Do any current Apple watch owners feel cheated?

[lsh]

I have a SS38 series 1 day 1. Since Apple fully supports the OS with OS3 and it's more than a year for the upgrade, I don't feel cheated. It sounds like OS3 makes it even better.
I do wish there was the option to buy without a band since I already have a few and they are the same form. Luckily, I was considering the leather brown anyway.
I wish there was an upgrade channel and longer upgrade cycle with better distinction of features. I don't have the moxie for eBay or Craig's list.

 

[mox358]

I got my watch on day 1, and I can't say I feel cheated at all. Between the watchOS 3 update and the minor nature of the series 2 upgrade I've definitely gotten my money's worth

 

[macdragonfl]

I got it as a present... anyway..... ceramic edition is veri appealing....

hoping it is released in black by the time i upgrade!

 

[daijholt]

They re-release the iPhone in the same form factor with a faster processor every other year (in a S-type update). How's this any different?

I think he means the fact that anyone who bought the original Apple Watch might now feel cheated that they've upgraded just the processor while they have to stick with the inferior version of the same thing.

And rightly so...if they'd bought it in the last month.

For anyone that bought it 18 months ago, I'm sure a spec bump is a welcome change. I'm considering getting series one myself, although I need to decide if the gps and better water proofing is worth an extra £100...

 

[JayLenochiniMac]

I think he means the fact that anyone who bought the original Apple Watch might now feel cheated that they've upgraded just the processor while they have to stick with the inferior version of the same thing.

And rightly so...if they'd bought it in the last month.

For anyone that bought it 18 months ago, I'm sure a spec bump is a welcome change. I'm considering getting series one myself, although I need to decide if the gps and better water proofing is worth an extra £100...

Why rightly so if they bought it last month, if the original AW is 1.5 years old? Did they expect Apple to never update the AW?

 

[Peepo]

I don't feel cheated because watchOS 3 works great in my original SS. Apple is great for supporting old hardware for several upgrade cycles.

 

[twinlight]

I feel more cheated that it didn't get more new features.

I will feel cheated when they change the design of the watch bands connector.

 

[ZebraDude]

I'm not talking about them launching an Apple Watch 2, I am referring to the fact that they are re-releasing the Apple Watch 1 with a faster processor. This is pretty frustrating and aggravating.

I wonder how the Watch Edition people feel?

some people believed that they would have a "module" swap. I never did...

 

[Luba]

Not exactly cheated, more frustrated:

1. series 0 pre-order was a mess. Had to wait about a month and no in-store pickup.

2. Biggest frustration is pricing under Apple's typical way of doing things, that is they figure on a price and stick to almost all the way to the product's EOL. Close to EOL, they do deals like Back To School, so for the most part consumers shouldn't and can't time a purchase for a better price. For us consumers the best thing to do to get the most value is to buy, for example, a Mac as soon as it comes out. They got the pricing right with the original iPhone. With AW0 they over-priced it, requiring a few price drops through the life of AW0. It was a new product, so more difficult get the pricing correct (under Apple's way of doing things). But with retailers right now trying to dump AW0 with big discounts, it's further evidence of a big over-pricing "mistake".
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I wonder how the Watch Edition people feel?

some people believed that they would have a "module" swap. I never did...

I think with Edition, Apple owned up to their mistake, thus no Gold Editions.
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I'm not talking about them launching an Apple Watch 2, I am referring to the fact that they are re-releasing the Apple Watch 1 with a faster processor. This is pretty frustrating and aggravating.

That makes me nervous. It's Apple acknowledging AW0 processor is not good enough.

But users here using watchOS 3 say watchOS 3 will make AW0 fast enough. I hope so. Otherwise, my AW0 experience has been good. I did pre-order AW2, but having a difficult time selling it. Looks like I'll only get 25%, if I get any bites.

 

[JayLenochiniMac]

I wonder how the Watch Edition people feel?

some people believed that they would have a "module" swap. I never did...

Do you think they care? Many of them are weathly enough that $10,000-17,000 is a drop in the bucket.

It's mostly ordinary folks here who assumed that at least Edition owners would get a "module" swap, not the Edition owners themselves. In fact, they're the type who go on a $30,000 shopping spree on a lazy weekday and thing nothing of it.

 

[Luba]

Do you think they care? Many of them are weathly enough that $10,000-17,000 is a drop in the bucket.

It's mostly ordinary folks here who assumed that at least Edition owners would get a "module" swap, not the Edition owners themselves. In fact, they're the type who go on a $30,000 shopping spree on a lazy weekday and thing nothing of it.

Good point. With no AW2 Gold Editions, why doesn't Apple offer an under the hood upgrade for Gold owners. They can afford to pay for the service.

 

[JayLenochiniMac]

Good point. With no AW2 Gold Editions, why doesn't Apple offer an under the hood upgrade for Gold owners. They can afford to pay for the service.

Apple doesn't typically cater to the top 1% and they may have simply wanted to make a bold statement for whatever reason. However, it's not like the gold Edition has ceased working, and who knows if they'll bring them back?

 

[BlueMoon63]

Apple doesn't typically cater to the top 1% and they may have simply wanted to make a bold statement for whatever reason. However, it's not like the gold Edition has ceased working, and who knows if they'll bring them back?

Edition models may become "Special Edition" in that each release could have a new Edition. If Ceramic white sells well, it could become its own category and a new edition "Titanium, Platinum" could be the edition next year.

I know there are a lot of haters of the Apple Watch (And Apple and Tim Cook, and anyone executive) but I think they are introducing new models and partnerships to open more and more accessories (bands) and to capture a broader interest. I really like the quick band change as it opens up the variety I like.

 

[twinlight]

Do you think they care? Many of them are weathly enough that $10,000-17,000 is a drop in the bucket.

It's mostly ordinary folks here who assumed that at least Edition owners would get a "module" swap, not the Edition owners themselves. In fact, they're the type who go on a $30,000 shopping spree on a lazy weekday and thing nothing of it.

I never thought they would do upgrades but a Watch Edition should have been kind of Apple Vip club. Wear the watch, skip lines, get the new phone first, get the special olympics or pride watch bands and so on.

I don't understand why people would else buy it. Its not like its a special watch except gold and rose gold are ugly colors.

 

[burgman]

I wonder how the Watch Edition people feel?

some people believed that they would have a "module" swap. I never did...

Since most in that finanical level have bought many more expensive toys, most of those gold watches are in a drawer.
Now those that spent savings on it well they deserve to feel stupid. I have a launch day 42MM SS, works just as well now as day one. Still looks new and I don't take care of it at all. Close to my AppleCar+ expiration I assume the Series 1 with new chip will be the replacement

 

[lagwagon]

Why rightly so if they bought it last month, if the original AW is 1.5 years old? Did they expect Apple to never update the AW?

He was NOT talking about series 2 and not talking about never wanting Apple to update AW. So many in this thread keep bringing up "anyone not expecting Apple to release a new watch is foolish". This thread is not about that at all. It's about gen 1 getting a CPU upgrade instead of just continuing to sell gen 1 as is for the lower introduction price.

If the thread was about series 2, then yes, it would be foolish to be upset (because that would be like getting upset about the iPhone 7 being better than iPhone 6s) But again, this is about gen 1 (series 1) being improved and sold as the same. We basically now have series 1 (original watch and now discontinued), series 1.5 (series 1 with series 2 CPU), series 2 (the true new model)

Anyone who buys a series 1 soon will have a better series 1 than a series 1 today (makes no sense to have a Watch of the "same series" be better than itself) Completely different than someone who buys a series 2 soon will have a better watch than someone who bought a series 1 today.

 

[chabig]

They are not re-releasing the Stainless models with faster processor though, so I don't feel cheated at all.

The new Series 1 is not available in stainless steel, but the Series 2 is.

 

[JayLenochiniMac]

He was NOT talking about series 2 and not talking about never wanting Apple to update AW. So many in this thread keep bringing up "anyone not expecting Apple to release a new watch is foolish". This thread is not about that at all. It's about gen 1 getting a CPU upgrade instead of just continuing to sell gen 1 as is for the lower introduction price.

He was in fact talking about Series 1 and my post was in response to that. I view Series 1 as a new and updated version of the original AW (although it's not available in SS).

 

[rawlus]

I don't feel cheated, still wear it every day, the rest of my watch collection sits in its case. I'm more depressed about that than a modest update to the Apple Watch...

 

[fischersd]

He was in fact talking about Series 1 and my post was in response to that. I view Series 1 as a new and updated version of the original AW (although it's not available in SS).

Series one is the like the iPhone SE.

If anyone feels "cheated" they need to get over themselves. Apple's done a lot to protect the investment that we made. The bands are all compatible. And, this IS technology dammit...we know it starts to get leapfrogged the moment we walk out of the store.

 

[lagwagon]

Series one is the like the iPhone SE.

If anyone feels "cheated" they need to get over themselves. Apple's done a lot to protect the investment that we made. The bands are all compatible. And, this IS technology dammit...we know it starts to get leapfrogged the moment we walk out of the store.

No, series 1 would be like if Apple started putting A9 chips into the iPhone 6 along side the release of the 6s. Offering a physically better iPhone 6 than what was originally offered in that same model with the brand new model of the 6s.

 

[JayLenochiniMac]

No, series 1 would be like if Apple started putting A9 chips into the iPhone 6 along side the release of the 6s. Offering a physically better iPhone 6 than what was originally offered in that same model with the brand new model of the 6s.

And guess what, that's still fair game. They do it all the time with MacBooks, often as silent updates.

If you're buying a few month old product (much less 1.5 years old which the original AW is), expect it to be updated anytime.

 

[fischersd]

No, series 1 would be like if Apple started putting A9 chips into the iPhone 6 along side the release of the 6s. Offering a physically better iPhone 6 than what was originally offered in that same model with the brand new model of the 6s.

Well, if you're going to split hairs, ours (Series 0) would be the iPhone 6 and the Series 1 would be the iPhone 6s and the Series 2 would be the iPhone 7 (but released at the same time).

 

[lagwagon]

Well, if you're going to split hairs, ours (Series 0) would be the iPhone 6 and the Series 1 would be the iPhone 6s and the Series 2 would be the iPhone 7 (but released at the same time).

Not quite either. For it to be that, then both 6s and 7 would have the same CPU and the only difference between the two would be the 7 still containing the new home button and new camera. Or series 1 watch get the s2 CPU and series 2 had another all new s3 CPU (System in Package or whatever they call the watch SOC's)

Personally I'm not feeling cheated. Just pointing out that it's strange and not something they've done before in any iDevices (to re-release the exact same model but up the CPU)

It would have been better had they just made them both called Series 2 and just made it two models of a No GPS model and With GPS model (similar to wifi only and LTE iPads.) Which is exactly what they did but decided to call them differently.

 

[fischersd]

Not quite either. For it to be that, then both 6s and 7 would have the same CPU and the only difference between the two would be the 7 still containing the new home button and new camera. Or series 1 watch get the s2 CPU and series 2 had another all new s3 CPU (System in Package or whatever they call the watch SOC's)

Personally I'm not feeling cheated. Just pointing out that it's strange and not something they've done before in any iDevices (to re-release the exact same model but up the CPU)

It would have been better had they just made them both called Series 2 and just made it two models of a No GPS model and With GPS model (similar to wifi only and LTE iPads.) Which is exactly what they did but decided to call them differently.

Hey. ok.

I don't see the point of not including GPS though (except, maybe it'd be a little thinner?) The cost of keeping a second production line just for that doesn't seem of value. The watch only turns on GPS when it's needed, to preserve battery life. If you don't want to use the GPS apps, you simply don't.