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I absolutely can't wait for this. I'm curious to see how they would price these as well as the processors. I'm also hoping for 16GB BTO options for my VMs :D. I've been on the edge of pulling the trigger on the 15" retina but I'd trade the power for portability and saving a bit of cash. I'd be doing mostly coding anyway.
 
Now cut those wafers for 13" as 4 times bigger and you get 5120x2880 27" panel.

Sell it as new Thunderbolt Retina Display and I'm gonna get one as soon. Gonna pair it to my next Thunderbolt gaming box + MBA and I'd drool over it anyday. :D

You MBA won't be able to use the retina thunderbolt display, probably.

Maybe the gaming box gives you that power -- Radeon 7000 series can support a maximum of six 2560*1600 displays, that's 7680*3200, OMG

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Ivy is just a die shrink of Sandy Bridge. Core i7 3770K is only 100MHz faster than 2600K

Haswell is a new architecture, but do not expect much from the CPU. Its GPU may become much better, which is good for MBA and MBP13.

What are the significant difference between Sandy, Ivy and Haswell?
 
Will Intel processors that come out next year - tic or toc - be a larger improvement that what came out this year? Next year will be 2 years for my current MBP, and I am finished with my last degree so a 13" will work fine for me. I'm not sure if I have spoiled myself with hard drive space and RAM. I will be able to buy what I have now, but it will be $$$$$
 
You MBA won't be able to use the retina thunderbolt display, probably.

Maybe the gaming box gives you that power -- Radeon 7000 series can support a maximum of six 2560*1600 displays, that's 7680*3200, OMG

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Ivy is just a die shrink of Sandy Bridge. Core i7 3770K is only 100MHz faster than 2600K

Haswell is a new architecture, but do not expect much from the CPU. Its GPU may become much better, which is good for MBA and MBP13.

According to Wiki the Haswell would have 3 types of integrated GPU, GT1, GT2 and GT3. However I don't think we could get GT3 on the mobile CPU, esp. the ULP ones.:p
 
If this article pans out it look like that in 2013 the MacBook Family will comprise of 4 machines:

11"Retina MacBook Air
13" Retina MacBook Air
13" Retina Macbook Pro
15" Retina MacBook Pro

With all 4 only haviing SSD only and all with no optical drive and Ethernet.

Personally, I'm ok with that since I own the Retina 15" Macbook Pro. But I've read a lot of people prefer the legacy stuff still and find having the choice of Classic and Retina a good thing.

What's gonna happen when that choice is eliminated next year?

They'll just have no choice but to deal with it :cool:

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hmm.i would prefer to see retina on the air. macbook pros are to heavy.

I think that's where Apple will head and once they accomplish that I think that the Pro's will take on this design style 4-5 years from now when Apple "introduces the 4th generation Macbook Pro".
 
You MBA won't be able to use the retina thunderbolt display, probably.

Maybe the gaming box gives you that power -- Radeon 7000 series can support a maximum of six 2560*1600 displays, that's 7680*3200, OMG

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Yeah, current MBA probably won't be able to feed into that kind of resolution. Maybe in a year or two, that's why I'm gonna plan it for my next upgrade. And current Thunderbolt PC mainboards still unable to utilize discrete GPU for video source yet.

It's gonna take a while, but I can see that happening.
 
Cool, but when are your non 480+ day new iMacs going into production?! :eek:
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Looks like a new 13 inch retina for my wife:)
And when the iMac comes out replace my iMac that can't (maybe luckily) upgrade from Lion.
The 15 inch retina ML wifi was crazy:mad: till 10.8.1 came on, and now for it is staying on so I can actually do work on it, rather than it being a brick. :)
 
I wonder if the move to custom memory/ssd modules will allow them room for a quad and dedicated graphics. If so, this will be very exciting. If not, and they keep the price in the same ballpark, they'll still sell a ton of these rigs.
 
I'm very desperate for a new laptop (running a once-beautiful, now-salvaged 15'' santa rosa) and I've been waiting so patiently to pull the trigger on a 13'' retina of any kind.

Would it be foolish of me to go with Ivy Bridge?

The more I read, the more I feel I NEED to wait for Haswell.


But then again, when Haswell arrives, I'm sure I'll convince myself I need to wait for what's next.

As for most Apple users, this is quite an investment for me, and I def plan on keeping my next laptop for a minimum of 2 years.

So is it really worth waiting for Haswell? Would I be making a big mistake by going with Ivy B?

Is there anyone who can explain the real difference to me "for dummies"? What noticeable differences will I encounter?

The "leaked" Intel roadmap I have seen indicates March '13 as the expected date for Haswell. Presuming that Intel can actually deliver on that, will Apple be prepared for it? (The delays in delivering the Ivy Bridge CPUs were process/tri-gate related issues that should be resolved by now, but will Intel try to "milk" all the revenue they can from Ivy Bridge or simply move them down the ladder?)

Haswell is supposed to be a completely new architecture using the Ivy Bridge process. There is not a lot of information at this point about how it is proceeding in development, but one of the design objectives of Haswell is reduced power demand.

The question is, how long can you wait? Will your present machine meet your needs until Haswell comes along? There is always something newer and better on the horizon. I am facing a similar situation. No matter what I get now, it will be much more capable than my current hardware. I hope we will soon get some insight into the likelihood of Apple delivering a Haswell based 13" MBP next March. The alternative may be that I have to go ahead and get something next month and see what develops next year.

Cheers
 
…."Simultaneously supports full native resolution on the built-in display and up to 2560 by 1600 pixels on an external display, both at millions of colors"

But on an internal display, and only on a 13-inch ??... You eyes would hurt,,,,, "just not as much" as the Retina reading text.

Just want we need. More squinting, plus "thow-away" Macs….

You do understand that at the Retina resolution, it will have the virtual pixel representation of 1280x800, likely to max out at 1680x1060 at highest scaled resolution option. It will not have a 2560x1600 panel representation, just like there isn't one on the 15" rMBP.

There won't be any squinting involved.
 
Trying to understand pricing here. On the 15" MBA...

- Replacing the HD with an SSD add $500.
- Adding 4GB of memory adds $100

But the rMBA is only $400 more than than the legacy MBA, meaning upgrading the screen to retina costs -$200.

Actually almost every notebook model Apple has ends up at that magic $2199 (or close) when you try to make it "like" the new Retnia MacBook Pro. I noticed that the first day they posted the price list. Even the cheapest 13" MacBook Pro like you said has big premiums to get the SSD and more RAM.

Apple REALLY wants you to buy the Retnia MacBook Pro, that's why they dropped the 17" to not confuse us.
 
Trying to understand pricing here. On the 15" MBA...

- Replacing the HD with an SSD add $500.
- Adding 4GB of memory adds $100

But the rMBA is only $400 more than than the legacy MBA, meaning upgrading the screen to retina costs -$200.

You should make that -$80. The Legacy MBP comes with a built-in Ethernet port, a FireWire 800 port, and a built-in Optical drive. To compare Apples to uh, Apples, you need to include the cost of those optional items in the price of the base rMBP.
 
It's really not looking good for the iMac :/

All it needs is a spec bump!

Come on Apple!
 
I'm thinking that the price points of the 13" MBPR will be $1499 for the 2.5 Ghz i5 and $1899 for the 2.9Ghz i7.

This is based on the current 15" MBP/MBPR pricing relationship. That is, the low end MBPR is the same price as the high end MBP, and the high end MBPR is 27% more expensive (2799/2199) than the low end MBPR. So the 13" MBP should be $1499 and 1499*1.27=1903 or pretty much $1899.
 
Def wants!

Having had an MBA I've become addicted to lightweight. So really looking forward to the 13" retina MBP, and hoping it will nudge down around 1.5kg. If it does, i'm in!
 
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