ("the car finds you anywhere in a parking lot, really!") and robo taxis, FSD is still a pipe dream and nowhere near to what was promised. I'm very surprised that there aren't major class action lawsuits yet.
Tesla just released its app launcher as a first step towards its app store.
LOL. Moving the icons around in the UI doesn't make an app store, and certainly not a vibrant developer ecosystem as it exists for the major mobile platforms. No car will ever have the large selection of apps available for iOS or Android, unless they adopt one of those operating systems (which is incidentally what e.g. Volvo is doing).
 
I love my Tesla. The integrated maps in the Tesla have great details about supercharger locations, usage, etc. How about a trade off? Apple integrates supercharger info into its Maps app and Tesla agrees to allow CarPlay.

In the meantime, I'd settle of an Apple Music option on the Tesla UI.

Here’s what I did
  1. Get a Cellular iPad Mini 6
  2. Mount it using Proclip’s Holder and Dash Mount
  3. Enjoy full fledged iOS (and Google Offline Maps) and Tesla’s integrated supercharger locations
This setup has worked amazingly well for me - you also get Apple Music as well, and the full selection of the iOS ecosystem. Since it’s a cellular iPad, I don’t bother to pay for the “premium connectivity option” - I just tether to my iPad mini as needed.
 
Musk is being a child because of the rumors that Apple chose not to buy Tesla when it supposedly was offered to them years ago. Besides, Apple, if they do produce a vehicle themselves will be directly competing with Tesla.
Maybe… Apple may or may not release a car. If they do I don’t expect it will be for sale, but will be available in inner cities - a point to point driverless vehicle as a service.
 
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