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Do You Get High?

  • I've Never Smoked Weed Nor Do I Intend To

    Votes: 178 42.9%
  • I've Smoked Weed Less Than a Handful of Times

    Votes: 45 10.8%
  • I've Smoked Pot Here & There On Occasion

    Votes: 36 8.7%
  • I Used To Smoke My Fair Share In The Past

    Votes: 45 10.8%
  • I've Smoked My Fair Share of Weed and Still Do on Occasion

    Votes: 32 7.7%
  • I Smoke Weed About Once a Month

    Votes: 14 3.4%
  • I Smoke Weed About Once a Week

    Votes: 12 2.9%
  • I Smoked Weed A Few Times a Week

    Votes: 22 5.3%
  • I Smoke Weed Daily

    Votes: 31 7.5%

  • Total voters
    415
Fair enough, you don't have a problem with all of us. We're cool.

But you still haven't said why you have a big problem with some of us.

Well, it mostly has to do with everybody that seems to take the stance of the government, will not look at the other side, or even consider other sources. That's what I have a problem with, I have no problem with people that choose not to smoke, but to tell me I can't, when theres really no basis for it, and to judge me for it, just makes me angry.

I work hard, I have good relations with my family, I got A's all through school. Yet, despite these facts, I'm constantly labeled by people as a lazy good for nothing stoner.
 
It's because you're a stinkin' Sooner!

Take your medicine - I don't care how bitter it is. ;)

Well, it mostly has to do with everybody that seems to take the stance of the government, will not look at the other side, or even consider other sources. That's what I have a problem with, I have no problem with people that choose not to smoke, but to tell me I can't, when theres really no basis for it, and to judge me for it, just makes me angry.

I work hard, I have good relations with my family, I got A's all through school. Yet, despite these facts, I'm constantly labeled by people as a lazy good for nothing stoner.

I see, so it sounds like your original statement about having a "huge problem with the non-smoking community" isn't altogether correct.

Far be it from me to judge you or any other stoner, regardless of whether they're lazy, good for nothing, or whatever. For many of us, it's not about passing judgment on whether you're ambitious or good for something. For me, it's about living my life with a clear, non-polluted mind. For others, it may be about something else.

I don't know exactly what your motivation is for smoking (you haven't said), but it seems to be something other than getting along with your family and making good grades. Please, do share.
 
I would never work somewhere that did drug testing or any other infringement like that on my private life. I can understand background checks for violent crimes etc but drug testing is ridiculous IMO

It's not if you show up for work stoned/drunk and kill somebody in a wreck while driving a company vehicle. I work for the feds, so the no drug thing kind of comes with the territory. I have never been tested at my current job, though they say they can test "at any time". I got tested more often when I worked in private industry, probably due to liability issues. Now, I'd be more afraid of getting busted when off work and losing my security clearance than actually getting tested at work.

Besides, I didn't even care for it when I was younger. I never liked the smell or the smoke (or smoke of any type, really.) Give me a good whiskey or craft beer and I'm happy.
 
As I said in my first post on this thread, I started it as an offshoot way to treat my horrible insomnia. I didn't want to use any of the addictive sleep aids out on the market right now, so out of nowhere, my doctor asked me if I'd consider it an option (I live in Colorado, where MMJ is legal). So I tried it, it worked, has worked, and will continue to work. I don't have a clouded mind during the day, but I do find the effects pleasant and relaxing that I also do use it recreationally. I find it reduces my anxiety, and since I started smoking, I have not gotten sick at all (I used to get sick about once a month before, most likely stress related.) There are certain types of mmj that can give you clear minded and cloudy minded effects as well. There's a lot more than one feeling it can bring up. I also find it to be a mood enhancer, so if I'm sad, I wont smoke, as it will make me even sadder, but if I'm happy, it tends to enhance that feeling too.

For the record, I love being sober more than I do high, its not a pursuit of that, but I feel I should be able to relax as I please, and be able to get a good nights sleep.
 
Flour.

I once had a room mate who dealt with a lot of weed (100s of gram) and he once got his hand on some weed mixed with flour. It was not even doing anything if I remember correctly.

Btw, my weed smoking years are over as I grew addicted to it and had to stay for 23 + 16 weeks at two clinics to get rid of it and live my life without it.

Though I'm still addicted to cigarettes.

This whole post sounds a bit "hmmmm". I read your proceeding post, which made a little more sense but not by much. (There has been no evidence of brain damage, BTW.)
I don't think flour would be a common cutting agent because it's not very heavy and it's not the right consistency or texture to mimic the appearance of shiny and sticky trichomes. Unfortunately a lot more harmful substances do, such as glass and sand. All of this is thanks to it being illegal and people having to resort to dodgy sources.

That is a crazy amount of time to spend at a rehab. Now I know everyone is different but typically even Heroin addicts don't need that much time. I guess any substance in the hands of someone with an addictive personality can wreak havoc on that person. Good for you identifying that there was a problem and dealing with it though.
 
It's not if you show up for work stoned/drunk and kill somebody in a wreck while driving a company vehicle. I work for the feds, so the no drug thing kind of comes with the territory. I have never been tested at my current job, though they say they can test "at any time". I got tested more often when I worked in private industry, probably due to liability issues. Now, I'd be more afraid of getting busted when off work and losing my security clearance than actually getting tested at work.

I don't really buy that argument, firstly most places that test are not places where turning up intoxicated would put anyone at risk, secondly the tests don't test if you're intoxicated at the time they test for trace amounts of the stuff. As far as I'm concerned my private time is my own, If any company tried to dictate what I can and can not do in that time I will not work for them.

I don't even smoke weed and I could get out of other testing due to having an ADD script. The principle just bothers me too much.
 
This whole post sounds a bit "hmmmm". I read your proceeding post, which made a little more sense but not by much. (There has been no evidence of brain damage, BTW.)
I don't think flour would be a common cutting agent because it's not very heavy and it's not the right consistency or texture to mimic the appearance of shiny and sticky trichomes. Unfortunately a lot more harmful substances do, such as glass and sand. All of this is thanks to it being illegal and people having to resort to dodgy sources.

That is a crazy amount of time to spend at a rehab. Now I know everyone is different but typically even Heroin addicts don't need that much time. I guess any substance in the hands of someone with an addictive personality can wreak havoc on that person. Good for you identifying that there was a problem and dealing with it though.

My dealer roommate said it was flour, I was not really thinking clear then, thus I gave no further though.
It was a white powder, that's all I remember clearly and it clearly stood out from the rest of the harvest. It was not meant to camouflage as weed parts, I think it was more meant as a substitute to make it bigger and heavier.
It may have been sand, but I haver never heard or read about such white sand, it was clearly as white as flour.
It was definitely no glass, though I've heard of this as cutting agent. As this episode is now five years into the past, I may have some gaps of what really happened. It is not a story I made up to entertain, but I acknowledge that I might not remember correctly.

On the length of the therapy:
Every country is different and I have done my time in Germany, where in the 90s heroin addicts could have 18 months therapies.
I was 25 when I entered the program (November 8th of 2006) and the pension insurance, which paid for my therapies, first gave me a standard of 16 weeks of therapy, which can be prolonged for every patient (25 years and younger) for eight more weeks.
My therapist, who also lead the group of patients of 25 years and younger, applied for everyone of the youths another eight weeks. Sometimes she (or better: the patient) got the extra time, sometimes it was declined.
After the 20th week it was clear, that this therapy would not help me any longer (it was repeating due to daily newcomers) and thus another application was filled for another kind of therapy.
While the first therapy was stationary, in a forest, daily program from 8am to 5pm, except weekends, three group therapies per week, work therapy, sports, ...., the second therapy, now 16 weeks, consisted of having one apartment for oneself (in the first therapy one had to share a room, for observational issues, relapses could be monitored better) in a house with 20 apartments.
The first month consisted of an external therapy at a clinic nearby, mostly inhabited by former convicts who now had the chance to make therapy instead of jail, to break loose from the drug life. The last three months one participated at an external work experience for four days a week, one day per week was meant for group therapy and cleaning the house.
After that was over, I lived for 15 months in an assisted living flat share with two other THC addicts and one flatmate who consumed heroin and alcohol and cocaine in his past life.
It may sound a bit much, but it got me away from using THC as an escape, because in the end, it doesn't matter what drug one uses, if one abuses any drug, it will lead to self harm. Some are more dangerous of course, like heroin and I knew some people who died from it, many voluntarily, as they know how much they can take if they have taken it for 20+ years, but still took more than they should.

EDIT to add:
I doubt, coming from my experience, that anything less than 16 or 23 weeks, or the famous 29 Days (we watched it in therapy) is enough to kick any drug habit, especially the bigger ones like heroin or cocaine or alcohol. That stuff has to leave your system not only physiologically, but psychologically too. It took me half a year to lose it and to think clear again.
Of course there are the self help groups like AA or NA or many others, but sometimes drugs have brought a human being down to almost nothing, and then more time is needed to get strength again.
The relapse quota is still high. 50% to 80% percent of the people making a therapy relapse in the first year, the quota goes down, the longer one is free of the drug(s). The second year still has 40% relapses, after that the quota goes down logarithmically.



On the part about the brain damage:
I meant psychosis and not neurosis, sorry, have confused the words (I'm awake again for more than 24 hours - work related).
THC consume can cause psychosis or at least accelerate and already latent prevalence to develop one.
http://priory.com/psych/cannabis.htm


Anyway, therapy was an important part of my life, I still visit the clinic on a yearly basis with a friend, who I met there, for reunions.
And every year less and less people one knew came to those events.


Btw, I'm not saying, that consuming weed will make an addict out of everyone, but some, like me, are destined or more prevalent to become addicted to any substance. THC did what I needed at that time and as my parents were addicts too, I didn't know any better.
I know many people, who can live a normal live with a daily or weekly or monthly or yearly or no weed consume.
I just can't. And that is okay.

Sorry for the mess and maybe confusing sentences. ;)

Will stick to other confusing word combinations in the future, just ask GGJstudios about them. :)
 
^ Fair enough and thanks for explaining, spinnerlys, you certainly didn't have to. Interesting program you went through but it sounds to have been effective, which is brilliant.
I'm also somewhat relieved to hear from a previous addict that isn't vilifying the cannabis itself. I think that's an understandable reaction but it always irks me because the potential problems have much more to do with the individual.
 
^ Fair enough and thanks for explaining, spinnerlys, you certainly didn't have to. Interesting program you went through but it sounds to have been effective, which is brilliant.
I'm also somewhat relieved to hear from a previous addict that isn't vilifying the cannabis itself. I think that's an understandable reaction but it always irks me because the potential problems have much more to do with the individual.

Thanks.

I know that "vilifying" behaviour. I had that too in my first year after I finally got rid of it. It's the same with every other drug one choose to abandon.
I think it is part of the healing process, some just get stuck at this particular symptom and enhance it. There are many ex-smokers who can't stand smokers and think, that those still smoking are dirt. And that will be with any other substance abuse I guess.

But once one sees the problem in oneself and not in the existence of that drug, one can let go of that somewhat nihilistic stigma.

And I think a very big bird just landed on my roof. Definitely not a pigeon.
 
I don't really buy that argument, firstly most places that test are not places where turning up intoxicated would put anyone at risk, secondly the tests don't test if you're intoxicated at the time they test for trace amounts of the stuff. As far as I'm concerned my private time is my own, If any company tried to dictate what I can and can not do in that time I will not work for them.

I don't even smoke weed and I could get out of other testing due to having an ADD script. The principle just bothers me too much.

It was the case at the places I worked. The places that used it both provided company vehicles, so I suspect it was due to liability reasons. I'm a libertarian at heart, so I agree that what I do on my own time is my business. However, I agreed to the policy when I went to work there. It's not big deal to me, since I don't do it. If I did, I would find somewhere else to work. Honestly, though, I understand the company's need to cover their rears in today's sue-happy environment.
 
I don't really buy that argument, firstly most places that test are not places where turning up intoxicated would put anyone at risk, secondly the tests don't test if you're intoxicated at the time they test for trace amounts of the stuff. As far as I'm concerned my private time is my own, If any company tried to dictate what I can and can not do in that time I will not work for them.

I don't even smoke weed and I could get out of other testing due to having an ADD script. The principle just bothers me too much.

Random drug testing is pretty common in the US. I completely agree that it's BS too but it's awkward because if you want a job, you do have to jump through those hoops. I find it appalling that the employer-employee boundaries are so messed up that they can, at any time, request that you give up your bodily fluids for testing substances that you likely partook of on your own time... and you can be fired on the spot for it. It's another part of why e didn't want to move to the US and I moved here instead. It's not just the testing, it's that overall feeling of "ownership". The "balance" is too far in favour of the employer there and there's jack shyte you can do about it.
 
Sounds more like your weed was being spiked with cocaine or really pure heroin, especially if you needed rehab for that long (for weed, really?).

Flour? Really?

It might have been meth?

Have you ever had to battle a substance addiction?

Hmm, now that you have mentioned it, I should have been fine with 29 days, even though I was in the clinic for 161 days and had a relapse after a measly 67 days. Would it have been shorter, I would have never thought of using again. :rolleyes:

Btw, one time consumption of cocaine does not make you an addict, heroin might though in my experience.

PS: You don't know me, I don't know you, we have different backgrounds and I learnt to handle problems differently than you did. If you want I can provide some background about me, but doubting my decision or length of therapy is kind of disrespectful of someone's solution to get away from whatever drug.
PPS: If I would have been 30 at that time, I would have gotten 16+16 weeks only though.
 
It might have been meth?

Have you ever had to battle a substance addiction?

Hmm, now that you have mentioned it, I should have been fine with 29 days, even though I was in the clinic for 161 days and had a relapse after a measly 67 days. Would it have been shorter, I would have never thought of that. :rolleyes:

Btw, one time consumption of cocaine does not make you an addict, heroin might though in my experience.

I know a lot of people who've smoked a lot of weed, and I've never in my life heard of someone spending 161 days in rehab for a marijuana addiction. That's insane!
 
I know a lot of people who've smoked a lot of weed, and I've never in my life heard of someone spending 161 days in rehab for a marijuana addiction. That's insane!

It's not.

Did those people develop an addiction?
If so, were they strong enough to overpower it?

I certainly wasn't, I could stop for weeks though, but my last year before the clinic was focused on getting high. When I had money, the first thing to buy was weed, then some tobacco and if something was left of the money, I got some food.

PS: It is not just the addiction one has to battle, but most often the habits one had to battle, which took time too.
I rarely interacted socially, unless I talked to my dealer. I rarely cleaned myself or my room. I often lied. I even began to steal weed from a friend.
If that is something to come over in a shorter amount of time for you or others, good for them. I couldn't and still am socially kind of inept.
It took this long for me, others in my age had only 20 to 22 weeks, but I got the extra one because I also had to wait for that other clinic, as going back to my old place was out of the question.

Anyway, I'm getting tired of this and have the feeling I have to justify myself about my way of getting rid of a nasty drug addiction.
 
i'm late to the party. i've smoked weed on a handful of occasions - mostly in my high school and college days. it does nothing for me. i just get stoned and pass out.
 
Anyway, I'm getting tired of this and have the feeling I have to justify myself about my way of getting rid of a nasty drug addiction.

I get what you're saying. Everyone is different and you owe noone an explanation.

In my case, this thread is giving me the idea that I should get some for this coming long weekend. When my wife tried weed for the first time (and last), just a couple of years ago, we had the best sex we had had in ages. Hmmm....
 
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Anyway, I'm getting tired of this and have the feeling I have to justify myself about my way of getting rid of a nasty drug addiction.

It all sounds a bit strange to me too but I figured that a person with a properly addictive personality may very well have a more difficult time with breaking the cycle.
 
It all sounds a bit strange to me too but I figured that a person with a properly addictive personality may very well have a more difficult time with breaking the cycle.

Car engines sound strange to me, and yes, a person with an addictive personality will have a hard time breaking the cycle. Half or three quarters of a year is tiny compared to the time one has been addicted and misused a substance.

Though at the time of my visit I met many people who where addicted for as long as I live, thus I'm glad it didn't take me that long to get help.

And another point to add: It took me 14 weeks to arrive at the clinic, if I hadn't applied for an extension, I would have had only two weeks to work with.

Many things take time, so why hurry? There is a reason turtles aren't ninjas.
 
Since the original post, I haven't really gotten high that much.

I did get high last night though, considering it was my best buddies birthday.

I see weed now kinda like a great restaurant you go to every once in a long while; the food is good..but for some reason I only eat there like once a month...if even that at all.

Does that make sense or am I still kinda high? :p
 
Since the original post, I haven't really gotten high that much.

I did get high last night though, considering it was my best buddies birthday.

I see weed now kinda like a great restaurant you go to every once in a long while; the food is good..but for some reason I only eat there like once a month...if even that at all.

Does that make sense or am I still kinda high? :p

No I get what you're saying. Moderation is key, and abuse should not be an option (though it is). Abuse is what gives it a bad name, by using it casually whether its once a month, or twice a week, is not bad. I find if I smoke every day I don't enjoy it as much, and I tend to get a little cranky when I quit that habit, every other day, no problem, no psychological dependency, a little extra cash in my wallet. Tolerance stays low. Its all good.
 
No I get what you're saying. Moderation is key, and abuse should not be an option (though it is). Abuse is what gives it a bad name, by using it casually whether its once a month, or twice a week, is not bad. I find if I smoke every day I don't enjoy it as much, and I tend to get a little cranky when I quit that habit, every other day, no problem, no psychological dependency, a little extra cash in my wallet. Tolerance stays low. Its all good.

Totally. I long time ago I used to smoke daily, nightly, all the time and it was a trip on its own being high for weeks and months on end but (to me) it isn't really an enjoyable life.

With me it's kinda like drinking; I don't drink alcohol at all...and when I do it's usually once a month when i'm at a great party.

But the next day (like today) I simply look back at the previous night being fun..but moving on, kinda getting back to the real responsibilities.

& I made sure today wasn't a taxing day for me. I woke up at 1pm after getting home at like 4:30am.
 
I may have replied to this thread before, but I dont really remember :D


Im 43, and my smoking habit varies. There are times when I'll come home from work and smoke everyday, other times I wont smoke for weeks on end.

For me, its really all about taking a puff or two of some really, really good herb to help unwind from a stressful day, or to help fall alseep.

I can tell when it is time to layoff the pipe though. I usually reach a point where I get more forgetful or absent minded than usual...
 
I may have replied to this thread before, but I dont really remember :D


Im 43, and my smoking habit varies. There are times when I'll come home from work and smoke everyday, other times I wont smoke for weeks on end.

For me, its really all about taking a puff or two of some really, really good herb to help unwind from a stressful day, or to help fall alseep.

I can tell when it is time to layoff the pipe though. I usually reach a point where I get more forgetful or absent minded than usual...

I felt it took me a while to get to this mindset. Years ago, younger and careless I would smoke all the time with friends, not caring about missing class or wasting money..

However, now its a different story.
 
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