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Do you like Liquid Glass on Mac?

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Apple doesn't give the slightest damn about the environment. Anyone who really believes that probably also believes in the tooth fairy.

They don’t?
But they talk about it in marketing all the time.

You’re not suggesting they are full of it and it’s all just about money, are you?

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I'm fine with the appearance of it, but it's definitely not the smoothest OS at the moment. Big issues with overloading the GPU if doing two vaguely GPU related things at once, I see the window server is using a lot of GPU for some reason. Chrome also seems very unoptimised for it at the moment, so I'm using Safari more
Enrolled in the Beta program for the first time ever in 30+ years of using Apple just to get the 26.1 Beta. Seems much improved, will just slip back out of the Beta program once this gets a proper release
 
My OS needs for my Mac are not great. I don't need change for changes' sake. If I wasn't prod to upgrade all the time, I would run Lulu, block softwareupdated and probably (in another world) be running Sonoma.

The only two features I need that are offered in operating systems subsequent to Sonoma are the Apple password manager in Sequoia and the ability to have third-party browsers get notification codes in Tahoe. So, because of these features that I do need, I'm on Tahoe. iOS 26 is a bit better on my iPhone 16 (with reduce transparency and reduce motion on) than Tahoe (totally stock settings) is on the Mac.
 
So many good examples in this piece

Really worth a read

(also, it's by NO means super negative on Tahoe overall! Don't prejudge, please!)

 
The Music app, with a couple of rows of tiles scrolled horizontally so some of the tiles are underneath the sidebar.

"Since the sidebar is now apparently overtop a window, stuff can be displayed underneath it.

If you have seen any screenshots of this in action, it has probably been of the Music app, because few other applications do this, because why would you want stuff under the sidebar?"



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"A floating sidebar and a hard gradient of a toolbar is a distracting combination.
Whatever benefit it is supposed to impart is lost on me."


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Where there was once a solid area for tools has, in many apps, become a gradient with floating buttons. The gradient is both a fill and a progressive blur, which I think is unattractive.

This area is not very tall, which means a significant amount of the document encroaches into its lower half. In light mode, the background of a toolbar is white. The backgrounds of toolbar buttons are also white. Buttons are differentiated by nothing more than a diffuse shadow. The sidebar is now a floating roundrect. The glyphs in sidebar items and toolbar buttons are near-black. The shapeless action buttons in Finder are grey. Some of these things were present in previous versions of MacOS, but the sum of this design language is the continued reduction of contrast in user interface elements to, I think, its detriment.
 
This is just bizarre. I can't even tell what I'm looking at. 🤣

Desktop background with widgets floating everywhere? An application?

Yes I can eventually figure it out, but on initial glance, it's disorienting.

It's a such a good example of "Marketing" encroaching on actual UX.

Maybe in a pitch meeting it sounds good to have "content to the edges" for "maximum immersion"...

But in reality, in usage, by human beings, it's much better to have the toolbars and window chrome highly differentiated from the content you're working with/manipulating..

Imagine in a kitchen, if you were cooking and the lines between what was the pan vs the stove vs the utensils on the counter all around it were all sort of "blurred together" and it was kind of hard to tell where the pan ended and the stove began and/or clearly see which tools were what around the edges...

Would we say this is good because I'm now more "immersed" in the omelette I'm trying to make?

More likely, I'd be focused on how my hand hurts from being burned when I couldn't tell where the pan handle was and I stuck it right into the flame.
 
There are so many myths surrounding this - and they are held on to stubbornly. It's unreal how many of our customers still believe there is no malware on macOS.

How do they say? Ignorance is bliss? Yeah...

"our" customers?

Can you please expand upon that?

Do you work at Apple?
(honestly asking)
 
Had all sorts of graphics overloading issues on 26.0.1, and chrome was using huge amounts of GPU to render pages

Ah ok. But no refinements or improvements to Liquid Glass, I guess?

"our" customers?

Can you please expand upon that?

Do you work at Apple?

No. I work in cybersecurity. We provide managed security services (MSSP) to businesses. You'd be surprised how often we hear "we don't need security, we use Apple" in sales calls.
 
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No. I work in cybersecurity. We provide managed security services (MSSP) to businesses. You'd be surprised how often we hear "we don't need security, we use Apple" in sales calls.

Honestly not shocking to me at all.

I'm of the opinion that the walled garden actually has the side effect of creating a user base that's ripe for the picking, as they are too often convinced they are "safe with Apple stuff".
 
By the sheer number of bugs one can think that Tahoe might be more vulnearble as OS to privesc and ohter zero-day exploits than Sequoia :)
 
Apple doesn't give the slightest damn about the environment. Anyone who really believes that probably also believes in the tooth fairy.

I actually think they do. They certainly try to do some environmentally conscious things.

It's just that their prime directive is profits. All else, including customer satisfaction, has to take second place when there's a conflict.

There's no reason why my M1 mini shouldn't last 20 years. If smartctl is to be believed, the internal SSD has only used 1% of its lifespan. I suppose the fan can fail. In any event, I can use it as a fancy raspberry pi if nothing else for a long, long time. I don't expect Apple to support it for 20 yrs, but they should for a while.
 
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