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Please! NO C! Reminds me of the 5c!
I doubt they would do that either as it would be a very strange association I think. The XR is not even remotely similar to the 5C apart from it being offered in different colours but that’s been an Apple thing since the iPod. I don’t really get the 5C comparisons on here, especially from those with a supposed understanding of Apple products.
 
Xr is going the 5c way ....IMO.
I think you need to explain that suggestion if you wouldn’t mind? How is the XR in any way similar to the 5C?

The iPhone 5C was a budget device which was essentially an iPhone 5 with a polycarbonate casing. It was a 12 month old device repackaged and sold at a much cheaper price. How is the XR on par with that? It’s not cheap, it’s not old technology and the only thing I can see which is similar is the fact it’s offered in a range of colours.
 
I think you need to explain that suggestion if you wouldn’t mind? How is the XR in any way similar to the 5C?

The iPhone 5C was a budget device which was essentially an iPhone 5 with a polycarbonate casing. It was a 12 month old device repackaged and sold at a much cheaper price. How is the XR on par with that? It’s not cheap, it’s not old technology and the only thing I can see which is similar is the fact it’s offered in a range of colours.
The 5c was also very successful for Apple. It fluctuated between the 2nd and 3rd best selling phone model in the world during it's run. The iPhone 5 would have likely sold just as well (maybe better), but the 5c was cheaper for Apple to produce.

The 5c gets an undeserved reputation as a bust. The Xr does as well, all the while being the highest selling iPhone model every day since it has been available.
 
The 5c was also very successful for Apple. It fluctuated between the 2nd and 3rd best selling phone model in the world during it's run. The iPhone 5 would have likely sold just as well (maybe better), but the 5c was cheaper for Apple to produce.

The 5c gets an undeserved reputation as a bust. The Xr does as well, all the while being the highest selling iPhone model every day since it has been available.
Yeah I’m well aware of it’s success as it was a very popular business phone due to its low cost. I gave two 5C’s to my daughters to use as iPods last year and they still work great.

I still don’t see how an XR is similar or going the same way as it though?
 
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Yeah I’m well aware of it’s success as it was a very popular business phone due to its low cost. I gave two 5C’s to my daughters to use as iPods last year and they still work great.

I still don’t see how an XR is similar or going the same way as it though?
I'm sure the poster was implying that the Xr is a failure just like the 5c was a failure in his mind.

I do agree that the Xr is not the spiritual successor to the 5c in anything except for the available colors.
 
I'm sure the poster was implying that the Xr is a failure just like the 5c was a failure in his mind.

I do agree that the Xr is not the spiritual successor to the 5c in anything except for the available colors.
Let’s hope it’s not a failure seeing as Apple themselves suggested it was their best selling new iPhone currently lol. That really would be a cock up! The 5C I agree was a very popular device and especially with business customers and teenagers looking for that jump to iOS from BB.
 
I think it'll stay in the lineup as-is with a price drop this Fall. The SE stuck around for a few years and the only "updates" were a small price drop (I think) and a change to the two storage options (16gb to 32gb, 64gb to 128gb).

Maybe they'll change up the colors each year?
 
How many have you seen outside of Apple stores? Me? - ZERO.
10 percent of my colleagues use an iPhone XR. And since I don't work in an Apple Store, that's significantly more than you have seen. It's a very fine phone, and Apple will sell the iPhone XR or its successors for many years to come.
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That's like going from a 720p display to a 1440p display. I would consider that "night and day difference".

They are both Retina displays. Which means you can't see individual pixels at normal viewing distance. You have to get very close and look very carefully to detect any difference. Not "night and day difference" at all. Plenty of people will never notice any difference.
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Here's something to ponder. The new XR has the same pixel density of the iPhone 4, that was released in 2010. So, almost 9 years later you're paying 750+ tax for a phone that cannot do HD playback... Just something to think about.
How old are you? Do your eyes see any difference on a 6.1 inch screen between HD and almost HD? I don't think so.
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Tim cook , are you there ? I know the thing we use the most are our phones but 1250 euros for a phone is ridiculous :/
This thread is about the iPhone XR. The most expensive iPhone XR with 256 GB is 1049 Euros including VAT. So don't make up stuff.
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I do not believe that iOS and macOS will converge.

They will be different, but I think macOS will gain the ability to run iOS applications with few changes in the next two years. (That doesn't mean Macs with ARM processors, every developer runs iOS applications on their Mac in a simulator today).
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Guess depends how pricing structure looks going forward
There will be new models of the XS, XS-Max and XR next year, with improvements, and at the same price today. Except in the UK, where the pound will crash totally against the dollar, increasing the price by 20%.
 
The 5C was an excellent phone, 99% of buyers have no idea what processor/RAM is in a phone, nor do they care, all they saw was a brand new iPhone in nice bright colours at a cheaper price that had pretty much all of the essential features - It was the same size as the flagship at the time (5S), had lightning, and most people didn't care about no TouchID.
 
I think it'll stay in the lineup as-is with a price drop this Fall. The SE stuck around for a few years and the only "updates" were a small price drop (I think) and a change to the two storage options (16gb to 32gb, 64gb to 128gb).

Maybe they'll change up the colors each year?
You have to remember that the XR is the iPhone aimed at the mainstream iPhone consumer and has the biggest market in the range. Do you think keeping it ‘as is’ and just offering more colours is going to retain upgraders and interest in their core user base?

I think Apple need to apply the same level of attention to the XR that they do with more expensive devices like the XS. People will quickly become disillusioned if all the cool new features go into a phone at the more niche end and not into the main iPhone I would say.
 
99% of buyers have no idea what processor/RAM is in a phone...and most people didn't care about no TouchID.

I agree. A relative of mine went from a iPhone 6 Plus to a iPhone XS Max. Her comments have been that she loves the camera and that she likes FaceID. No comments about the screen, speed, etc. She didn't even realize it was a different screen technology vs simply a different screen size. If I asked her about the processor or RAM she would not know what chips or amounts of RAM each phone had, and I imagine she figured apps refreshing on the iPhone 6+ (due to the 1GB RAM) was just a smartphone thing. At one point my XR was sitting there and she picked it up and said "is this my phone or yours?" When she picked up my XR she didn't notice the greater thickness or bezels compared to her XS Max. The only thing she commented about was that it was black (she didn't see that it was black until she picked it up and saw the bottom because it has a case on it) and that she wanted to get her phone in black but the person who went with her when she bought it convinced her to get gold. I don't think she even realized the finishes were different (aluminum vs SS). The only reason she upgraded from the 6+ was because her husband needed it, and the reason she went XS Max was because she was taking the advice of the person she went shopping with. That person's advice was that if she was going to buy a new phone she might as well get the top of the line one. She 100000% could have gone with a less expensive device and been completely happy with it.
 
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The 5c was a pretty s**t phone.

How? Are you speaking terms of quality? The 5C was actually a fairly durable phone for what it’s worth, if that was your initial comment. But in terms of popularity, the 5C was actually a very popular phone for its time, and even in my area around the launch, you couldn’t get one for the longest Period.
 
To avoid having more and more people converting to Android in the future, Apple will need to keep offering some phone for less than 1000, and since I really don't see them dropping the price of their top of the line product I'm pretty certain that the XR (or something similar) will continue on.
 
This reminds me of the Sega genesis vs super Nintendo debate I had as a kid. Did one have superior specs yes (snes). Did it affect my enjoyment and memories and good times with the genesis? Heck no. I am nostalgic of the genesis and the memories tied to that. People need to keep perspective of this similar to the max.
 
In retrospect, I would not redo/undo my purchase of the max. I got used to 3dt and wanted a phone with the dual lens. Considering how much I use my phone the $250 increment comes out to pennies a day. I cut down on one cup of coffee a day.
Having used the XR every day for the last 2 months, it's an amazing phone. But, I do wish I would have opted for the XS as the $250 is worth the expense for the zoom lens, Portrait Mode on anything (yes I've purchased and used all of the recommended apps for the XR including Halide, Focos, and ProCamera and none come close to the native Camera app), and 3D Touch. I think it would be a smart move for Apple to add Portrait Mode ability on anything and we know that is possible with a single lens seeing what the Pixel's do as well as widespread Haptic Touch implementation. The addition of these two would make the XR that much more compelling to many users.
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Xr is going the 5c way ....IMO.
I disagree. The 5C was a plastic iPhone 5 sold along side the newer 5S which had much better processor, better cameras, and Touch ID. The iPhone XR is a phone unlike anything Apple has released before. You get the same performance and processor, same Face ID, and same cameras outside of the 2x zoom lens. The real differentiating aspect is the screen. LCD vs OLED and no 3D Touch. The XR will continue to be sold along side more expensive options as, also unlike the 5C, has sold better than the more expensive iPhone models. And the critical difference is again, because you aren't losing out on the updated processors or cameras on the XR, while still saving hundreds. It's $250 to $350 less expensive than comparable storage options in the iPhone XS models.
 
I sure hope and I believe they will continue to make the XR.

However it will be increasingly harder for apple to differentiate the more expensive XS line. The XR should either get cheaper if they don't do any upgrades to the tech or it should become more similar to the flagship phones if they put in a better screen and upgrade the processor to whatever the flagship phones have. And there lies the problem because the XR line will cannibalize the XS line.
 
Having used the XR every day for the last 2 months, it's an amazing phone. But, I do wish I would have opted for the XS as the $250 is worth the expense for the zoom lens, Portrait Mode on anything (yes I've purchased and used all of the recommended apps for the XR including Halide, Focos, and ProCamera and none come close to the native Camera app), and 3D Touch. I think it would be a smart move for Apple to add Portrait Mode ability on anything and we know that is possible with a single lens seeing what the Pixel's do as well as widespread Haptic Touch implementation. The addition of these two would make the XR that much more compelling to many users.
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I disagree. The 5C was a plastic iPhone 5 sold along side the newer 5S which had much better processor, better cameras, and Touch ID. The iPhone XR is a phone unlike anything Apple has released before. You get the same performance and processor, same Face ID, and same cameras outside of the 2x zoom lens. The real differentiating aspect is the screen. LCD vs OLED and no 3D Touch. The XR will continue to be sold along side more expensive options as, also unlike the 5C, has sold better than the more expensive iPhone models. And the critical difference is again, because you aren't losing out on the updated processors or cameras on the XR, while still saving hundreds. It's $250 to $350 less expensive than comparable storage options in the iPhone XS models.

Maybe portrait mode for non-humans will come with a future software update?

Out of curiosity, if it doesn’t, will you upgrade to the XS/XS Max successor come fall?
 
10 percent of my colleagues use an iPhone XR. And since I don't work in an Apple Store, that's significantly more than you have seen. It's a very fine phone, and Apple will sell the iPhone XR or its successors for many years to come.
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They are both Retina displays. Which means you can't see individual pixels at normal viewing distance. You have to get very close and look very carefully to detect any difference. Not "night and day difference" at all. Plenty of people will never notice any difference.
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How old are you? Do your eyes see any difference on a 6.1 inch screen between HD and almost HD? I don't think so.
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This thread is about the iPhone XR. The most expensive iPhone XR with 256 GB is 1049 Euros including VAT. So don't make up stuff.
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They will be different, but I think macOS will gain the ability to run iOS applications with few changes in the next two years. (That doesn't mean Macs with ARM processors, every developer runs iOS applications on their Mac in a simulator today).
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There will be new models of the XS, XS-Max and XR next year, with improvements, and at the same price today. Except in the UK, where the pound will crash totally against the dollar, increasing the price by 20%.

There is a noticeable difference with text IMO between the devices. My 8+ at 401ppi has sharper text than the XR (326ppi.) The same applies to the XS. I've spent a good amount of time evaluating. If I were an individual that spent the majority of time viewing video I don't imagine it would be an issue for me. However, I spend 95% of the time on my device reading text. I notice it. :apple:
 
Maybe portrait mode for non-humans will come with a future software update?

Out of curiosity, if it doesn’t, will you upgrade to the XS/XS Max successor come fall?
Not sure yet. My wife is due to upgrade this year-she still has her 7 Plus. However, she’s not at all in to phones so if she doesn’t upgrade and those features aren’t added to the XR, I’ll probably upgrade to the smaller of the XS replacements. Although, I do love my XR and it makes much more sense to replace my Series 2 Apple Watch with the Series 5 model.
 
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