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Would these make a good LTE hotspot? I guess, according to the recent article, they won't be as fast as the new ones, but that's OK.

Yes. I've even used my 5s an LTE hotspot, and the performance is about the same, and it works great.
 
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This will be Royal waste of someone's $249+tax for a phone which might lose support this year.

Though "possible", if Apple wants to drop this year support for 4" screens, I don't see them doing it. Newer guts than the 5s and 6. And if Apple stops supporting any phones this year, I would think it is those 2.
 
Right. So you paid $150 to be locked into a Cricket Wireless account which requires you to likely pay far more than the retail cost of the phone had it been bought through Apple new. Definitely not as a good a deal as what's being offered here.



I paid

$8.00 for all of mine. It can be waived if delivered to an Apple Store.



They're all the exact same model. Apple has had the carrier's remove the phone information from their database, so there are no restrictions.



Apple will likely just do a swap in the store. My understanding is the SE is still being manufactured for sale in other territories. So some new stock is likely made for US warranty repairs which are covered for another year. Either way, there is likely a fair amount of new stock on hand at this point given the SE's reliability record. So depending on Apple's policy with respect to the dead pixel, probably taking it to the Apple Store. You will most likely take a loss selling it on eBay with a defect.


Actually, it was a great deal for me. I am not technically “locked” into anything - I am willingly with Cricket since I like their service. I am certainly not paying any “more” than the $150
I paid for the phone as you claim. I am on a family plan for which I pay $30 a month for unlimited everything. That said, for someone who absolutely must have an unlocked phone this is a decent deal, but like I mentioned earlier, I have seen cheaper if one doesn’t mind 3rd party sales and the risks and trade offs that entails.
 
Finally got a 128 GB Space Gray!

/Dances a little jig

Thank you, Juli, for ignoring the nattering nabobs of negativism and keeping us informed about these clearance sales!
 
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I'm wondering why there almost has never been iPhone 8's available in the refurb store. I've been checking consistently for the past 8 months and only during a short stretch around last November were they available. I wasn't quite ready to pull the trigger on an 8 at that point, and figured they'd eventually be in the refurb store as consistently as the 7 ... but boy, was I wrong.
 
The 6.5" model outsold the 5.8" by 2 to 1 in the U.S. last December. Giant phones are wanted by everyone and everywhere.

The biggest outselling the bigger says nothing about potential sales of an updated SE. As an SE user, I didn’t buy any of the new phones because they’re too big.

Your everyone and everywhere is a bit hyperbolic.

I’d expect such a comment from a twittering U.S. president, but not among rational people.
 
One of the great aspects about the SE besides the display size and small form factor, was this phone never really had any problems. It was one of Apples better products that didn’t suffer from any ‘Gates’ per se. For this price, I wouldn’t hesitate to Purchase an SE again. But surprised to this as a 5th ‘Mini’ launch by Apple as well.
 
The biggest outselling the bigger says nothing about potential sales of an updated SE. As an SE user, I didn’t buy any of the new phones because they’re too big.

Your everyone and everywhere is a bit hyperbolic.

I’d expect such a comment from a twittering U.S. president, but not among rational people.

The adoption rate of the iPhone SE was poor. People keep asking why the SE hasn't been updated. The data speaks for itself - the original SE was poorly received in the first place.

18 month after the SE was launched, the vast majority of users hung on to their old iPhone 5 and 5s. The SE couldn't even convince 5s owners to upgrade. For comparison, 12 months after the iPhone 7/Plus was launched, it overtook the number of iPhone 6s/Plus users.

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I just checked and there are a variety in stock, 32 and 128GB, of which some are carrier (ATT, Verizon and T-Mobile) specific.
 
The adoption rate of the iPhone SE was poor. People keep asking why the SE hasn't been updated. The data speaks for itself - the original SE was poorly received in the first place.

18 month after the SE was launched, the vast majority of users hung on to their old iPhone 5 and 5s. The SE couldn't even convince 5s owners to upgrade. For comparison, 12 months after the iPhone 7/Plus was launched, it overtook the number of iPhone 6s/Plus users.

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So you’re saying Apple, who’s having sales problems now, should ignore an untapped market segment and cater only to folks who want bigger and bigger phones. Who didn’t buy so many phones this last time so now they’re doing this weird SE clearance thing every couple of weeks.

Anyway, not relevant. I was only commenting on your everyone and everywhere.

Personally, I’d be happy to buy a new phone from them, if they sold one that wasn’t so danged big.
 
I just checked and there are a variety in stock, 32 and 128GB, of which some are carrier (ATT, Verizon and T-Mobile) specific.

Yeah, there seemed to be almost all combinations. They must have gotten curious and finally opened up the back of the semi that has been sitting in the parking lot since Thanksgiving.
 
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Yeah, there seemed to be almost all combinations. They must have gotten curious and finally opened up the back of the semi that has been sitting in the parking lot since Thanksgiving.
I don't know why they were selling these sporadically for the last month and wished I knew why they did this :mad:. I really wanted one in Space Gray but ended up getting one in Silver.
 
I’m just curious how the battery life would be on these phones if they were manufactured months back, like July/August and lithium ion batteries when depleted and stay depleted, is generally not good for the battery, sometimes they never recover. Curious to know what the battery life percentage was at for those who received a recent shipment. Any one provide feedback on this? (As I’m sure others would be interested in knowing as well).
 
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So you’re saying Apple, who’s having sales problems now, should ignore an untapped market segment and cater only to folks who want bigger and bigger phones. Who didn’t buy so many phones this last time so now they’re doing this weird SE clearance thing every couple of weeks.

Anyway, not relevant. I was only commenting on your everyone and everywhere.

Personally, I’d be happy to buy a new phone from them, if they sold one that wasn’t so danged big.

Perhaps I was too literal with the everyone and everywhere statement. But every industry forecast predicts phablets will be the mainstream device for 2019 and beyond. No other smartphone manufacturer is going for small phones.

Apple relies on the 80/20 rule. They rake in 80% of the profits with only 20% of global unit sales. Sure, there's an untapped market for small devices, just as there's a market for $150 smartphones in India, rugged phones, and 6.95" phablets. Is it realistic for Apple to reach down to the small phone category, especially with their new focus on producing original content, especially TV content?
 
I’m just curious how the battery life would be on these phones if they were manufactured months back, like July/August and lithium ion batteries when depleted and stay depleted, is generally not good for the battery, sometimes they never recover. Curious to know what the battery life percentage was at for those who received a recent shipment. Any one provide feedback on this? (As I’m sure others would be interested in knowing as well).

I recently purchased an unlocked pre-paid iPhone SE 32GB on Ebay, thinking I wouldn't be lucky enough to score one direct from Apple (Oops). Anyway, based on the Serial Number it was manufactured in Feb 2018 so it has been sitting for a year and the Battery Health is at 100%
 
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It's looks like there's a difference this time. While prior units were sim-less and unlocked, these all come with a sim card even though they are unlocked.
 
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I’m just curious how the battery life would be on these phones if they were manufactured months back, like July/August and lithium ion batteries when depleted and stay depleted, is generally not good for the battery, sometimes they never recover. Curious to know what the battery life percentage was at for those who received a recent shipment. Any one provide feedback on this? (As I’m sure others would be interested in knowing as well).

The one I bought from Apple the other day was manufactured in August 2018 and still at 100% battery capacity.

I had previously purchased a 64 gig model from eBay about 6 months ago and that one was clearly sitting on a shelf for 2 years. Manufactured in summer 2016 and seemed brand new when I opened it. Battery health was down to 90% with zero cycles. It has stayed at 90% with normal usage over the last 6 months. Once the 64 gig model dies I will switch to the 128 gig from Apple that I just bought.
 
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Perhaps I was too literal with the everyone and everywhere statement. But every industry forecast predicts phablets will be the mainstream device for 2019 and beyond. No other smartphone manufacturer is going for small phones.

Apple relies on the 80/20 rule. They rake in 80% of the profits with only 20% of global unit sales. Sure, there's an untapped market for small devices, just as there's a market for $150 smartphones in India, rugged phones, and 6.95" phablets. Is it realistic for Apple to reach down to the small phone category, especially with their new focus on producing original content, especially TV content?

But the thing is, I grew up on the science fiction that said amazing technology will keep getting smaller and smaller.

I never imagined it would reverse itself and people would be walking around with flatscreen TV next to their head. By choice.
 
yes, apples finally released a giant selection of colors and gb sizes. i currently have a 64 gb gold SE. really wanted a space gray at the time, but they were not available. now available in 128 gb size, i decided to order one (store pick up, so no shipping or tax; thank you nh!).

of course, only real difference between the two is color and gb size (plus new vs not). i might try to sell my gold one to a family member if i choose to keep the gray.

i assume they are returnable?
 
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