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Apple refreshes much of its product lineup on an annual basis, and a new report reveals when that process may begin this year.

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Taiwanese website DigiTimes first claims some suppliers are poised to benefit from new or increased orders from Apple to help produce next-generation iPad, MacBook, and Apple Watch models at some point in 2018:The report then replaces Apple Watch with iPhone in the sentence, and says the new products are slated for debut starting in March:The timeframe could simply be a guess based on Apple's new product releases last year. In 2017, the company announced a lower-cost 9.7-inch iPad in March by way of press release, alongside (PRODUCT)RED edition iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus models, and larger 32GB and 128GB storage capacities for iPhone SE.

As a boilerplate disclaimer, DigiTimes does not have a perfect track record. The publication has shared inaccurate information about both what is coming and when on Apple's roadmap, including last year's prediction that Apple would unveil its 10.5-inch iPad Pro at an April event that never transpired.

If the report is accurate, the iPad lineup is likely the most ideal candidate for product refreshes as early as March. The launch of new iPhone and Apple Watch models now seems tied together in September, while Apple hasn't unveiled new notebooks in March since the Early 2015 model 13-inch MacBook Pro.

Apple could also unveil a second-generation iPhone SE in March, which marks the two-year anniversary of the budget device, but KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo recently cast some doubt on this possibility.

Article Link: DigiTimes Predicts Apple's First New Products of 2018 Could Debut Starting in March Like Last Year
My only wish is that the have gotten rid of these "scissor mechanism" keyboards, both on the MacBook lineup as well as the standalone keyboards. They're an abomination for people who type all day long. It's like typing on a concrete bar.
 
Why not just use a regular iPad? It's not like a Pro model is any better.

I need an iPad that can take the place of a laptop in every way that I need it to. A regular one cannot do it at present, so I am wondering if they'll release a Pro model that can. I'd like Pencil support, so I guess I need a Pro.

I really don't give a damn which sort they release, but I need it to replace a laptop or I have no reason to upgrade and I can just keep my 2017 touchbar MBP and my 2016 9.7 iPad Pro.
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Haha I was wondering that myself.

I hate the home button now. Kill it on the iPad!

I find the home button awkward after using Face ID and not having a home button on the X.
 
Yeah know what the next 4 names of Intel chips are going to be, but Cannon Lake is just Kaby Lake in a smaller die - but you'd be lucky to see it even by June, never mind March.

die shrinks sometimes get more cores. I mean, MBP hasn't changed its config (4 cores and 16GB RAM) since 2011, it's way overdue imo, both RAM and CPU. It just makes no sense to still rock same maximum RAM as 8 years ago...

I'm still holding out because the 2017 15" offers but a marginal performance bump over my 2012 rMBP.

edit: I'm just pissed there isn't a pro option without a giant 27" screen attached to it. :rolleyes:
 
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Miniminiminiminiminiminiminiminimini...

Please and thank you.

C'mon Apple, Daddy needs a new MacMini.

I never though I would say this, but I need a mini too.
Have an 4K LG monitor with USB-C and Apple keyboard/Magic Mouse 2 waiting just for it. And really don't want to buy the current version yet.
By the way, will the mini be OK to edit on Final Cut Pro X (Non 4k files, just HD) anyone?
 
I never though I would say this, but I need a mini too.
Have an 4K LG monitor with USB-C and Apple keyboard/Magic Mouse 2 waiting just for it. And really don't want to buy the current version yet.
By the way, will the mini be OK to edit on Final Cut Pro X (Non 4k files, just HD) anyone?
I do a lot of video transcoding, which is why my Mini is 7 years old. After that, Apple did away with quad core processors, which are well suited to that kind of mathematical heavy lifting. Afaik, FCPX supports multi core CPUs, so I wouldn’t buy a current gen Mini if your use case involves a lot of HD video editing. You’re the person for whom they made the Mac Pro. We’re hoping they release a new one this year (there have been hints) but it’s been so long no one’s holding his/her breath.
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Never understood that either. The galaxy line from the start has always been the latest technology demonstrator, even if gimmicky.
Arguable, but that’s actually not what I meant. I think the S9 is strikingly close to the S8, so I’m wondering if the criticism of being iterative will be leveled at Samsung just as it is at Apple.
 
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Within the last week or so there was a fire sale on 2016 15" MacBook Pro models, up to $1200, Best Buy has been running $100-250 off as well on 2017 models, $250 on the low end 13". Then again there has been a lot of school supply sales so that could be BB’s reason and they also had sales on the Surface line of notebooks. Last I remember, was’t Apple suppose to release a 15" MBP "Pro" to complete the new iMac Pro line.
 
Then get a laptop.

I have one. I have a 2017 touchbar MBP. I’m really not sure why you’re hung on my post.

All I was saying is that if the new iPads cannot replace a laptop I’d likely skip upgrading this time around. My 2016 iPad Pro works quite well.
 
die shrinks sometimes get more cores. I mean, MBP hasn't changed its config (4 cores and 16GB RAM) since 2011, it's way overdue imo, both RAM and CPU. It just makes no sense to still rock same maximum RAM as 8 years ago...

I'm still holding out because the 2017 15" offers but a marginal performance bump over my 2012 rMBP.

edit: I'm just pissed there isn't a pro option without a giant 27" screen attached to it. :rolleyes:

Oh trust me, the 2017 is light years about the 2012 - hell it knocked the socks off my 2015 in every single possible way. It's much more than raw CPU stats (although they perform much better because there's less thermal throttling than the old chassis) every single part has a upgrade.

If/when it happens I wouldn't bother getting a 32gb MacBook Pro anyway, it's not necessary, you've really got to be doing insane amounts of stuff on the move to use up 32gb and by that point you'd probably be on 30 minutes battery life.

CPU's i've been meh about for years - we've had enough CPU headroom for 99% of users for years. The only people looking for more are really audio guys with plugins - video editors are mainly relying on GPU's to the encoding. You could say Handbrake but encoding videos with Handbrake is hardly a professional pursuit. Most other people never max out their CPU and the way we've slowed to a crawl with CPU development i'm surprised people still care about MacBook Pro releases based on Intels chip names - things like SSD's have been developing at a much bigger rate.
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The redesign before that was an anomaly. If you take it out, you get an average of 259 days, or about nine months.



Sure, but nothing keeps Apple from doing stuff aside from Intel’s cycle. They can use Kaby Lake-G right now. They can ship a machine with DDR4 RAM right now.

Not low power DDR4 they can't - Intel chips still don't support it.
 
If/when it happens I wouldn't bother getting a 32gb MacBook Pro anyway, it's not necessary, you've really got to be doing insane amounts of stuff on the move to use up 32gb and by that point you'd probably be on 30 minutes battery life.

That’s great for you, but 16 GB means that I can in practice either run one VM at ~6 GB (much more than that, and the host OS X becomes unusable) or two very RAM-starved ones at 3 GB each. Which works, but is rather limiting. 32 GB would give it so much more breathing room.

It’s the main limiting resource on my 2014 rMBP, and it’d just plain be disappointing for my next machine to have the exact same number, but that’s apparently what Apple forces me to do.

CPU's i've been meh about for years - we've had enough CPU headroom for 99% of users for years.

99% of users don’t spend three grand on a laptop.

Yes, the SSD boost will help. Yes, there’s some architectural improvements. But you’re being really condescending or clueless to the needs of professionals who just want a goddamn high-end laptop from Apple.

Not low power DDR4 they can't - Intel chips still don't support it.

That’s why I’m talking about a separate model.
 
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Oh trust me, the 2017 is light years about the 2012 - hell it knocked the socks off my 2015 in every single possible way. It's much more than raw CPU stats (although they perform much better because there's less thermal throttling than the old chassis) every single part has a upgrade.

If/when it happens I wouldn't bother getting a 32gb MacBook Pro anyway, it's not necessary, you've really got to be doing insane amounts of stuff on the move to use up 32gb and by that point you'd probably be on 30 minutes battery life.

CPU's i've been meh about for years - we've had enough CPU headroom for 99% of users for years. The only people looking for more are really audio guys with plugins - video editors are mainly relying on GPU's to the encoding. You could say Handbrake but encoding videos with Handbrake is hardly a professional pursuit. Most other people never max out their CPU and the way we've slowed to a crawl with CPU development i'm surprised people still care about MacBook Pro releases based on Intels chip names - things like SSD's have been developing at a much bigger rate.
I know it is - it has 6x as fast SSD, couple of times faster RAM (and even if you page, you page on a super fast 3gb/s SSD not on a 500mb/s SATA3 SSD), but CPU is only roughly 20% better, and this is actually the thing that's giving me the most head-aches right now.
I guess i could eat 16GB RAM if it had more CPU cores, especially due to faster paging.

You guess right tho - I'm one of those audio guys.
Running low on juice right now, some of my plugins eat up half of a core. (2C audio B2, u-he Repro-5) - not because of shoddy programming so i can't hope for optimisation there, and on my recent project i was pushing it to the limit. Having 20% overhead is nice - for a year or two, but not for 5 years, and not worth 4k as such an upgrade would cost me.

There's really no real upgrade option from Apple aside iMac Pro - I would gladly take Trashcan if it had TB3/usb-c ports. I would gladly take MBP if it had.
iMac Pro seems to be it - except i need it to be at least semi-movable. (I sometimes work from home and sometimes from studio. Trashcan is easy to carry, 27" iMac is not.)

i will probably wait for a refresh (as average is ~300 days) https://buyersguide.macrumors.com/#Retina_MacBook_Pro
and then dive in, 6 cores or not.
 
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A new MPB with enough performance improvement to legitimately justify the upgrade passing over the previous TouchBar MBP wold be awesome.
 
Things look particularly bad right now, value wise, considering low end 8th Gen 15 watt CPUs that can be found in ~$600 laptops now match the MBP 15 in processing power. For ~$1000 these laptops can handle 32 GB Ram and also come with much better graphics than is currently available on the MBP 15. I would not want to be in the position where I was forced to buy a new MBP today!

I am looking forward to seeing Apple upgrade their Mac lineup. There are some really good CPUs out right now and its tough seeing nice $700 Windows towers (XPS 8930) getting iMac crushing performance out of the new i7-8700. I think it benchmarks around 23K in Geekbench which is a nice bump. Can't wait to see this kind of performance in the iMac, or dare I say, a new Mac Mini replacement...
 
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Things look particularly bad right now, value wise, considering low end 8th Gen 15 watt CPUs that can be found in ~$600 laptops now match the MBP 15 in processing power.

I doubt they can sustain that performance. A few minutes, maybe ten.
 
I know it is - it has 6x as fast SSD, couple of times faster RAM (and even if you page, you page on a super fast 3gb/s SSD not on a 500mb/s SATA3 SSD), but CPU is only roughly 20% better, and this is actually the thing that's giving me the most head-aches right now.
I guess i could eat 16GB RAM if it had more CPU cores, especially due to faster paging.

You guess right tho - I'm one of those audio guys.
Running low on juice right now, some of my plugins eat up half of a core. (2C audio B2, u-he Repro-5) - not because of shoddy programming so i can't hope for optimisation there, and on my recent project i was pushing it to the limit. Having 20% overhead is nice - for a year or two, but not for 5 years, and not worth 4k as such an upgrade would cost me.

There's really no real upgrade option from Apple aside iMac Pro - I would gladly take Trashcan if it had TB3/usb-c ports. I would gladly take MBP if it had.
iMac Pro seems to be it - except i need it to be at least semi-movable. (I sometimes work from home and sometimes from studio. Trashcan is easy to carry, 27" iMac is not.)

i will probably wait for a refresh (as average is ~300 days) https://buyersguide.macrumors.com/#Retina_MacBook_Pro
and then dive in, 6 cores or not.

It was my original job so I know your pain all too well. I still have my little audio setup on a 2015 iMac - I'll be honest that seems to have almost limitless power (especially when I consider it was my job I used to use a G5 which felt like a beast at the time, but I often hit limits)

I got an iMac Pro in for a few weeks and it is one hell of a machine, even the base model. It was Logic being bought by Apple that got me to buy my first Mac the G5, a few years later I decided a MacBook Pro would be ideal to work on the move and I just never got round to running my library on it - the whole issue with having a massive sample library didn't help - and I never got round to creating a sort of "paired down" mobile version - and then it's so hard to keep them in sync, so I sort of always stuck to music in the studio on the desktop Mac.

But yeah, that iMac Pro is a music making beast - I know multi-threading hasn't worked that well in past for music as it was traditionally made for offline processing of videos and the like, rather than realtime stuff like audio - but in the last few years finally Logic seems to work pretty well with it - I suspect with the right planning those Xeon cores would give you some fantastic performance. I've updated my signature as i've decided i'm definitely getting an iMac Pro now just not entirely sure which system to get apart from definitely need the 2TB drive.
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That’s great for you, but 16 GB means that I can in practice either run one VM at ~6 GB (much more than that, and the host OS X becomes unusable) or two very RAM-starved ones at 3 GB each. Which works, but is rather limiting. 32 GB would give it so much more breathing room.

It’s the main limiting resource on my 2014 rMBP, and it’d just plain be disappointing for my next machine to have the exact same number, but that’s apparently what Apple forces me to do.



99% of users don’t spend three grand on a laptop.

Yes, the SSD boost will help. Yes, there’s some architectural improvements. But you’re being really condescending or clueless to the needs of professionals who just want a goddamn high-end laptop from Apple.



That’s why I’m talking about a separate model.

You say professionals then you say running VM's - what sort of professionals are you talking about exactly - and why do you not consider me one? I make all my money from using Macs - so i'm a professional using a Mac.

I'm not sure why you need to be running multiple VM's on the move - if that was my job i'd just have the best desktop system I could to get stuff done. The example is nearly always lot's of VM's given by people - seems like loads of people want to run anything but macOS on the MacBook Pro and multiple other OS's at that. Perhaps Apple know these people don't really exist in real life? This article is a fantastic real world test - https://www.zdziarski.com/blog/?p=6355
 
But yeah, that iMac Pro is a music making beast - I know multi-threading hasn't worked that well in past for music as it was traditionally made for offline processing of videos and the like, rather than realtime stuff like audio - but in the last few years finally Logic seems to work pretty well with it - I suspect with the right planning those Xeon cores would give you some fantastic performance. I've updated my signature as i've decided i'm definitely getting an iMac Pro now just not entirely sure which system to get apart from definitely need the 2TB drive.

Multi-threading is much better now! In logic i can max out nearly all of my CPU before one core dies.

Yeah I want 2TB as well - which is why shelling 5k€ (as a 2TB MBP would cost) for a quad-core seems too much.

And iMac Pro is downright great - base model with 2TB add on SSD for 6,5k€, 8-cores with 32GB RAM, good enough for audio - just comes with a 27" screen attached which i dont want or need.

for 5K€, you get an 8-core with 32gb ram, crazy video card and giant retina screen. MBPr 15" just doesn't make sense at the price point if it doesnt have at least 6-cores.

Heck, if they just update the ports on the Trash Can Mac Pro to TB3/USB-C combos, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. I mean heartbeat - I'd place an order tomorrow. BUt I'm not paying 5 grand for standards on their way out.
 
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You tell me. I’m not the one invalidating how others use their computers.

No i'm not - i'm asking what this job is that requires you to run 3 VM's on a computer all day. As I said it's an example people give but I don't know who actually needs to do it on the move. It seems to be like a desktop job all day every day - but i'm willing to be told who's doing it...
 
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No i'm not - i'm asking what this job is that requires you to run 3 VM's on a computer all day. As I said it's an example people give but I don't know who actually needs to do it on the move. It seems to be like a desktop job all day every day - but i'm willing to be told who's doing it...

I develop software. I have to test it on multiple systems. I only do part of my job at a desk.

A desktop computer would be a significantly worse user experience.
 
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I develop software. I have to test it on multiple systems. I only do part of my job at a desk.

A desktop computer would be a significantly worse user experience.

Right, but you don't need to test it in three VM's at the same time do you? All at once? I mean you can only check whats happening one at a time and they fire up and shut down in seconds with a fast SSD so RAM isn't really the issue there.

I mean i'm sure there will be a 32gb machine for you at some point, but I think you'll be wasting the $600-$800 premium it'll cost to have it in real working terms.
 
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