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Am I alone in guessing that this will ultimately replace the 15" model? And am I *really* out there in predicting that the 16" will be priced at most $200 over the same-specc'd 15" model in the meantime?
I think you're exactly right.

This will replace the 15" model, and start around $2,599.
 
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Don't give them ideas...

to all who are whining about the price, go back five, 10, 20 years and look at the prices Apple has charged for their high-end machines. They have always been high. If you use them professionally, it’s not a big deal. You can always write them off. They also tend to last longer than other machines. These forums have become a bottomless pit of complaining, snarkiness, and noise.
 
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Wonder, if Wonder Woman, would buy a Macbook Pro in today's dollars ;)
 
Doesn’t it seem late for invitations? I feel like they wouldn’t just release the 16” MacBook Pro as just a press release. Maybe invitations will go out today or tomorrow, who knows? 🤔

Just like politics and religion should not be pushed by capitalistic companies, if you remove the SJW (social justice warrior) stuff (good or bad) that Tim Cook does at all Apple live presentations, the presentation would feel oddly quick, and since he just did a SJW presentation last month, he may feel it's too early to push more SJW now. I miss the days when Steve Jobs did the whole presentation and it felt sincere, cohesive, and did not feel like he was ever pushing politics.
 
And remember all things being equal the better the Macbook, the longer the Macbook will keep up with Mac OS upgrades. So if a good machine last 6 years or more the long term investment is worth the price if you are on your Mac all the time.
Yeah it certainly does look less alarming taking it over a longer period. I have previously preferred to update a bit more regularly, but I've done OK with my 2015 until now (over 4 years and still going strong) so don't see any reason this wouldn't do even better* - my real concern is that I prefer to go for a stock option over a BTO (rigmarole with returning/ exchanging if something is wrong or goes wrong) so if the base model doesn't come with at least 512GB of storage I'm gong to be looking at some really hefty upcharges on an already expensive machine - likely in the £3,500 region, whereas a 512GB MBA is £1,600 and the only thing wrong with it for me is I find the screen size annoyingly small (external monitor not really an option).

*Well, aside from the whole ARM transition thing which starts sounding a little worrying when planning to plough multiple thousands into a machine...
 
Why 16in does not replace 15in? That's the biggest curiosity.

In my opinion, it is possible that Apple will replace the 15 inches with the 16-inches model.
But, would they tell us that they will replace the model? They might not tell us in this event since they still have 15-inches stock to sell. They might quietly replace it in the next year.

However I still hope to see the 14 inches (or the non-tb) due to the leaked models that were registered in the Europe database few months ago. Also, hopefully, they will reduce the prices of the current 15 models.
 
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Are you kidding me? Who in their right mind would buy this, let alone anyone here on the MacRumors forums has enough cash to buy this?
Lot's of people would buy this for 3-5k depending on GPU, CPU and storage:
1) Many pros really need this and for them it's an investment.
2) For middle class income people this is a nice desktop replacement.
3) If you live in Boston, NYC, San Francisco or LA and you are a young professional just starting your job you likely pay more than that as rent per month. So this kind of expense is just an average add on to your overall cost of living.
 



Apple's widely rumored 16-inch MacBook Pro will be available by the end of October, suggesting that an announcement is imminent, according to supply chain sources cited by hit-or-miss industry publication DigiTimes.

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16-inch MacBook Pro concept by MacRumors

The report claims Taiwanese manufacturer Quanta Computer has already begun volume shipments of the 16-inch MacBook Pro, which the supply chain sources expect to feature a more reliable scissor keyboard, an "ultra-thin bezel design," and Intel's latest Coffee Lake Refresh or Ice Lake processors, although Intel has yet to announce Ice Lake chips appropriate for a high-end MacBook Pro.

The slimmer bezels would result in the 16-inch MacBook Pro being around the same size as the existing 15-inch model despite having a larger display. IHS Markit analyst Jeff Lin said the notebook's resolution will be 3,072x1,920 pixels.

Last week, icons depicting a MacBook Pro with slimmer bezels in Silver and Space Gray were uncovered in the macOS Catalina 10.15.1 beta, lending credence to an upcoming release. Both icons were created just over a week ago, have "16" in the filename, and reference an unreleased MacBookPro16,1 model.

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15-inch MacBook Pro icon on left, possible 16-inch MacBook Pro icon on right via MacGeneration

Apple's plans to release a 16-inch MacBook Pro were first revealed by Ming-Chi Kuo, who back in February said the notebook would be released in 2019. Kuo later said the notebook would be equipped with a scissor keyboard. Bloomberg's Mark Gurman has also reported that the notebook is coming in 2019.

Apple is expected to position the 16-inch MacBook Pro at the high end of its notebook lineup, with existing 15-inch and 13-inch MacBook Pro models remaining available and following suit with scissor keyboards in 2020, according to Kuo.

Article Link: DigiTimes: 16-Inch MacBook Pro to Launch by End of October With Ultra-Slim Bezels and Scissor Keyboard


OLED Touchscreen option??
 
The 16" Pro will eventually replace the 15" but until that happens Apple will take advantage of early adopters by offering only very expensive configurations. They have done it in the past and they might do it again. Simply put, Apple won't offer any cheap configurations (e.g. 256GB SSD or Intel i5 processors) thus forcing people to spend at least $3000 even if they don't need 512GB of SSD or an i7. Then next year they could also offer cheaper configurations that completely replace the 15".
Yeah, you're right. What was I thinking. I guess part of me is still stuck in the Jobs era where iterative updates were not shaped into entirely new product tiers in order to gouge people.

But that's probably exactly what they will do. It will eventually replace the 15" when they get around to offering a lower spec. But at first, they will only offer a model that, when equipped, gets the starting price up to $2,999.

Effectively this will allow Apple to sell the only MacBook with a fixed keyboard for $2,999 and up for a few months. Many customers will be forced to seriously consider this model for the keyboard alone. Just when you thought they couldn't get any more scummy.
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What are the odds that this doesn't ship with a Touch Bar?
From the leaked icon, it appears it has been modified to add back a physical escape key, yet keep the rest of the Touch Bar. To me this means the odds of a totally-non Touch Bar model are nil.
 
to all who are whining about the price, go back five, 10, 20 years and look at the prices Apple has charged for their high-end machines. They have always been high. If you use them professionally, it’s not a big deal. You can always write them off. They also tend to last longer than other machines. These forums have become a bottomless pit of complaining, snarkiness, and noise.
Blimey, it was a joke and by the way I’ve have been used to Apple’s pricing policy since 1989 when I started using them professionally!
 
If this is going to start at $3000, it better really be pro-level (no compromises)...and while you're at it, please bring out a lower cost 14" variant
 
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An almost imperceptibly larger screen than the current 15" (remember-these screens are measured diagonally) and a retro keyboard like they used to make many years ago (that's reliable).
It'll be billed a the new improved MacBook Pro with new technology- but it's really just a backwards step fixing the mistakes they've recently made. Innovation Only
 
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With the right upgraded internals I imagine a lot of people would bite at that price.

Yes - I think we're way past the price issue at this point. First, let's just get what we desperately need from Apple at ANY price - then we'll complain about bringing the price down. :)
 
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An almost imperceptibly larger screen than the current 15" (remember-these screens are measured diagonally) and a retro keyboard like they used to make many years ago (that's reliable).
It'll be billed a the new improved MacBook Pro with new technology- but it's really just a backwards step fixing the mistakes they've recently made. Innovation Only

Don't mock them for this! It's their refusal to correct mistakes that has me still using a 2015 MBP. Please - encourage Apple to fix things instead of doubling down on them so as to not admit it's a mistake. And for those of us on the verge of being forced out of the Apple ecosystem, any compromise from Apple to keep the platform tenable is indeed an amazing breakthrough. Thank you Apple - hope there's more of this in the future. Just fix your mistakes and we will be happy. No more change for changes' sake.
 
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