DisplayMate: iPhone XS Max Has Best Smartphone Display Ever

[Baymowe335]

The 8 Plus has a "trash" 1080p display? That's not what Apple was saying last year.

I wasn't specifically referring to the 8 Plus. My point was not to get so caught up on 1080p as if all screens that are 1080P are better than lower resolution screens.

 

[WGACA]

Paid for marketing crap. The claim doesn't even hold up with their own scoring system. Compare the two side by side and see what I mean. Note 9 beats the Xs in more than 80% of all categories apart from 3:

*Brightness decrease under 30 degree angle (25% vs 27% Note 9)
*Color shift ( 0.1/0.3/0.8 vs 0.2/0.7/1.2 Note 9)
*Higher brightness manual mode

For the rest the iPhone Xs has:

*Lower PPI (458 vs 516)
*Higher reflectance (4.7/5.7 vs 4.4/5.6)
*Lower brightness in all categories apart from all white screen (725/695/766 vs 825/710/1050)
*Lower dynamic brightness (Good vs Excellent)
*Lower image contrast accuracy (very good vs excellent)
*Lower white color accuracy (0.4 vs 0.1 / lower is better)
*Lower color gamuth (103 vs 142)
*Lower color accuracy average color error(0.8 vs 0.5 / lower is better)
*Lower color accuracy largest color error (2.3 vs 1.2 / lower is better)
*Higher white point color shift (2.6 very good vs 1.3 excellent / lower is better)
*Higher Primary color shift (6.2 good vs 3.9 very good / lower is better)
*Higher color shift color mixtures (1.9 vs 1.8)
*Less power efficiency in all catergories (2.2/ 1.8/4.2/3.3 watt vs 1.1/1.25/2.10/2.13 watt)

All the categories are even green on the Note 9 while iPhone Xs has 2 yellow boxes meaning it performed lower/average.

I'm sorry, but how could Displaymate call the Xs a better display exactly?? It seriously seems Apple paid Displaymate to market the Xs despite the fact the results both on paper and in real life(look up youtube comparisons) tell a different story. Very dirty marketing this.

 

[FFR]

Paid for marketing crap. The claim doesn't even hold up with their own scoring system. Compare the two side by side and see what I mean. Note 9 beats the Xs in more than 80% of all categories apart from 3:

*Brightness decrease under 30 degree angle (25% vs 27% Note 9)
*Color shift ( 0.1/0.3/0.8 vs 0.2/0.7/1.2 Note 9)
*Higher brightness manual mode

For the rest the iPhone Xs has:

*Lower PPI (458 vs 516)
*Higher reflectance (4.7/5.7 vs 4.4/5.6)
*Lower brightness in all categories apart from all white screen (725/695/766 vs 825/710/1050)
*Lower dynamic brightness (Good vs Excellent)
*Lower image contrast accuracy (very good vs excellent)
*Lower white color accuracy (0.4 vs 0.1 / lower is better)
*Lower color gamuth (103 vs 142)
*Lower color accuracy average color error(0.8 vs 0.5 / lower is better)
*Lower color accuracy largest color error (2.3 vs 1.2 / lower is better)
*Higher white point color shift (2.6 very good vs 1.3 excellent / lower is better)
*Higher Primary color shift (6.2 good vs 3.9 very good / lower is better)
*Higher color shift color mixtures (1.9 vs 1.8)
*Less power efficiency in all catergories (2.2/ 1.8/4.2/3.3 watt vs 1.1/1.25/2.10/2.13 watt)

All the categories are even green on the Note 9 while iPhone Xs has 2 yellow boxes meaning it performed lower/average.

I'm sorry, but how could Displaymate call the Xs a better display exactly?? It seriously seems Apple paid Displaymate to market the Xs despite the fact the results both on paper and in real life(look up youtube comparisons) tell a different story. Very dirty marketing this.

Random first post.

But put both side by side and you will see why display mate, claimed the iPhone Xs max has a better display.

 

[kazmac]

Tune in next month as Pixel 3 will probably take over this slot.

This doesn’t mean much to me anymore. As long as I can read or watch content without eye strain on my computer or device, I am good.

 

[WGACA]

Random first post.

But put both side by side and you will see why display mate, claimed the iPhone Xs max has a better display.

Random? I've actually taken the effort to check them side by side and yeah according to their own scoring, the Note 9 is indeed better. The fact Ray Soneira says something different is beyond me and I can only guess he's been paid to say it, all the while forgetting to make the results match accordingly. And here's a real world a side by side:

5:20. Enjoy

 

[FFR]

Random? I've actually taken the effort to check them side by side and yeah according to their own scoring, the Note 9 is indeed better. The fact Ray Soneira says something different is beyond me and I can only guess he's been paid to say it, all the while forgetting to make the results match accordingly. And here's a real world a side by side:

5:20. Enjoy

That’s because he turned down the brightness Xs.

You can check yourself.

 

[WGACA]

What am I even looking at? These are all test that have nothing to do with the screen. God knows what settings these were on. And besides, the same would then apply in these videos?

Just read the damn Displaymate reports yourself. What Ray Soneira says doesn't even match his own test results which is just embarrassing and very see-through. All categories are green on the Note 9, however the iPhone Xs has two yellow. I'll help you:

Note 9:
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That’s because he turned down the brightness Xs.

You can check yourself.

iPhine X's:

 

[WGACA]

That’s because he turned down the brightness Xs.

You can check yourself.

Besides, you do know the Note 9 has 4 different display modes to choose from in settings, right? All with their own characteristics: Adaptive, Cinema, Photo and Basic. Basic is what you'd see on the iPhone. Adaptive is the default setting on the Note 9 which is more contrasty and saturation. You don't have these options on the iPhone, do you?

 

[FFR]

What am I even looking at? These are all test that have nothing to do with the screen. God knows what settings these were on. And besides, the same would then apply in these videos?

Just read the damn Displaymate reports yourself. What Ray Soneira says doesn't even match his own test results which is just embarrassing and very see-through. All categories are green on the Note 9, however the iPhone Xs has two yellow. I'll help you:

Note 9:
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iPhine X's:

Your looking at the galaxy note 9 display against the iPhone X’s max.

None of the other videos posted mirrors the one you posted.

It’s pretty black and white.

 

[WGACA]

Your looking at the galaxy note 9 display against the iPhone X’s max.

None of the other videos posted mirrors the one you posted.

It’s pretty black and white.

Have you read the reviews or not? If not, you're better off not replying anymore. If so, care to elaborate on the results? Even if you don't feel like reading them, just glancing at them will tell you the Note 9 is better, as it has every category green while iPhone X has 2 yellow...

There really is no arguing here. Note 9 has a better, more versatile, more immersive and eye-catching display.

 

[FFR]

Have you read the reviews or not? If not, you're better off not replying anymore. If so, care to elaborate on the results? Even if you don't feel like reading them, just glancing at them will tell you the Note 9 is better, as it has every category green while iPhone X has 2 yellow...


There really is no arguing here. Note 9 has a better, more versatile, more immersive and eye-catching display.

That’s what you keep claiming, but according to you display mate is contradicting itself.

The one video you posted showed a iPhone X’s screen to be less bright than the galaxy note 9.

Every other video I have posted shows otherwise, but dismissed them and are falling back on the display mate article the same one you claim to be contradictory.


Don’t really know but your coming off as pretty disingenuous.


Looking at the brightness results from display mate compared to the only one video you posted seems extremely misleading:

iPhone Xs

Galaxy note 9

Looks pretty black and white just like the videos I posted.


So are you trying to be disengenous with the one video you posted and dismissing all of the videos I posted?

As a new member that just registered 2 hours ago, your posts seem suspicious.

But I’m sure you can explain yourself.

 

[WGACA]

That’s what you keep claiming, but according to you display mate is contradicting itself.

The one video you posted showed a iPhone X’s screen to be less bright than the galaxy note 9.

Every other video I have posted shows otherwise, but dismissed them and are falling back on the display mate article the same one you claim to be contradictory.


Don’t really know but your coming off as pretty disingenuous.


Looking at the brightness results from display mate compared to the only one video you posted seems extremely misleading:

iPhone Xs

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Galaxy note 9
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Looks pretty black and white just like the videos I posted.


So are you trying to be disengenous with the one video you posted and dismissing all of the videos I posted?

As a new member that just registered 2 hours ago, your posts seem suspicious.

But I’m sure you can explain yourself.

So because I'm a new member I'm not supposed to question suspicious statements that are not lining up with results in their own testing? Why? Cause I'm not following blindly what Apple or Displaymate's frontman (that hasn't done the testing himself) says? I think you are the one 'disengenous'... Whatever that means as it's not an English word. I think you mean disingenuous, but anyway. Better not use fancy words if you don't know how to spell them?

Anyway, your videos don't mean anything as all these tests are run on limited set brightness like 250 cd/m². That's even mentioned before they run the tests. So nice try but no, not in the slightest a valid argument. Next to that it is not mentioned what display mode the Note 9 is on. So another reason your argument goes completely flat.

The boxes you highlighted by the way are manual brightness mode brightness and for white only. It is correct that white is brighter on the iPhone X's But guess what, you'd almost think Samsung knows what they're doing after developing OLED for 10 years. White is most damaging to OLED screens (burn in, battery drain). Everybody owning a Samsung has it's display in auto brightness, adjusting to prevailing conditions. For indoor brightness 400 cd/m² is more than enough. Anything higher will hurt your eyes, especially in lower light. When brightness matters is outside in direct sunlight and in auto brightness, the Note 9 becomes way brighter than the iPhone Xs. Also this is highlighted in comparisons and stated in the Displaymate test results. This already was the case with the first X and brightness hasn't gone up by a great margin on the X. So nice try defending again, but rather fruitless.

 

[WGACA]

That’s what you keep claiming, but according to you display mate is contradicting itself.

The one video you posted showed a iPhone X’s screen to be less bright than the galaxy note 9.

Every other video I have posted shows otherwise, but dismissed them and are falling back on the display mate article the same one you claim to be contradictory.


Don’t really know but your coming off as pretty disingenuous.


Looking at the brightness results from display mate compared to the only one video you posted seems extremely misleading:

iPhone Xs

View attachment 789753
Galaxy note 9
View attachment 789752


Looks pretty black and white just like the videos I posted.


So are you trying to be disengenous with the one video you posted and dismissing all of the videos I posted?

As a new member that just registered 2 hours ago, your posts seem suspicious.

But I’m sure you can explain yourself.

The word is now out exposing this Displaymate scam:

Told you.

 

[mi7chy]

Can't blame Displaymate since there's no money to be made doing honest scientific display comparisons when it's much more profitable to adopt JD Power's marketing disguised as research scheme.

 

[Applemaniac7]

It’s impressive that Apple can be one of the top players in the screen department when they haven’t had a class leading display since the days of the 4 and 4S. They’ve caught up in a big way.

They still havnt, DM have awarded most of the category wins to the note 9, then forgot how to count and awarded the crown to the xs, most bizarre....

 

[MrUNIMOG]

They still havnt, DM have awarded most of the category wins to the note 9, then forgot how to count and awarded the crown to the xs, most bizarre....

Yes they have, if I'm not mistaken the X last year had a display that was class-leading in many categories when it came out.
And as far as Macs are concerned, their displays have been among the very best for years.

 

[FFR]

The word is now out exposing this Displaymate scam:

Told you.

Be honest was that you in the video?

So does this mean the displaymate review of the note 9 is also a sham? this is certainly getting confusing as You were just praising it yesterday.

Or was this not you?

Have you read the reviews or not? If not, you're better off not replying anymore. If so, care to elaborate on the results? Even if you don't feel like reading them, just glancing at them will tell you the Note 9 is better, as it has every category green while iPhone X has 2 yellow...

There really is no arguing here. Note 9 has a better, more versatile, more immersive and eye-catching display.

Care to list the reasons stated in your video or should I?
Let me help you by starting.
Because of HTC

 

[Khedron]

Yes they have, if I'm not mistaken the X last year had a display that was class-leading in many categories when it came out.

Certainly class-leading in crippling headaches

 

[MrUNIMOG]

Certainly class-leading in crippling headaches

You're getting headaches from looking at an iPhone X display?

 

[Khedron]

You're getting headaches from looking at an iPhone X display?

https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/7uv6m3/iphone_x_uses_pulse_width_modulation_which_is_a/

 

[MrUNIMOG]

https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/7uv6m3/iphone_x_uses_pulse_width_modulation_which_is_a/

Oh, because of the PWM. Well, that's bad for you and a very unlucky few.
However there's almost no OLED phone which doesn't use PWM, and if it doesn't and purely regulates brightness through voltage, that brings other issues with it.

With the iPhone X though, PWM should only be apparent even to very sensitive people at very low brightness levels.

https://blog.elcomsoft.com/2018/03/...to-stop-oled-flickering-in-just-three-clicks/

It's a bit like people with some skin condition who can't use Touch ID, it's bad for a very small minority, but really no reason to be mad at Apple. Except if your reasoning is "if I can't have a nice thing, everyone shouldn't"..

By the way, most Mac LCDs also use PWM at very high frequency.

 

[FFR]

Oh, because of the PWM. Well, that's bad for you and a very unlucky few.
However there's almost no OLED phone which doesn't use PWM, and if it doesn't and purely regulates brightness through voltage, that brings other issues with it.

With the iPhone X though, PWM should only be apparent even to very sensitive people at very low brightness levels.

https://blog.elcomsoft.com/2018/03/...to-stop-oled-flickering-in-just-three-clicks/

It's a bit like people with some skin condition who can't use Touch ID, it's bad for a very small minority, but really no reason to be mad at Apple. Except if your reasoning is "if I can't have a nice thing, everyone shouldn't"..

By the way, most Mac LCDs also use PWM at very high frequency.

Judging by their past posts, it would be difficult to believe that they actually picked up an iPhone let alone bought one.

 

[I7guy]

Can't blame Displaymate since there's no money to be made doing honest scientific display comparisons when it's much more profitable to adopt JD Power's marketing disguised as research scheme.

Guess the same would apply to dxomark.

 

[symphony]

I’m surprised they managed to get an iPhone XS with the greatest display ever, it seems the chances for a customer to find the best display is like winning a lottery.

My iPhone X last year had the best display ever. It must be the launch units that had near perfect displays as my iPhone XS Max was on par with my iPhone X.

After downsizing recently, all my iPhone XS models don’t compare to last year’s display. I have swapped devices 7 times and they’re all the same. Gotten them at 2 different Apple Stores, at different dates, yet I’ve received nothing but dimmed yellow-tinted displays with harsh True Tone calibrations, as well as black levels being very washed out in comparison (muring colors too when brightness levels go down). Very disappointed.

 

[mib1800]

Did Displaymate just awarded pixel 3 having A+ rating and given "Best Smartphone Display"?

Does it mean that xs max "Best Smartphone Display" is now more lousy than pixel 3 "Best Smartphone Display"?