timeconsumer
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When I returned it in the store they didn’t open the box to verify, they just returned it and issued me a refund. Do they open it in the back then?
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iPhone 16 Pro Max Did you return your 16 series iPhone?
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I am returning my 16 pro max. For the first time ever I just don’t like this upgrade cycle. I’m okay with my 15 pro max and ultra 2 combo. I’m not a huge fan of the camera button. Idk. This year I’m just not as excited as I usually am about the upgrade. It will also save me $1300!
Why did you order it then? The amount of people I see on this forum ordering the new one and then returning is really frustrating. I would suggest it’s so you all can take part in the pre-order/new release hype. But it takes away a phone from someone else waiting during launch, not the mention the environmental impact and administrative burden.
DDustiNN
macrumors 68030
Why are you so unwilling to accept that someone could read this forum, know what’s new, and still want to try the new phone out themselves before making a final decision? You being so adamantly against the OP is just as strange as you think they are for posting this.
Btw, I also knew what to expect from the 16 Pro, and still ordered one to compare to my 15 Pro. I am still in the deciding process myself, as I test the camera out at concerts this week. So it could be a more common situation than you think.
Scott6666
macrumors 68000
Next time wait, go to store and see it in person, then not buy.
Surfsalot
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can’t test a phone in store like in real day to day use lol
not everyone lives near a Apple Store you know, 6 hour drive for me.
Apple offer 14 days no question return for a reason, they even promote it when ordering over the phone.
princesses need to get over themselves.
DDustiNN
macrumors 68030
The 16 Pro (non-Max) is noticeably heavier and taller than the 15 Pro. The 15 Pro was the perfect weight and size. Maybe people just prefer that, and that’s okay.
azhava
macrumors 65816
I'm not sure I can notice 12g of weight, 3mm taller and 0.9mm wider. That's about the weight of two quarters, less extra height than the thickness of two quarters stacked on top of each other, and less width than the thickness of two pennies stacked on top of each other.
What make me laugh is those people claims that the 15 PM is lighter and they clearly can feel it but they also claims they don't see the difference on the screen size. How can you feel a 12g difference but can't see the bigger screen ?
The-Real-Deal82
macrumors P6
Why are people buying and returning? You know you are getting an iPhone, much of which is familar and there is enough information online to determine whether or not the minor spec improvements are worth it over your current device.
There is not a great deal of noticeable difference in weight between my old 13 Pro Max (stainless steel) and my new 16 Pro Max (titanium), I mean its a matter of grams, in fact its just 11 grams difference. That is a pencil or 2 sheets of A4 paper, almost unnoticeable. Now you say the 16 Pro is 'noticeably heavier' than the 15 Pro and in fact there is 22 grams difference which is the average weight of a single coin. Is that really going to make someone gasp in horror and return a phone they've just shelled out £999 for? I am not convinced to be honest and think its more psychological on the persons part than the product.
Don’t reason with these type of people. The fact that he feels the need to mention that he is saving 1300 this year should tell you a lot.
People don’t need to upgrade every year and I recommend most to not do it, (they shouldn’t need to). But these people are the worst, they upgrade and they return later with the typical excuse, it’s not worth the 1300, I don’t like it, I don’t like this/that, etc… the underlining reason is that if they could afford to upgrade (not have to care about the 1300) they would never return.
And that is specially the case with this years design being 99.99 percent that of the 15PM, 16pm is not miles better but it’s significantly better in my experience already, but again that’s me and that is why I tell people story don’t need to upgrade if you have 15PM.
Anyone going back because “this and that” I assume they don’t really have the money like that.
The guy you replied to is in the right. It’s funny as hell to take someone that didn’t even look up the specs before buying the phone seriously.
Also, although I know apple promotes that ****, next time you sell your car let the prospective owner test drive it for 14 days before deciding to buy it or return it. I bet you won’t feel so adamant about it then. Next thing you will tell me that a phone is not a car, and you are right, I went overboard with the example, it doesn’t make it less ludicrous the ridiculousness of people “deciding phase” to keep or not.
Just say you don’t have the money to sufficiently justify upgrading because you need it for something else. I don’t know anyone with money returning phones, or those that really need to upgrade after 3-4-5 years.
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Are you proud of embarrassing yourself?
Weight I can give you that, but size?? Please see here, and tell me again how you notice the size difference…
Yep, the guy thinks he notices, let’s keep it that way…
I laugh more at people with pro maxes. The weight difference between 15PM and 16pm is 6g, (12g is normal pro, probably due to metallic casing of battery and 5x telephoto)
In the PM 6g is negligible difference and anyone telling you differently, just nod at them and pat them in the back.
You made an excellent point in the psychological aspect. People wouldn’t complain about the weight too much if the phone had a different design or some flashy new thing.
What they don’t realise is the incredible effort apple went to reduce weight while keeping structural integrity in such large phones, and fixed the 15PM weak point in the wireless charging coil area.
Also, you didn’t see many people complaining the iPhone X was a substantial weight increase to the iPhone 8, (26g). They were distracted by the new display and whatnot. This in a 148g phone is a much bigger substantial weight difference to the 26g in a 200g/230g phone.
And the new ones don’t even increase by 26g, normal pro is 12!!! And that is adding features people complained about last year!!!!
Telephoto lens and better thermal capacity!
People reaching like they wish they could reach for money.
Go to android then. Why you here complaining?
Also, what $400 android you talking about that has better battery life? And running Microsoft?? I would like to be enlightened.
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I didn't complain ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I got the Nothing Phone 2a. Its about the dimensions of the 16 Plus and has the same camera arrangement.
iOS is still more reliable than Android most of the time and has some great exclusive apps.
Android is no slouch though. It too has some great exclusives (shout out to Bundled Notes) and can do a few things iOS cannot (like Dreamcast emulation).
The Nothing Phone has a lovely monochrome skin over Android (which you can turn off if you like), battery to last 2 days and proper VRR, not a fixed 120hz. It charges quickly enough and the camera is excellent. I say this as a photographer as well.
Other people's mileage may vary but I do wonder sometimes why hte majority of the market, that is the general public and not the enthusiasts who post on internet forums like ourselves pay anything more than $399 for a phone at all. $799 really should be the price ceiling for everyone though. Bar the 5x camera there isn't one feature in a Pro iPhone that makes anybody's life better over the regular 16.
Apple (and by extension every other company that followed) have almost duped the market into believing anything cheaper than $799 must have something terrible wrong with it. This is why the iPhone SE lives inside an iPhone 6. Android phones are not the 'trash' some posters here would have you believe and the Samsung A55 and Pixel 8a sit nicely alongside the Nothing Phone 2 in offering exceptional value at an affordable price.
(Ah, but PRIVACY! they will cry. Just because you have Android doesn't mean you have to use any Google apps or services. Samsung offer a full suite of replacement apps that plug right into Microsoft as a backend. 3rd parties like Evernote, Notion and Dropbox never went anywhere either)
Apple continues to make excellent, reliable phones that make lots of people happy. I use their kit every day. But the world outside the walled garden isn't Fallout 4)
SmugMaverick
macrumors 65816
This is pretty spot on
For years the Apple PR marketing team made people (mostly Americans) think anything below 800-1000 is a death trap but then companies like Google started giving people OLED, 120hz, two camera lens with flagship photos, for $400-450 and some people woke up.
It's not a scary place, it's just as good and in some cases better than iOS.
Don't be scared to try new things, Apple isn't this bastion of good and heroic privacy but just another trillion dollar company ripping us off.
I use both and as Gurman said, Apple AI is two years behind gemini for android.
Eriamjh1138@DAN
macrumors 65816
I recently needed to clear up some Apple Store table mess for a iPhone 13->16 upgrade guide I wrote. The title shot had the iPhone 16 tethered to its alarm cable, face down next to its magsafe stand. I photographed it next to my iPhone 13.
Yes, I could have spent a couple of hours using the clone tool to clear it all out in Pixelmator but this was a woodgrain table surface. Not easy to work with.
Apple's object removal working on-device did not do a great job at all, preferring to smudge everything into a mess.
I uploaded it to Google Photos and in 4 clicks I had an image that looked like both phones just sat side-by-side on any old wooden table.
janeauburn
macrumors 65816
janeauburn
macrumors 65816
Is the 16 Plus the same size and weight as the 15 Plus? If so, that's the one to get.
The only thing I want from android is the ability to play some more advanced emulators on my phone but other than that, there’s no feature I really want really. I don’t need to runn2 apps at the same time on my phone or things like that. Also, as long as I have a Mac, an iPad and a watch, I’d be stupid to switch And it’s not because I’m « trapped » it’s just that when you have many apple products, the whole experience is so much better.