Neither have content as good as Disney.
I’ve realized lately Netflix literally has like 2 good things.
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I’ve realized lately Netflix literally has like 2 good things.
This is going to be great. Awesome pricing and awesome library of content.
It's kinda ridiculous that Bob Iger feels like he has to censor Dumbo for the Disney+ though. It's such a classic film, and he's got no business removing scenes from it.
It's kinda ridiculous that Bob Iger feels like he has to censor Dumbo for the Disney+ though. It's such a classic film, and he's got no business removing scenes from it.
They would need to start producing content for the mature audience if they want to overtake Netflix.
I’ve certainly reconsidered just buying individual shows that I care to keep up with from iTunes (back to the early 2000’s). Original content is where I am tied to an extent but there’s nothing stopping binge and cancel. Stranger Things and Mindhunter are great (to me) and Castle Rock was fun... but you need to stream them. Or could just stop the mind numbing and go the podcast route for entertainment.
Man in the High Castle, Marvelous Mrs. Maise (which I absolutely adore), Carnivale Row, The Expanse, The Tick, Amazon Boutique Movies they've been producing, Jack Ryan, The Boys, Good Omens, Goliath, Bosch, an upcoming Big Budget Lord of the Rings Series, Hannah, yeah. Amazon Prime, "Hahahah What?"
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I've gone on a TV Show buying spree lately because I think $20 for a complete season of stuff like Breaking Bad, Cheers, Heroes, West Wing, etc is an amazing deal. But put things in perspective, back in the day Season Box Sets of ONE show, one season could easily be $60 now you pay $70 a year for a service and you have access to not only your favorite show but a heck of a lot more stuff. That's a deal to me.
Netflix has been able to run away with the ball with practically zero competition up till now.
The real streaming wars now really begin.
That said, your countries has the weirdest internet rules. A data cap on home broadband? Seriously?!?
So true. I'm moving next week and need to decide on my cable options. My bandwidth only charges are $60 + $30 for Unlimited for 300 MBS, while for 2Gig connection with unlimited is $80. OR, I can get a 2 year deal where I get 300 MB Up/Down WITH Unlimited Service AND 300 Channels and ALL the movie channels, with free DVR Service for $105 and I get a $300 gift card. Which one do you think I'm going to choose? Especially considering most of the apps will be free with my TV Subscription and I don't have to watch crappy commercials with the upcoming season because I can DVR? So I'll have my TV, internet and 4 services CBS All Access, Prime, DC Universe and Disney+ because I can pay yrly, Netflix and I'll use the other $20 to switch between different ones and my monthly entertainment bill still stays below $180 a month. Not bad. I love TV, but for the most part I binge stuff on the weekends and watch little TV during the week. But I eventually to get stuff I like.
Precisely. Disney and NF are scratching different itches. The number of people that have watched Bird Box is probably close to 75 million or so. That's bonkers. Not bad for a film with a 19M budget. NF has huge brand loyalty and a track record of success with mature, original content that can't be matched by any other service to this point. Given how cheap it is to sub to a couple different streaming services, I don't really think most people are going to be choosing between the two if they happen to want the best of both worlds. An extra seven bucks a month bc you want to watch that star wars show on disney+ is nothing really.
Disney+ is not going to be hurt by NF, and NF is not going to be hurt by Disney+. The only thing that might really hurt NF is if someone like Hulu can put together a package of Live TV and no-ads On Demand (with better content than they have now) at a more palatable price tag than what they've got at the moment (which is basically the same price as cable but less reliable and more difficult to navigate).
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Not only a data cap, but it's super expensive and slow af compared to most other countries!
I’m still confused as to how Apple is going to have any catalog to launch with. 10 original shows is fine but they need some kind of movie back catalog if they’re going to charge more than $2.99 a month.
These original show budgets by all companies are so damn bloated too. Apple is spending 6 billion on original content but I’m not hearing of them acquiring any films or talent from the festival circuit. They’re reaching much higher to Spielberg and Oprah, etc. which is all fine and good but insanely expensive.
Spend 5 billion on that type of content but take 1 billion and give 2 million to 500 new / rising voices for 500 original movies.
Apple is spending 30 million per episode x 20 episodes on The Morning Show and I’m sure it will be good (it better be). But just to put that into perspective, you could make the movie Get Out six times for the price of 1 hour of that show. You could make David Lowery’s A Ghost Story 300 times for that same 1 hour.
I get that it’s probably their biggest tentpole, but I still can’t wrap my head around how a show set in a TV studio has twice the budget per ep as Game of Thrones.
These original show budgets by all companies are so damn bloated too. Apple is spending 6 billion on original content but I’m not hearing of them acquiring any films or talent from the festival circuit. They’re reaching much higher to Spielberg and Oprah, etc. which is all fine and good but insanely expensive.
Spend 5 billion on that type of content but take 1 billion and give 2 million to 500 new / rising voices for 500 original movies.
Apple is spending 30 million per episode x 20 episodes on The Morning Show and I’m sure it will be good (it better be). But just to put that into perspective, you could make the movie Get Out six times for the price of 1 hour of that show. You could make David Lowery’s A Ghost Story 300 times for that same 1 hour.
I get that it’s probably their biggest tentpole, but I still can’t wrap my head around how a show set in a TV studio has twice the budget per ep as Game of Thrones.
you must have inside information because Apple has not announced anything aside from teasing a few shows. Please share with us.
When I first heard about Disney's upcoming service, I was not all that interested as I mistakenly thought it was just going to be old Disney movies and kids shows like the Disney channel. As I learned more about the new content they are creating with Marvel and Star Wars spin offs, I am now very interested and $6.99 / month sounds like a great deal for this type of content. I am also very interested in Apple TV+ so I will likely be dropping Netflix when these two services launch. I have enjoyed Netflix for the past several years but even a lot of the new programming seems "old" - like recycled versions of previous shows.
Yet one had you locked into a long overpriced contract, and these, you can go month by month. Smart folks out there are rotating through the services which isn't hard to do at all.
This looks like one good deal.. even if the price hike is true,, four streams at the same time plus 4K.. (and i do like Disney content) *disclaimer*
I've used Hulu TV Beta briefly when it got announced and if Disney+ works the same way. "On Demand" would be uselss if ALL shows were not available. only some...
I guess that was just due to the plan i was on. But I don't think this is all that its gonna be...
Usually companies offer good deals at first, then once your hooked, they erode things. and change/move content availability to different plans,
...from experience
I've used Hulu TV Beta briefly when it got announced and if Disney+ works the same way. "On Demand" would be uselss if ALL shows were not available. only some...
I guess that was just due to the plan i was on. But I don't think this is all that its gonna be...
Usually companies offer good deals at first, then once your hooked, they erode things. and change/move content availability to different plans,
...from experience
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Having had almost all streaming services, my conclusion is all streaming services suffer the same problems: from a consumer perspective once you've seen all the good stuff things only get worse and quality rapidly declines. From a business perspective they must keep people hooked somehow or they just lose subscribers.
Netflix is throwing tons of money to average third party content to keep people busy with something to choose from (while doing some big series alas Stranger Things from time to time), while HBO tends to do quality stuff but in a much slower pace (so once you milk the catalogue, there's nothing left). Ironically that inmense catalog is what kept me in Netflix. I tend to put some documental or average "backgrounder" series to have something going on while working in my laptop, but they usually aren't interesting enough to draw too much of my attention.
Disney will be refreshing and succesful for sure, specially at that price tag with all the content from Marvel, Star Wars and Disney itself. But even with the massive quality catalog just give them some years till they end up having the same problem. In the end making a good series/movie takes months or even years, consuming it takes just a few hours so you can't keep up with the good stuff vs people's consuming pace.
I don’t get the point of Apple joining this. They are good at hardware products and better off staying there. So far I have seen nothing to make me more interested in Apple’s service than Disneys. I already subscribe to Netflix and HBO and honestly, shows with Jennifer Anniston aren’t too interesting (I think “Friends” was a dumbass show and am happy if I never even have to see a trailer for it). If she was playing a stripper I might care, but otherwise no.
This is why imo Apple chasing the Netflix model is not really a good idea. In the end, Apple will lose out to the real studios that own the content when they’re smart enough to do their own service. And making content is not cheap.
On the other hand, there’s an untapped potential of iCloud being a true competitor for Office 365, yet Apple seems to be ignoring it. When’s the last time we heard about iWorks on iCloud? Yet it was quite awesome when Apple demoed it back then.
On the other hand, there’s an untapped potential of iCloud being a true competitor for Office 365, yet Apple seems to be ignoring it. When’s the last time we heard about iWorks on iCloud? Yet it was quite awesome when Apple demoed it back then.
You think Disney is just princesses?
Go take a look at all the content they own. It ain’t just kids watching it.
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Apple has essentially no limit to what content they can buy/make. This game is all about money. As an example, Apple could buy all of Disney if they really wanted to.
On the other hand, Netflix has trouble paying the bills.
Obviously Netflix is in deeper trouble than Apple, but still, the money spent on this could’ve been spent on things that will push Apple into a better ecosystem, eg. Spend it on iCloud. Apple could’ve made a real Office 365 killer, and they were showing the potential (remember iWorks on iCloud?). But poof, they are trying to become content creator instead, competing with the likes of Disney. Plus, these content services will not be available in all markets anyway. So it’s like Apple pandering only to the US/western market. An improvement on iCloud on the other hand can be enjoyed by everyone globally.
Office 365 is devastatingly dominant. It’s literally a monopoly for all intents and purposes.
Content is still up in the air and best content wins. It makes sense for Apple to play in this because they have nearly unlimited money and over 1B active devices with screens and internet connections.
Maybe I'll drop the streaming part of my Netflix and add Disney+ instead. Will be holding on to my 2 Netflix Blu-Ray rental accounts as my primary source (with a cold steel grip!) as these streaming wars escalate.
How Comcast with its 1TB limit would work out with Disney+ with 4K? Should I be budgeting family internet traffic if you have a family watching shows constantly?
Which is why there’s an opportunity for disruption, especially for Apple users. Apple's claim of fame is integration between hardware and software. Investing in iCloud and iWorks will be beneficial for all global Apple users. Doing a Netflix-like service only serve few western markets where growth is minimal, and they cost a ton of money to do. Apple has a lot of money, but not unlimited. Imagine how great iCloud service could’ve been if the same amount of money and effort for this TV stuff were put in it.