Do you regret upgrading to Leopard?

[MacsAttack]

I'm a bit disappointed. Leopard cost £85 in the UK ($170) for single licence, whereas Tiger and Panther cost only £69 even when the US exchange rate was worse.

Strange. I've got my receipt for the Tiger upgrade here. It was £88.99 - not £69. Don't forget to factor in that the US price is exclusive of any tax - it takes a bite out of the variance in the price. For my Leopard family pack the difference between UK and US prices (exclusive) is just over 7%. The higher costs of doing business in the UK prety much account for that.

Far better than the markup Adobe went for with CS2 - an exta 70% for exactly the same product. Now THAT is something to bitch about.

As for Leopard, it is working fine on the two machines I've updated. I'm evaluating all my critical apps over the next week - then I'll update my MAc Pro (all things going well - which thay have so far).

Spaces is a nice addition when working on the small screen of a MacBook with Illustrator and several other apps open when I have to jump back and forth. System perfoemance is fine - in fact it is excelent running VMs on Parallels. I'm seeing a significant imporovment in app lanuch times in the VM, so some low level Leopard changes are having a big impact there.

Finder performance is better - they may at last have FTFF.

Safari is "snappy"

Mail enhancments are nice. Like the notes and to-do additions.

Spotlight is faster. Can't wait to see what it is like on the Mac Pro (where it screams under Tiger as it is).

Quick Look is a fantastic addition.

Coverflow works well. I don't bother with Bridge much now.

New voice is a real improvment. I use the text to speach when editing and proofing text. Would have got the update for that alone (almost).

I'm sure there are some issues, but so far they aren't giving me any problems.

Back to my evaluation - so many new things to play with - so little time.

 

[72930]

Fresh install over here...no problems whatsoever 🙂

I'll be truly happy one APE comes our way in a little bit...

 

[johnnyjibbs]

What?! If true, that's completely and utterly absurd. And yeah, the price of it here in the UK is steep for what it is...

Yep. They have put the placeholder title on your HD but not the actual help pages (comes up with Pipex error for me currently!).

Leopard. Bloody 9GB of space for upgrade from Tiger and no help system...

 

[johnnyjibbs]

Strange. I've got my receipt for the Tiger upgrade here. It was £88.99 - not £69.

Really? Point taken. Perhaps I bought Tiger using edu discount 🙄 Still - it's steep for what it is, especially as some functionality has been lost (e.g. stacks). Whatever others say, I think Spotlighting an app to launch it is a clumsy and non-intuitive way to do it, not necessarily the 'pro' way, and in any case choice is good!

 

[ASTRX]

No way. Lovin Leopard. Im using Spaces way more than I thought, its awesome!
Performance is better than in Tiger and finally a stable version of Safari, havent crashed since I installed it on saturday.
Didn't think i would use Cover Flow in Finder as much as I do either, but its sooo pretty 🙂
And the Path bar in finder is somthing i really missed.
Another thing is the ability to share folders on external drives in windows share. This removes the need for Sharepoints.
When youre an early adopter you have to accept some flaws though.

One bad thing is the transparent menu bar and the dock shelf, ugly as hell...

 

[Tygernoot]

No regrets so far.
- The system feels a bit quicker. E.g. right-click menus appear instantly where you sometimes had to wait in Tiger, probably due to better threading.
- Spaces comes in handy on my 15" (MBP) screen when I have a lot of windows open
- Time Machine is a great solution although I'd like it to work with the new Airport Extreme Basestation so all my macs can backup to the same drive without having to physically move that drive every time and plugging it in.
- Network shares are a lot better. It's now easier to search files on the other computer without first mounting the other computer.
- Didn't use Quick Look a lot, but Cover Flow seems nice for searching through pictures.
- I always put the dock on the side so no 3D effects (unless you switch it on). I don't think the 3D dock is ugly and since I don't stare at it all the time it wouldn't bother me 🙂.
- Overall look is a bit 'smoother'. No more pinstripes in the menus and stuff. I like it.
- Spotlight is quicker, especially for launching apps. Was too slow in Tiger IMO as it was faster to click the app folder in the dock and select the app yourself.

I do have a few remarks:
- Stacks aren't great. I have a lot of apps in my applications folder, and the stack can't show them all. This was better in Tiger where I put the folder in the dock and with right-click I could open an app quickly or open the app folder itself in one click. It can be useful for downloads e.g. where I don't have too many items at the same time.
- Menu bar transparency isn't my style, but it doesn't bother me that much.

Overall, it's a nice upgrade, but nothing spectacular.

 

[72930]

Most of the problems I'm now finding are small things that should be fixed in a couple of updates...

One irritating thing, the live disk partitioning seems not to work often on my Macbook...

 

[xUKHCx]

Yep. They have put the placeholder title on your HD but not the actual help pages (comes up with Pipex error for me currently!).

Leopard. Bloody 9GB of space for upgrade from Tiger and no help system...

The help system isn't online only works perfectly for me when i'm not connected to my network, which thanks to Leopard is after I wake it from sleep.

 

[Sijmen]

I love many of the features. But I'm not really happy.

The new UI is horrible. They gray metal look looks heavy, old, and slow. I thought it would just take some time to adjust, but I'm not sure about that anymore.

When I play with Xcode and look at the toolbar and see the Aqua comboboxes on that gray metal, it just looks horrible. Everytime I see a screenshot of Tiger and some unified Aqua apps I feel like going back. (Which is something I'm not gonna do because I do love the new features and dev tools.)

I wish they'd just kept the dock, menu bar, and chose to push the white unified style instead of the dark gray one.

An old screenshot for memories:

 

[andmill]

yes i do, i certainly like it better then tiger, but its not worth the $135 i spent on it.

 

[ksz]

Not wanting to risk stability problems like the ones I experienced with an in-place upgrade to Tiger, I did a clean install of Leopard. It went very smoothly: no BSOD or other irksome incompatibilities with old apps.

Next, I installed only selected apps and avoided as much crapware as possible that I had built up over the years. So right now Leopard is very well behaved.

However, I have had a lot of trouble with Mail. My AOL and Gmail accounts each have over 1000 messages in their Inbox so I wish Mail had a way to limit the number that are imported. It's taking forever to import the mail headers, particularly from AOL. On top of that, Mail has crashed at least 5 times.

Stacks are okay. There's a lot of room for improvement, but because my folders aren't overloaded, the grid view is helpful.

However, I don't like those blue folder icons with their low-contrast embossed images. Ouch, really dull.

Overall, quite happy with Leopard.

 

[smueboy]

Most of the problems I'm now finding are small things that should be fixed in a couple of updates...
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Exactly - me too. i always expect a few teething problems with a fresh OS. Overall though, the transition for me was totally painless.
😀

 

[vansouza]

MacFreePOP

Wow that is really sad. I am sorry.

My experience has been quite the opposite. Everything works amazingly! All my files transfered wonderfully. All my preferences/settings etc. transferred and are in working order.

I have only had 2-3 things that have not worked. One was HTTP hotmail thing for the mail app. Now I have to check it via safari (sad day).
..

My hotmail account is not used much at all but I found this program that allows Leopard Mail to access the free hotmail service; I guess it works with the paid one as well...

 

[judystadt]

I'm so sad that I installed Leopard

I just purchased a beautiful new G5 imac, got Leopard and from the second it was put into the drive it was screwy. Can I go back to my Tiger? I would in a flash.😡

 

[milo]

I just purchased a beautiful new G5 imac, got Leopard and from the second it was put into the drive it was screwy. Can I go back to my Tiger? I would in a flash.😡

If you're having problems, I'd probably just do a fresh reinstall, probably Archive and install. Did you do an upgrade?

 

[GNice]

No regrets whatsoever! I did an upgrade with ZERO problems. Yea, like many I wish stacks had an additional option to "navigate as a hierarchical menu". But in the big scheme of things that's minor.

All in all I'm extremely happy with Leopard. 🙂

 

[yeti5d]

The straw that broke the back was not being able to sort Finder searches by size, date modded, etc.

You mean this?

 

[madelinefine]

regret leopard upgrade

yes - today I do regret upgrading. But I do hope that the fixes will come sooner -as opposed to later. So fairly soon I won't regret the upgrade. Would prefer seamless operation but of course that is why updates follow a release!

had to reinstall new google earth - the old version kept crashing without even opening

can't bluetooth synchronize my palm tungsten e2 - no back up scares me a lot

i'm sure the incompatibilities that are most annoying will be dealt with - but i was told the palm pilot tungsten e2 incompatibility would have to be addressed by palm. So the sooner they receive many words of encouragement the better for me and a few other folks.

 

[FBDiver]

I'm pretty happy with the OS. I think apple could have done a better job documenting some of the unsupported pieces of the new features like Time Machine, I'm having a heck of a time getting it to work with my NAS. Overall these issues will be worked through, an OS is just a bit complicated and man hours to test/validate every possible hardware/software/user hack/etc would take centuries.

The mac and the apple ideas are brilliant and refreshing. I was born into Unix, lived in Windows and now I'm evolving into Mac 😉

 

[roland.g]

I've noticed a few glitches, sleep doesn't work right, my powermate keeps changing its light settings, little things. Really the problems I am having outside of that stem from trying to use 2 user accounts with one iPhoto and iTunes library and the same address book. If I can solve that I will be really happy. Solved my hierarchical folders v. stacks issue. So it's mostly all good, and I like the performance boost, not to mention spaces is great.

Not to shabby for a .1 release. Wonder if there will be mostly fixes or even some fixes/new things in other releases. Not necessarily new, just ways to make certain new features work better I guess.

Long live 3rd party. All those freeware and shareware apps out there really make it all so great.

 

[hogmog]

Simple answer: Yes, I do regret upgrading to Leopard last weekend

Complex answer: Yes, I do regret upgrading to Leopard at the weekend because:

- printing from Word 2004 and PowerPoint 2004 to a Samsung CLP300N does not work full-stop (Entourage does though!)
- printing from Word 2004 and PowerPoint 2004 to a Canon S9000 works occasionally (Entourage does though!)
- print Preview works when it feels like it ie Samsung not at all, Canon on and off
- Excel 2004 is totally screwed - each cell appears as a separate piece of 'paper' on screen

As my work focuses on research which includes printed reports, stats and presentations all Office products are of core use. To have them go west in this way is ridiculous. Leopard is being shot this weekend and going back to Tiger as these issues far out-weigh the benefits of Leopard (of which there are two - connecting to my Windows machine via network is completely seemless and faff free, and being able to annotate PDFs in Preview).

 

[djellison]

Yes - I regret 'crossgrading' to Leopard. I say cross, not up - because so far it isn't a better product for me.

Keyboard lockups, Safari crashes, and when it's not crashing it's slow. It's just no where near as snappy and quick to use as Tiger was, and the new features.... I don't use spaces, stacks is crap compared to what we were shown before release, and I simply refuse to trust Time Machine.

It's made me reconsider buying an MBP after Jan - because I don't want to spend £1600 to use this OS. I want it fixed first.
Doug

 

[r.j.s]

Absolutely not, I have not had any problems at all since my clean install.

Although, now that I've said something about not having any problems - I'm going to have some problems.

 

[cohibadad]

Don't regret Leopard at all. I oversee 13 Macs with Leopard (8 came with it) and have had no significant problems.

 

[vansouza]

Simple answer: Yes, I do regret upgrading to Leopard last weekend

Complex answer: Yes, I do regret upgrading to Leopard at the weekend because:

- printing from Word 2004 and PowerPoint 2004 to a Samsung CLP300N does not work full-stop (Entourage does though!)
- printing from Word 2004 and PowerPoint 2004 to a Canon S9000 works occasionally (Entourage does though!)
- print Preview works when it feels like it ie Samsung not at all, Canon on and off
- Excel 2004 is totally screwed - each cell appears as a separate piece of 'paper' on screen

As my work focuses on research which includes printed reports, stats and presentations all Office products are of core use. To have them go west in this way is ridiculous. Leopard is being shot this weekend and going back to Tiger as these issues far out-weigh the benefits of Leopard (of which there are two - connecting to my Windows machine via network is completely seemless and faff free, and being able to annotate PDFs in Preview).

I have a Sammy HL2700n and had to use the generic post script drivers to get it to print well...