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Yup. Went thru three different 16 Pros and they all had worse displays than my 15 Pro Max. Unfortunately I had already traded in my 15 PM so kept the last 16 Pro as I’m tired of trying.

Blue shift on tilt, uneven yellow tint display. Significantly worse than 15 Pro. Apple dropped the ball on the displays. There’s some that are great, as some demo units on the Apple Store look pristine. But it’s a lottery and I keep getting shafted lol

Example of blue shift from a Reddit post
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Yeah the shift color change reminds me of the s22 ultra I had for a week before returning it. However I didn’t even have to tilt it that far to notice color shift. A slight 1cm or 2cm right or left would completely shift color.
 
When you have to compare directly with another device to see tiny difference than its not an issue - at least for me.

The whole uniformity and yellow-ish, not so bright display is the "audiophile" syndrome in my book. Its something that only the "so called" experts will tell you its so bad because they saw a 0.1 mm difference compared to previous devices.

Oh and all those "tinted" and "not so bright" display is a topic that come back every single year so, I don't take those very seriously since I've never had an issue with my phone display so I must be an extremely lucky guy if I read all those posts here.
The poor uniformity, aggressive color shift when only slightly turning the phone, yellow screens, dust in camera lenses, are absolutely real issues. Just because you never experienced it doesn’t make them non-issues. Not saying that’s what you meant, but you are lucky to have not gotten any dud devices.

There is variance among screens, it is the nature of OLED. This whole brightness issue that people are experiencing, I think has something to do with Apple adjusting the brightness settings from the 15 to 16 series (16 gets much dimmer at low brightness).

My 16PM is brighter than my wife’s 16PM at the same brightness slider setting at certain points. The max and min brightness levels are the same though. Seems like there is some more variance than usual with the 16 series considering how dim it can get at the lowest setting.
 
The poor uniformity, aggressive color shift when only slightly turning the phone, yellow screens, dust in camera lenses, are absolutely real issues. Just because you never experienced it doesn’t make them non-issues. Not saying that’s what you meant, but you are lucky to have not gotten any dud devices.

There is variance among screens, it is the nature of OLED. This whole brightness issue that people are experiencing, I think has something to do with Apple adjusting the brightness settings from the 15 to 16 series (16 gets much dimmer at low brightness).

My 16PM is brighter than my wife’s 16PM at the same brightness slider setting at certain points. The max and min brightness levels are the same though. Seems like there is some more variance than usual with the 16 series considering how dim it can get at the lowest setting.
Some people are like that, it never happened because they never experienced something themselves. Same experience, I find my friends 16PM on max brightness a tad brighter than mine and also with True Tone ON mines a tad warmer. The cooler displays in my eyes have a tinge of red on their device, similar to my 14PM , my 16PM has zero red tinge but my friends 16PM does. Now I am being extremely critical in my comparison.
 
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I did. I setup my 16PM exactly how my 15PM was and when I added a case, I could not notice the screen difference. The camera control really isn't a "oh wow" feature and isn't worth $1300. The 16PM feels heavier as well.
nope. came from a 11 pro max, 5 years waiting before upgrade

after picking 16 pro max and getting 30-34 hr battery life with normal use before recharging definitely not returning lol dont even see 11 pro max going that long from memory
 
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I just returned my 16 Pro - will keep the 13 Pro for another one or two years.
Really wanted to like and "need" it ... but in daily routines I simply couldnt notice any significant differences. I even rather like how the 13 Pro feels thanks to the stainless steel.

  1. Camera - only noticable with a side by side comparison vs 13 Pro (if I need good pictures I take my fullframe sony with me)
  2. Notch vs Island - I dont care
  3. Display - i am running dark mode all day - one does not notify the larger screen ans smaller border at all.
  4. USB C - i have airpods, a business phone, girlfriend phone that are all on lightning .. honestly dont care on USB C vs lightning. I will need lightning for the next couple of years
  5. Always on was kinda cool ... but not really needed
  6. Action and camera button: action button usefull as I have my phone on silent 24/7. The camera button is a joke. Feels so forced by apple for have something new

The 13 Pro is just still soooo good. Kudos to Apple for the 13 Pro series ... see you in one or two years
 
Came on this forum to see if there were others like me who prefer the 15 pro max. I actually prefer the size of the 15 pro max over the 16 pro max hence returning it. The new camera notch is gimmicky to me (it's really just faster to use the touch screen) and .5x zoom is something I rarely use.
 
I almost pulled the trigger and upgraded last night as my local Apple Store had two 16 Pro Maxes in stock even though online it said unavailable.

I have a 15 pro max and tried the 16 pro max display unit in the store. After actually holding it in hand I had to remind myself it was the 16 pro max as it looks and feels like my current 15 pro max just slightly heavier and with a slightly bigger screen. The camera button is interesting but in reality, I know I won’t use it much to justify the upgrade. Just like I don’t use the action button much on my 15 pro max.

The reviews weren’t lying when they said all the changes this year were nice but most aren’t things you wouldn’t notice with day to day use minus the battery life and maybe heat management. Very incremental upgrades this year and Apple really should have kept the S year model/ branding as this should have been marketed as the 15S instead of iPhone 16. But I guess I see why the S year branding was killed to avoid consumer buyer confusion.

But not trolling it’s definitely worth upgrading to if you are on an older iPhone (14 or older). But 15 pro and pro max users should save their money in my opinion.
 
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My girl jokingly said I should just buy the 16PM use it for a few days and then return it to get over the hype.

I have the 256GB 15PM.

Same 15 PM 256 GB. I got over the urge to upgrade after playing around with the 16 pro max display unit in stores. It looks and feels just like the 15 pro max just with a few incremental changes. I think I can hold out til the 17 drops.
 
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I imagine because there's a newer, better one. At least, that's my motivation. For something I use as frequently as I do, having the most capable device is of value to me. I imagine it is for quite a few other folks.
Yeah it’s some that feel like they need the latest and greatest but smartphones are at the point where upgrading yearly won’t net any major improvements or innovations.
 
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Yeah it’s some that feel like they need the latest and greatest but smartphones are at the point where upgrading yearly won’t net any major improvements or innovations.
Yeah. Many 15 pro users claims that the 16 Pro is little to no different but they seems to forgot that the 15 Pros were also very minimal upgrades with almost nothing new that worth an upgrade from the 14.

It seems some people wants to upgrade yearly because they want to relives the early days of smartphones. It seems more like nostalgia than anything else because yearly upgrades is completely irrelevant nowadays.
 
Yeah. Many 15 pro users claims that the 16 Pro is little to no different but they seems to forgot that the 15 Pros were also very minimal upgrades with almost nothing new that worth an upgrade from the 14.

It seems some people wants to upgrade yearly because they want to relives the early days of smartphones. It seems more like nostalgia than anything else because yearly upgrades is completely irrelevant nowadays.

Well I would say the 15 pros had more noticeable differences from the 14 pro model than the 15 to 16.

The 15 pro included the titanium body ( lighter than the 14 pro models) , usbc, 5X camera, and a much improved chip that could run next gen console games and better overall performance to name a few. Plus introduced niche things like log video recording for those that use their phones for video content creation and spatial video recording for Apple Vision Pro support.

The 16 is just minor upgrades more akin to an S in previous iPhone interations. But to each their own.
 
Yeah it’s some that feel like they need the latest and greatest but smartphones are at the point where upgrading yearly won’t net any major improvements or innovations.

Need? Rarely. I upgrade annually because I want to. I want those incremental upgrades. I value those aspects of the phone that are a little better than last year (or more than a little in the case of the camera/sensor upgrades this year, along with the new minimum brightness on the screen, etc). For something I use so frequently, even modest upgrades are worth the upgrade.
 
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Just exchanged a 16 pro 512 for a 16 plus 512. Need a bigger screen and the pro max at 6.9 is a little too big and heavy.

Dont use 120hz and the 5x optical zoom. I run on low powermode 24/7 and 120hz is turned off. My eye’s cannot tell the difference. Zero.

There is a reason the reg 16s models are selling way up from last year. Apple made them too good this year.
 
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Need? Rarely. I upgrade annually because I want to. I want those incremental upgrades. I value those aspects of the phone that are a little better than last year (or more than a little in the case of the camera/sensor upgrades this year, along with the new minimum brightness on the screen, etc). For something I use so frequently, even modest upgrades are worth the upgrade.

I get where you coming from but do you ask yourself if you are going to really benefit from those incremental upgrades or they rather get used?? For example, do you use the log video recording feature?

I knows some just like having the latest but if you aren’t going to take advantage of the incremental upgrades the delima at least for me is if it's worth the money if I am not gonna use those new things.
 
I get where you coming from but do you ask yourself if you are going to really benefit from those incremental upgrades or they rather get used?? For example, do you use the log video recording feature?

I knows some just like having the latest but if you aren’t going to take advantage of the incremental upgrades the delima at least for me is if it's worth the money if I am not gonna use those new things.

I doubt anyone uses all the features on any phone, myself included. For me, the improvements that make an upgrade worth it are the increased CPU, GPU, NE, and improved camera system (not counting the button .. it's sorta neat, but hard to tell if I'll get much use out of it long term). Anything else is just bonus for me.
 
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I ended up returning my Pro. It’s great and there are refinements but I didn’t like the increased size and weight. Yes it’s definitely a small increase but noticeable nonetheless.

I echo everyone that says it really is an incremental update - at best - from the 15 Pro.
 
I ended up returning my Pro. It’s great and there are refinements but I didn’t like the increased size and weight. Yes it’s definitely a small increase but noticeable nonetheless.

I echo everyone that says it really is an incremental update - at best - from the 15 Pro.
To be honest, even coming from my 13 pro max I think it's an incremental update, especially performance wise (pretty disappointed with the 8GB of RAM that still reload my safari tabs and some light games as often as my 13 PM). I upgraded because I wanted a new phone with some new features I wanted from features from the 14 and 15 and the bigger screen but that's about it. I'm pretty satisfied with my purchase, but I think I could easily keep my 13 PM for one or two more years.

My point is, if a 3 years upgrade didn't feel like a huge jump, I can't imagine someone with a year or two behind and still expecting to be Wow'ed with the new phone.

So this time I've learned my lesson and I'll definitively keep this phone until it no longer receive updates or break.
 
Returned 16PM because of really bad yellow tint, tried another and it was worse (reminded me of some really bad first generation iPads that had terrible yellow displays). Sticking with my near-perfect 15PM.
 
I ended up returning my Pro. It’s great and there are refinements but I didn’t like the increased size and weight. Yes it’s definitely a small increase but noticeable nonetheless.

I echo everyone that says it really is an incremental update - at best - from the 15 Pro.
Even my 12 Pro is still worth keeping. I just returned my 16 with touch and call issues. Everything the new 16 has like the camera, speed boost and USB-C are refinements that don’t affect me much. i’ll keep my 12 for another year, and I can bet the 17 won’t affect me that much either at my age.
 
I did. I prefer the screen on my 15 Pro and to a lesser degree, the size.
Been back on the 15Pro a few days and it’s probably the first time I don’t regret going back to a previous iPhone model

The weight/size for one has been a notable relief. Much more pocketable.

Also glad to know I wasn’t imagining things. The screen on my 15Pro is notably nicer to use on a daily basis compared to the 16Pro screen which was inconsistent with colours (yellow top, white bottom) and very distracting.

Hopefully the 17Pro is a more compelling and less problematic upgrade
 
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Ordered the 16 Pro Max coming from a 15 Pro. Wanted to give the big screen a try again (after having had plus/max phones until the 12). I don't mind the size, but like others, the screen is a downgrade from my 15 Pro. Warmer, less uniform at angles, and a green tint at 0% brightness. The latter could be from new lower brightness, but my 13 Pro had a similar issue with the display turning green like that. Also the camera control is basically useless to me, and just a case cutout eyesore.

The slight increase in size to the 16 Pro is appealing, but if I'm going to switch, I might as well go all the way. I'm considering just picking up a second hand 15PM to use for the next year since my 15 Pro now feels small after using the 16PM for a week.
 
The weight/size for one has been a notable relief. Much more pocketable.
Curious, are you actually referring to the 16 Pro weight/size. Much more pocketable??

Coming from the 14PM the 16 Pro is a dream. All the screen issues I see many are commenting on is nothing I can see on my specific 16 Pro, I’m very thankful for that. Only thing I am now struggling with is the battery time…
 
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