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Theme? You mean a background image?



Conversely, I find them either equivalent or sometimes with more features on Android.

Can you tell us what cross-ported apps on both platforms you're talking about?



In either case the user has to unlock and scroll to the homepage with the Facebook icon/widget.

The difference with the widget is that the user can see and interact with it right there if they wish, without having to wait for the full app to launch.


1. Nope. I mean theme. And here I am speaking from a jail-broken perspective and probably should have prefaced by saying so. Saying one phone, from a ui standpoint, is more aesthetically pleasing than another is totally subjective and as such I won't really delve into that.

However, the themes I did apply on the Droid X, and the applications used to apply them to the phone were clumsy unimpressive. At least when I seek out a specific theme on an iPhone (again, jailbroken), I can expect an ecosystem that is more accessible.

Wallpapers are mostly irrelevant here. Although they look noticeably better on the "Retina" display (and are once again, easier to seek out and find because support follows an adopted volume)

2. This one will vary depending on the perspective you are coming from. So for me, I will just start from the top with my most used applications (and those I can remember from using the Droid X);

Facebook: Was kind of a joke on Android. Operation was clunky and slow. Unbelievably, interaction with certain elements would open facebook in the browser? The widget updates inconsistently and the interface within the application itself, while usable, has no clear direction. Want to refresh your feed? You will be searching for a hardware "menu" button. I'm not saying it isn't usable, because it is. My point is simply that it is faster, easier to use, has more features AND looks better on an iPhone.

Sportacular: As a rabid sports fan this is something I use constantly every single day. The Android version requires more interaction with the "menu" botton if you want to make any changes. After selecting a specific game on the iPhone, I immediately see the box score, the entire games scoring summary as well as the stations the game was or will be broadcast on. Sportacular on iPhone also features social network interaction, allowing you to log in and chat with other fans about a specific game, as well as making picks and predictions on whom you think will win X,Y,Z game. From the main screen, both phones update every 30 seconds; the main difference being the iPhone actually provides an option for manual updating of scores with a simply button. Honestly, I can go on but I feel that is sufficient.

Tweet Deck: This one really supports the "ported" application hypothesis I proposed earlier. You cannot even get tweet deck in the Android Marketplace. You have to sign up for their developer program and then download an early beta version. TweetDeck for iPhone launched over a year ago. I could just as easily go through this application 1v1 as well and point to obvious deficiencies, but this does not seem necessary especially when you consider one is in beta...


3. You are absolutely right. However, my point was not the numerical amount of stimuli that is required to unlock the phone, scroll over,etc,etc. My point is that while you may be right about widget access from your home screen, I am contending that these phones are not nearly as fast as advertised and that I was able to unlock my iPhone and select Facebook (an application that backgrounds with native iOS4) taking me directly to my news feed, BEFORE the Droid X would struggle to unlock in a fit of lag, then I got the pleasure of watching it populate all of the icons, and lastly the widgets, all the while I can't interact with the phone because it is in a near frozen state while struggling to bring those widgets on top of an animated wallpaper that seems to be doing everything it can to consolidate a mass of system resources. And finally I can see the Facebook widget, which is now pinging its convenient network connection to update to the latest post. I could click on the "F" to take me to the application, but this would bring me to the news feed and mean that I have to select the "menu" button once again THEN tap refresh before I could finally arrive where I want to.


Once again, my contention is not that Android is terrible or un-usable. I feel that it is only an acceptable alternative at this point. Especially when coupled with hardware like the Motorola Droid X.
 
Let us know when you decide to be on a call and need to check your email or browse the Internet when you're not on wifi. Number one reason why I returned the dx the next day.
 
However, the themes I did apply on the Droid X, and the applications used to apply them to the phone were clumsy unimpressive. At least when I seek out a specific theme on an iPhone (again, jailbroken), I can expect an ecosystem that is more accessible.

Of course, the iOS application platform is much mature than Android. As I stated before, in terms of pure 'out of box' experience, Apple does better than Android. I really hope Google takes more control over what the carrier puts on their OS.

Facebook: Was kind of a joke on Android...

Sportacular: As a rabid sports fan this is something I use constantly every single day. The Android version requires more interaction with the "menu" botton if you want to make any changes.

Tweet Deck: This one really supports the "ported" application hypothesis I proposed earlier. You cannot even get tweet deck in the Android Marketplace.

With regards to the list of apps, that isn't an Android issue, thats an issue with the developers themselves. In due time, the maturity of Android apps will only grow. Since Android devices are selling at an astronomical rate, I wouldn't be surprised to see much more enriched applications in the future to come.

I am contending that these phones are not nearly as fast as advertised

Advertised in reference to what?

Once again, my contention is not that Android is terrible or un-usable. I feel that it is only an acceptable alternative at this point. Especially when coupled with hardware like the Motorola Droid X.

I hear what you're saying. If a user makes no customizations to his/her Droid X phone, the experience 'out of the box' is not as slick and smooth as the iPhone, however, if one does a little bit of reading, there are applications in the Android Marketplace that resolves the laggy UI issue (notably apps like LauncherPro or ADW Launcher).

I'm optimistic as to how carriers will deliver their products. A Motorola executive stated some weeks earlier that the 'MotoBlur' UI which is notorious for adding bloatware and making entire system laggy will not be in future devices. This is a good sign to come.

But overall i hear where you're coming from, as long as companies like Motorola and HTC add in their own clunky UI, I don't see how they can win over mainstream users.

If you're the type of smartphone user that likes to customize their phones, I don't see how Android OS can't be a compelling device to use. The customizations are almost limitless on Android.

In the end, I'm really digging the mobile platform war that is ensuing. Customers are only benefiting, and innovation is coming at a break-neck speed. So thank you Jobs for putting the entire industry on edge and making them work harder! Because, really, if there was no iPhone, there would not have been a Droid X.

Cheers
 
Let us know when you decide to be on a call and need to check your email or browse the Internet when you're not on wifi. Number one reason why I returned the dx the next day.

you probably should have known that before even purchasing the DX. And btw, thats not a DX issue, thats something you'd have to complain about CDMA technology, which Verizon uses.
 
It's funny - reading people dig on the Android and citing the App Store as a reason for Android's failure at this point because of no good apps or poorly designed.

Why is it amusing? Because how many people here (full disclosure - I'm not one of them - i started with the 3GS) got the ORIGINAL iPhone. How many people had a phone that was just a phone and an iPod because there was NO app store.

Now I'm not defending nor praising android phones. And yes - the playground is different now that there IS an app store.

But it's still a bit hypocritical for people to jump on the Android bashing because the App Store isn't in maturity yet. Have they had time? Sure. Are they taking longer to reach that maturity. Perhaps.

But out of the box, the Android phones, from what I understand had/have a lot more functionality than the iPhone did and people still thought the iPhone was "amazing."

I'm very intrigued by what I've seen both the Droid X and the Incredible do. I don't own either but have colleagues that do. They love seeing the latest apps for the iPhone and I enjoy playing around with their phones. I've experienced not of what some bashers claim. I didn't find the OS buggy or laggy. I just found it to be a different experience. Some things were better than the iPhone and some things weren't.

And overall I do love my iPhone 4. But at this point - I stay with Apple for a few reasons. The biggest being my investment in Apps. Switching phones wouldn't make much sense right now until some of the Apps I use are available Android and/or I decide to throw away my investment and start a-new.
 
To be fair, I think the big selling point of the original Iphone was the smoothness of the touch experience and having been the first with multi-touch. It was cool to use, but deep down it was lacking many features that other phones already had.

I have a Torch and the Iphone 4 right now. My brother has the HTC Incredible and I had the Nexus One. All have their + and -. Having said that I do agree that I've spent a lot of money on apps (especially on navigation apps) and will be keeping my Iphone as it does have the complete package of what I use my phone for.
 
Why is it amusing? Because how many people here (full disclosure - I'm not one of them - i started with the 3GS) got the ORIGINAL iPhone. How many people had a phone that was just a phone and an iPod because there was NO app store.

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I had the original iPhone (Skipped the 3g-gs and got the 4) and that was not the reason I got it. I got it, because at the time there was nothing like this phone on the market. I didn't even have iTunes until I got the OG phone. The app store ended up being the icing on the cake. But the ease of use of the phone/OS brought me back to apple after 2 years with a BB 8900. I have played with all the droid phones, but even with 2 years off I picked up right where I left off with the new phone. I am sure you can customize the heck out of the Droid (and yes, I am jailbroken, so you can do the same with my iPhone) But for the average consumer, the iPhone is much easier to use out of the box. Once you get to customizing, you can't really compare any of the phones to each other. They then become a tool for each individual.
 
That's okay I guess but my iP4 goes days without a recharge and that's with a good bit of use (Facebook, Twitter, Web, News Feeds, iPod, some Netflix). For instance, I didn't plug it in over night last night and I'm still at 73%. Time since last charge: 22 hours.
You are definitely full of it with that lie. Days ??? yeah ok !!!!!:rolleyes:
 
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My wife has the droid x and it comes no where close to the iPhone 4. The build quality is a plastic heap with a sub par operating system. Maybe after a couple years when the android os is overhauled (way too buggy & lagging) it might be a decent handset? It seems as though each day another cheap plastic android device is released. I will stick with the god phone, thanks.
 
You are definitely full of it with that lie. Days ??? yeah ok !!!!!:rolleyes:

I could believe that, since I've experienced that. When I first got my iPhone 4, I did a little battery test, the results came back, 5 hours of usage of internet, facebook, ipod, just browsing around to other things like stocks and weather, cuberunner, few minor intensive games for a while, and 24 hours of standby. I love this phone and the battery life just proves my point. I tested my phone also to see how it would handle very intense games such as Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2 and 9 Innings Pro Baseball, and I got 5 hours played. Those are pretty intense 3D games and I played for 5 hours almost straight which made me very impressed.
 
Tweet Deck: This one really supports the "ported" application hypothesis I proposed earlier. You cannot even get tweet deck in the Android Marketplace. You have to sign up for their developer program and then download an early beta version. TweetDeck for iPhone launched over a year ago. I could just as easily go through this application 1v1 as well and point to obvious deficiencies, but this does not seem necessary especially when you consider one is in beta...

Why is it that every time I read one of these 'I tried out an android phone and the iphone is better because..' posts they're full of either glaring inaccuracies, gross exaggerations or downright misleading information? If I didn't know better I would think it was intentional...

Yes, Tweetdeck is only now being released on Android. Who cares? It's not even the best twitter client.

In any case, would you like to know why it took so long?

It's because they rewrote it from the ground up.

And no, it does not support your 'ported' hypothesis, since the devs have clearly stated that future iPhone versions of tweetdeck will actually be based on the new app they developed for Android.

From tweetdeck's blog::

Interestingly Android TweetDeck also represents the future of our iPhone and iPad applications. We'll have a few bug fix releases shortly (awaiting approval in the app store) but in the background we are working on porting Android to iPhone in as quick a time as possible. Finally, it won't be long before most of the new concepts in Android TweetDeck make it to the desktop and web - we're also working on this now.

So enjoy your 'ported from Android' version when it arrives in 6 months time ;)
 
Let us know when you decide to be on a call and need to check your email or browse the Internet when you're not on wifi. Number one reason why I returned the dx the next day.

With AT&T?

I'll take the DX and Verizon network any day.

Making a call is the important thing. The other stuff is gravy but if you gots a crap network, you gots window dressing.
 
Yup, that's a Droid X, thanks for sharing, I had no idea what it looked liked.



Now where is the guy with the Cool Story, Bro image, he needs to come post it here asap.

How come I don't see these comments in the Apple product unboxing threads? Do you feel cool being a prick to this guy? He's not flaming the iPhone, he's just sharing some photos of a phone he likes and I agree that it looks pretty good.
 
I'll buy some multitasking. Its too bad that programs have to be re-written to be "multi-tasking" If you want your app to do something in background but there's no specific api available to allow this, the iOS app will have its state frozen. That's not true multitasking.

What do you want an app to do that the APIs don't allow them to do? I'm just curious.
 
Let us know when you decide to be on a call and need to check your email or browse the Internet when you're not on wifi. Number one reason why I returned the dx the next day.

Seriously, this argument only goes so far. While driving all I am (should be) doing is calling. The fact that I cannot make a call from the Virginia border to roughly Richmond is enough for me to not need AT&T any longer. I've been with AT&T and the companies they once were longer than most on these boards. I'd say I've given them more than a fair shake. A couple iPhones in I'm done. Nothing, and I do mean nothing, trumps being able to make a phone call on your cell phone. If AT&T just wants to give me a data plan then fine. I'll take their shoddy cell service. I'm tired of paying for both when I miss calls due to being without bars. I checked their coverage map in places I have no service (my bathroom in my house) and low and behold, it's all orange.
 
Let us know when you decide to be on a call and need to check your email or browse the Internet when you're not on wifi. Number one reason why I returned the dx the next day.

I have had my iPhone for 2 years and have never needed that. :rolleyes:
 
i get phenomenal battery life on the Droid X due to Android OS's high customization of its multitasking process. Even on a 4.3 inch screen, I am reaching battery life of 17 hours on STOCK battery.

Verizon offers an extended battery (fully replaceable of course) for $39.99. This essentially doubles your battery life.

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LOL.

17 hours... Do you not see people with 30 hours standby and 8 - 10 hours of usage time with the iPhone 4?
 
LOL.

17 hours... Do you not see people with 30 hours standby and 8 - 10 hours of usage time with the iPhone 4?

Um.. I can easily do that too. I'm not giving my best times on the DX. Its just a sample. Most users won't be getting 10 hours of usage + 30 hours of standby time. You wouldn't be running any radios then, 3G off, Bluetooth off, WiFi off, with 0 phone calls. Its a paperweight then.

Oh and btw, the iP4 is a 3.5 inch screen. Guess what the DX is? 4.3 inches.
 
always seeing the Motorola name and the verizon branding on the front = epic fail, why the shi*ty companys love to place there logos or names on every blank spot they find on the product?
Apparently you've _not_ noticed this is an industry standard practice in the USA for all phones except the iPhone.

Personally, it's not a deal breaker for me, I don't wear my phone like a fashion accessory, I'm too busy using it.
 
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