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iPhone XR Did the iPhone XR flop? [MERGED]
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0.03 of an inch (0.6mm) thicker than the xs/xs max....
I'll take that slightly extra thickness for the amazing battery life.
So will most reviewers I've read
Inferiority, what are you talking about? The whole range is down on expectations according to reports. If you comment was correct then why is the iPhone 8 experiencing a sales boost in many places?
I dont read threads like this but the last few trips to the apple store (in a comp repair the last few weeks), the XR table is 100% empty. The XS tables are surrounded by people. Asked the sales lady how the Xr has been and she said not as good as they hoped for.
Anecdotally, Opposite here, I was at my carrier store last week before Black Friday and a plethora of customers were all upgrading to the XR, I was working with the store manager on my iPhone plan, and he mentioned the XR was easily outnumbering the XS in units sold in this store specifically.
https://www.macrumors.com/2018/11/28/iphone-xr-best-selling-iphone/
It was obvious the XR would outsell the Max from day one. The real question is how well does XR sell compared to the all time high of the iPhone 6 era.
It's really the entire line up this year though.
Apple's 2018 iPhone lineup:
iPhone 7 $449
iPhone 7 Plus $569
iPhone 8 $599
iPhone 8 Plus $699
*iPhone Xr $749
iPhone Xs $999
iPhone Xs Max $1099
*Best selling
Xr flopped so hard I just traded my ‘old’ X in after a month of use with it 
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0.03 of an inch (0.6mm) thicker than the xs/xs max....
I'll take that slightly extra thickness for the amazing battery life.
Sure, but as someone who's owned both phones, its noticeable and its a fair thing to criticize if it's noticeable, not unlike you notice the better battery life on the XR
FTR, I still think the XR is better value, and I recommend it to family who are looking for a new iPhone and don't care about the things I value - but I don't agree with comments that brush off the thicker bezel. It does make a difference when watching videos or using the phone landscape...because that 0.6mm turns into 1.2 mm when you compare both bezels in landscape, and it can feel surprisingly claustrophobic at times
Also, despite the screen to screen ratio, these side bezels are in fact thicker than the iPhone 6/6s/7/8 which can also stick out if you look for it. My mom had an issue with this, so its not unnoticeable
That said I do acknowledge most people won't notice this, and won't care - but some of us do notice it and its a fair comment!
I don’t know about flop. I know 3 friends that have just upgraded (one from a 5s, and two from 6s’) to the XR. One more is thinking about it. I am the only person I know that got a XS Max.
Not saying it’s indicative of the general population but it seems to be a hit in my circle of friends.
Not saying it’s indicative of the general population but it seems to be a hit in my circle of friends.
Fair enough but I wasn’t replying to a comment about a thicker bezel. It was about the Xr being slightly thicker than the Xs/Xs max
Who cares if it's a flop or not? I just paid £769.00 for a 128GB XR an option not available on the XS, I know this phone will be good for the next few years, this phone will depreciate slower than the XS which is important when I come to sell the phone in a few years time. To me the XR gives the best value for money.
Here's a good review explaining why the XR is the best value for money iPhone that Apple has ever made. https://daringfireball.net/2018/10/the_iphone_xr
Here's a good review explaining why the XR is the best value for money iPhone that Apple has ever made. https://daringfireball.net/2018/10/the_iphone_xr
I’m not sure if anyone noticed this, however; What I find interesting, is the OP who started started this thread on November 8th stating “Did the iPhone XR flop?”, the XR launched on October 26, how could it have possibly flopped in matter of just twelve days? The XR _never_ flopped in that short amount of time. In a way, the thread title is very misleading.
I was in two minds about upgrading to iPhone XR but as much as I appreciate the smaller form factor of the SE it came to a point where I couldn't get on with anymore to be honest.
I'm not fussed about having Gigabit LTE (given most of us will rarely, if ever, see those kinds of speeds in real world usage) nor am I fussed about having an OLED/HDR screen-it's fine for what I use it for and everyone has different needs/requirements.
My only criticism is the fact it's not at least 1080p and still uses the same PPI as the iPhone 4 but unless you put it next to the X/XS you have to get really close to notice the distinct lack of sharpness in the text etc.
I'm not fussed about having Gigabit LTE (given most of us will rarely, if ever, see those kinds of speeds in real world usage) nor am I fussed about having an OLED/HDR screen-it's fine for what I use it for and everyone has different needs/requirements.
My only criticism is the fact it's not at least 1080p and still uses the same PPI as the iPhone 4 but unless you put it next to the X/XS you have to get really close to notice the distinct lack of sharpness in the text etc.
No, it’s not. It’s clearly the budget model within the X series. The Xs is the successor to the X, so that’s the relevant price comparison. The Xr is the model with the latest processor but lesser features - exactly like last year’s 8.
The Xr is iPhone 9 with Face ID.
The X was a new class of device, which XS and XS Max are successors to.
All are premium devices, unless you didn't think iPhone 7 was a premium device.
Who said it was a budget model? Where is this advertised? When has apple said the XR is a budget model? Its lower in price compared to the other X offferings, but still carries a premium price for the offering. Because the XR is a premium offering. Does a BMW carry any less of a premium price compared to a Ferrari?
They don’t have to say it. It has a lower price in exchange for lacking the premium features of the X / Xs. Removed 3D Touch, low res LCD screen, single camera, etc. we can figure out for ourselves what it is without Apple using the word.
Please remember what I was responding to that started this back and forth: a poster saying Apple had lowered the price of their flagship phone by 25% from last year.
Which clearly isn’t what happened. The flagship device was the X and is now the Xs, and those are the same price (with the max being more and having no equivalent in the prior generation). The current-but-not-flagship was the 8/8+ and is now the Xr, which is priced between the 8 and 8+.
I honestly don’t care how you want to characterize the Xr. If you want to call it “premium,” ok, whatever. That’s a subjective term. But it’s disingenuous to say that Apple lowered the price of their flagship by comparing the Xr to the X. The Xr is the replacement for the 8/8+.
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Well, with this logic, the budget, entry level devices would go to the iPhone 7 and 8. Lower pricing than the XR, and still contains the 'premium' offerings you mention.
I never said anything like that. I have been debating that the XR is a premium offering for the price, and not a budget or entry level phone.
Ok. I don’t want to get hung up on subjective terms like “premium” and “budget.”
Right, I know you didn’t say that. A different poster did, and that’s what my original response was to. Our back and forth about “premium” and “budget” is a separate issue that I didn’t really intend to address.