DisplayMate: iPhone XS Max Has Best Smartphone Display Ever

[jamesrick80]

Samsung S9 and Note 9 are green in ALL AREAS....the true best smartphone displays but you guys should thank Samsung for supplying yours on the Xs and Xs Max which is green in some areas but gets the same grade SMH payolla....

 

[mib1800]

This is what I called deceptive and sensationalized headline.

The truth is this: XSM is a top display but still doesnt match Note9 (in terms of peak brightness, color gamut, color accuracy, color shift, sharpness. I didnt make these up. Go compare XSM and Note9 scores in displaymate.

 

[The Game 161]

Yet....the xs and xs max still ranked over the note 9...

And they say apple have fanboys lol

The fact you went into such efforts to post that shows you care too much about what display mate says.

 

[alemany]

Yet....the xs and xs max still ranked over the note 9...

And they say apple have fanboys lol

The fact you went into such efforts to post that shows you care too much about what display mate says.

Wrong little dude. I just like to read and be crystal clear on things, any. And the fact that Mac Rumors says "DisplayMate: iPhone XS Max Has Best Smartphone Display Ever" and didn't compared it with any of the competition (just mentioned 'competition') didn't get you curious? Well I do, and what was my surprise to see the same reviewer discovering higher benchmark numbers in the Note9.

Another thing, the best display is based on its brightness intensity? Only that? How about pixel density?

This is just facts bro.

 

[The Game 161]

Wrong little dude. I just like to read and be crystal clear on things, any. And the fact that Mac Rumors says "DisplayMate: iPhone XS Max Has Best Smartphone Display Ever" and didn't compared it with any of the competition (just mentioned 'competition') didn't get you curious? Well I do, and what was my surprise to see the same reviewer discovering higher benchmark numbers in the Note9.

Another thing, the best display is based on its brightness intensity? Only that? How about pixel density?

This is just facts bro.

They didn’t need to compare them as they had already tested the note 9 before the max was even out. Since max was out after saying it’s the best display ever would suggest it’s better than the note 9

But really who cares? Both have great displays and for the average person wouldn’t tell much difference between either.

I swear this display mate just gives the title to the newest phone out...

 

[Blaze4G]

Props to Apple. But something doesn't add up with Display Mates statements and tests. Screenshot below:

1. They stated XS Max match / sets record for Absolute Color Accuracy which is false. Note 9 is .5, Xs Max is .8.
2. Screen brightness is higher on Note 9. Although this is because of Samsung High Brightness mode. However, I don't think this should be a negative. Samsung enables high brightness in direct sunlight or when it detects a lot of light.
3. Contrast rating for Note 9 is 161 which is more than Max Xs at 140. (again due to high brightness mode).
4. They said the Max Xs has the lowest screen reflectance ever at 4.7% but they measure the Note 9 at 4.4%.

A lot of inconsistencies. If you dig deeper there is a few more.

Not trying to knock the Xs. It has 1 of if not the best displays currently. But DisplayMate made blatant errors.

 

[alemany]

They didn’t need to compare them as they had already tested the note 9 before the max was even out. Since max was out after saying it’s the best display ever would suggest it’s better than the note 9

But really who cares? Both have great displays and for the average person wouldn’t tell much difference between either.

I swear this display mate just gives the title to the newest phone out...

Bro, seriously, DisplayMate just did a great deep dive as they usually do. It was Mac Rumors which went the sensationalized headline. You can't say it's the best ever when there's a phone with better numbers just a month early.

We agree, however, that both are insane phones and people should be happy with their option.

I prefer Pixel

 

[The Game 161]

Bro, seriously, DisplayMate just did a great deep dive as they usually do. It was Mac Rumors which went the sensationalized headline. You can't say it's the best ever when there's a phone with better numbers just a month early.

We agree, however, that both are insane phones and people should be happy with their option.

I prefer Pixel

I didn’t even read the article in fairness. It just annoys me seeing these display mate ratings when it’s normally the newest one out that gets rated better. If people think more 9 has better display I wouldn’t mind as both are stunning display

I’m sure pixel 3 for example will have the best ever score for camera again after somebody over took it this year

 

[Feenician]

And the fact that Mac Rumors says "DisplayMate: iPhone XS Max Has Best Smartphone Display Ever"

Macrumors didn’t say anything. They quoted Displaymate. That what’s the little curly things at each end are. Quotes.

 

[raghu8912]

What

pages and pages of macrumors members would disagree with displaymate's findings.

isnt it odd how testers never seem to get a junk display? Sure there are millions and millions of good units, but seems their chances of getting a bad one wouldn't exactly be that low either. you can walk into any store at any time and find poor display units anywhere.

% of iPhone Xs Max screens are defective ? just guess, 50%, 40% ? 30% ?
even if it is 20% probability of some one finding a defective screen is low, especially where there are not many display units, and display units are not for sale, how can they get known defective unit for review ?

 

[mib1800]

Macrumors didn’t say anything. They quoted Displaymate. That what’s the little curly things at each end are. Quotes.

Displaymate quotes:

"Based on our extensive Lab Tests and Measurements the iPhone XS Max receives our DisplayMate Best Smartphone Display Award earning DisplayMate’s highest ever A+ grade by providing considerably better display performance than other competing Smartphones."


Based on our extensive Lab Tests and Measurements, the Galaxy Note9 has an Impressive Display that establishes many new Display Performance Records, earning DisplayMate’s Best Performing Smartphone Display Award, and receiving our highest ever A+ grade.

 

[raghu8912]

You mean from Samsung, right?

Not necessarily, display quality is not just display itself, graphics driver, display driver software, calibration affect display, and I am sure Apple is not using off the shelf display from Samsung, Apple is working with Samsung to make a display with specifications provided by Apple.

 

[Feenician]

Displaymate quotes:

"Based on our extensive Lab Tests and Measurements the iPhone XS Max receives our DisplayMate Best Smartphone Display Award earning DisplayMate’s highest ever A+ grade by providing considerably better display performance than other competing Smartphones."


Based on our extensive Lab Tests and Measurements, the Galaxy Note9 has an Impressive Display that establishes many new Display Performance Records, earning DisplayMate’s Best Performing Smartphone Display Award, and receiving our highest ever A+ grade.

And? You realise the first quote happened further along the little dimension we call time, right? The leapfrog will likely happen again too when Samsung release their next flagship. It’s ok. Samsung will be ok without you denying a temporary reality. Deep breaths.

 

[mib1800]

And? You realise the first quote happened further along the little dimension we call time, right? The leapfrog will likely happen again too when Samsung release their next flagship. It’s ok. Samsung will be ok without you denying a temporary reality. Deep breaths.

Really? You DON'T see displaymate saying XS Max screen "establishes many new Display Performance Records". Cause it didnt

 

[Feenician]

Really? You DON'T see displaymate saying XS Max screen "establishes many new Display Performance Records". Cause it didnt

No, I see it saying

earning DisplayMate’s highest ever A+ grade by providing considerably better display performance than other competing Smartphones."

The English language is funny like that. You can express similar notions in different ways.

Chill. Samsung’s sterling work on OLED turned it from sub-standard to superior (in most regards) to LCD in just a few short years. You can be sure they’re down in the engine room cooking up ways to top this and I for one wouldn’t bet against them.

 

[rom3o]

Not exactly. They were the best at the time. Technology progresses.

Still technically wrong, since I already gave you an example of older technology that is superior to the current model in certain aspects (screen reflectance, peak brightness and as smbd. else mentioned even more test criteria where the X/XS were in fact not the best though receiving the best overall test result at the time of their release).

Therefore by definition those displays are exceptionally good but they aren’t ‘perfect’ (=the best possible at the time).

 

[0947347]

Considering I'm an engineer, I probably do and you don't need to be so smug.

You can say there are millions and millions of good units, but there are also millions and millions of bad units. Probability be damned, reviewers never, and I mean never, not once, in ten years of watching reviews have complained about a single screen. The screens are either hand-picked, or the reviewers are paid off to not say anything negative. Walk into any store and you can find junk display units, so there are probably a lot more bad ones out there than people realize, because the average consumer buying a phone doesn't even think about it or notice it or look for it - doesn't mean it's not there. It's likely just underreported.

I see, so if they check before giving it to reviewer, that they don’t get them a faulty unit, it is a bad thing. OK then.

sarcasm

 

[BvizioN]

That can't be right. I keep reading on here that everything apple does is horrible, and the Max is nothing but a rip-off money grab.

That's because you are in MacRumors site. Negativity and unhappiness is at the very core of this forum.

 

[Shanghaichica]

No, I see it saying



The English language is funny like that. You can express similar notions in different ways.

Chill. Samsung’s sterling work on OLED turned it from sub-standard to superior (in most regards) to LCD in just a few short years. You can be sure they’re down in the engine room cooking up ways to top this and I for one wouldn’t bet against them.

Their lcds were not sub standard. The LCDs on the plus models were rated as the best lcds on a smartphone ever by DisplayMate.

 

[Feenician]

Their lcds were not sub standard. The LCDs on the plus models were rated as the best lcds on a smartphone ever by DisplayMate.

I think you might have misread my post. I was saying that OLED was substandard (the word pentile was a deathknell for the screen part of a phone review for a long time) and that LCD remained superior for quite a while. It still is in some regards, viewing angle for one. Samsung invested a lot of time and money and basically won though. Samsung OLED is the gold standard. That’s all I was saying.

 

[Shanghaichica]

I think you might have misread my post. I was saying that OLED was substandard (the word pentile was a deathknell for the screen part of a phone review for a long time) and that LCD remained superior for quite a while. It still is in some regards, viewing angle for one. Samsung invested a lot of time and money and basically won though. Samsung OLED is the gold standard. That’s all I was saying.

No Samsung’s displays weren’t substandard. They were getting rated best display on a smartphone for some time before the X cane out. Everything takes time to mature.

 

[Feenician]

No Samsung’s displays weren’t substandard. They were getting rated best display on a smartphone for some time before the X cane out. Everything takes time to mature.

I’m not sure what your beef is.

First, you say my post saying that OLED became superior is somehow disparaging Apple’s LCDs, which it wasn’t. And, if you check my post history for the day I’ve made posts to the contrary. OLED was garbage when Samsung picked it up and everyone but Samsung’s mobile(this part is important) is still pretty garbage.

Now, you’re saying I somehow implied that Samsung’s OLED wasn’t superior for some time, when I clearly said the opposite.

It’s pretty weird because I think we’re agreeing and you think we’re not

 

[Ramchi]

My advice: Don't pay any attention to any of these "reviews". Go to a store & play with the thing yourself & make up your own mind. (and don't pre order next time around).

Exactly! I have raised this point in another thread but usual Apple branding slogan came as the response which is not an issue for me, but think about people just throwing big bucks in pre-orders without getting an opportunity to see it, test it for themselves.... Now they complain about WiFi, VoLTE, Display issues same thing happening every year

 

[JayIsAwesome]

The XS Max display is beautiful. Kudos to Apple and Samsung. But I’m pretty sure the S10 will be the next “best display ever” phone

 

[Shanghaichica]

Exactly! I have raised this point in another thread but usual Apple branding slogan came as the response which is not an issue for me, but think about people just throwing big bucks in pre-orders without getting an opportunity to see it, test it for themselves.... Now they complain about WiFi, VoLTE, Display issues same thing happening every year

Most of the issues you are talking about are difficult to test out in a store. Also when all phones come out a small number of units will have an issue regardless of the manufacturer.