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Do you think it would be tacky or lame to get a Steve Jobs quote as a tattoo?
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Surely being respectful includes considering whatever response you might be given by the party you're decided to criticize?
Well, firstly, I am not from the US.
And yes, I have worked with military and police, and yes, I am aware that some of them were tattooed. Others, who are neither police nor military, also sport tattoos, and some of these live in a world that I do not much care for, and their tattoos advertise that fact.
The OP asked for opinions, and it is his body to do with as he wishes. He is quite right to state that the IT world is probably less concerned and judgmental about such things than are most other professional environments.
Many on this thread have stated that tattoos are 'not their thing'. My point is that they are polarising, and those who dislike them, tend to dislike them intensely.
Re my comment on 'risk analysis', you will find that most women run them on most individuals whom they meet for the first time. It is part of the background noise of a woman's life.
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On these threads when someone asks for an opinion, in my experience, much of the time, they tend to wish for to hear an ardent confirmation of (rather than any criticism of) a course of action that they have already decided upon.
Wrong. I was not criticizing anyone, simply setting the record straight. And bickering is a form of Violating the rules and terms and conditions of the forum. And I respectfully, again respectfully, declined to receive a comment. Any other questions?
Well, as I have said, it is the OP's choice to make, not anyone else's. He asked for advice, opinions - and thoughts - on a thread that he has started, and some here have responded with thoughts, and suggestions.
Besides, in common with @mobilehaathi, were I ever to contemplate any sort of small (discreet) tattoo, it would not take the form of words. An image strikes me as a somewhat better choice than quotes attributed to Mr Jobs.
Besides, in common with @mobilehaathi, were I ever to contemplate any sort of small (discreet) tattoo, it would not take the form of words. An image strikes me as a somewhat better choice than quotes attributed to Mr Jobs.
Each to their own.
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I wonder if this person still thinks it is a relevant tattoo?
Certinly a conversation starter!
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I wonder if this person still thinks it is a relevant tattoo?
Certinly a conversation starter!
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One of these maybe?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/onmarke...apples-think-different-campaign/#5e4398d55c22
Personally I don't think I'd get a tattoo. If I ever do, it'll be something meaningful about someone I loved, not from the CEO of a tech company.
Bravo. Thanks for that - I am actually laughing reading it.
Now, while I like my coffee (is the beverage depicted in that cup tea or coffee?), I can't see myself every taking it to that extreme.
And as for the Apple designation.........well, each to their own. But not for me.
"Don't let the noise of others' opinions drown out your own inner voice."
I feel that it is your body and you should be free to do with it as you please.. kinda like that quote, eh?
Oh, I see, you're going to engage in unilateral criticism under the guise of 'setting the record straight.' Your copious use of the word 'respectfully' actually comes across as remarkably snide.
Oh well, no use talking to a wall.
At least those with thin skin, right? I was actually thinking 'Snarky' versus snide, try harder next time. Engaging in an argument with you is exactly what your seeking. Fortunately, technology has permitted me with the privilege of a 'Block' button. Have a splendid evening!
Walls are good; well built walls can sometimes be an expression of the engineer's art. After all, the Romans built some wonderful ones (cue, what did the Romans.....).
Now, granted, some of the modern incarnations of walls - in thought, and in execution and, indeed, in deed, have left a good lot to be desired.
But - are walls better - and more informed - conversationalists than hot air balloons?
I admire your choice of Steve Jobs quotes.
I don't care for tattoos on anyone, I'm afraid. I find them deeply unattractive on both men and women. Contrary to what you might think, that a tattoo is a mark of individuality, it is actually a sub-summation of your individuality, and a sign that you belong to a pack of people who have tattoos. You may be fine with that, but it will permanently create a sense of alienation with those who don't. I have met lots of pleasant people with tattoos, but it is impossible to get past the mark to find the person.
I don't care for tattoos on anyone, I'm afraid. I find them deeply unattractive on both men and women. Contrary to what you might think, that a tattoo is a mark of individuality, it is actually a sub-summation of your individuality, and a sign that you belong to a pack of people who have tattoos. You may be fine with that, but it will permanently create a sense of alienation with those who don't. I have met lots of pleasant people with tattoos, but it is impossible to get past the mark to find the person.
I've got ink in a couple of places (each forearm) but I didn't start doing it until I was over 60. I've got a couple more in mind for when I get around to it. They are all very simple one-color designs.
In these tattoo discussions I rarely or never read any discussion about where in the world (or the US) the person lives. I'm sure it's true that in some places and some contexts being inked is going to hurt one's job prospects. But definitely not everywhere. Where I live (Hawai'i) being inked is considered quite normal and no one's going to miss out on a job because of tattoos. For example, I'd guess that 75% of the staff at my HMO are inked and there's a lot of ink showing at my bank, too.
The OP did ask about phrases. I see them here -- often religious -- and I don't admire them. Not because of the content, but because of the way they look. I see a lot of fancy fonts and ornate lettering and to my eye, that doesn't work. I don't think that something you have inked on your skin should require an effort to read -- should need to be read, literally, at all. I much prefer tattoos as designs.
All I'm suggesting, OP, is that you ask yourself whether you want people looking at your tattoo to say "cool design," or "what does that say? And why?"
Depending on your age, there's also the issue of a phrase that over time might lose its meaning for you -- what then? George Carlin had a funny bit about what to do if you're in love with Mary and have "Mary" inked on you -- but then you and Mary break up. Easy, he said, go back to the parlor and add the F-word just above "Mary."
In these tattoo discussions I rarely or never read any discussion about where in the world (or the US) the person lives. I'm sure it's true that in some places and some contexts being inked is going to hurt one's job prospects. But definitely not everywhere. Where I live (Hawai'i) being inked is considered quite normal and no one's going to miss out on a job because of tattoos. For example, I'd guess that 75% of the staff at my HMO are inked and there's a lot of ink showing at my bank, too.
The OP did ask about phrases. I see them here -- often religious -- and I don't admire them. Not because of the content, but because of the way they look. I see a lot of fancy fonts and ornate lettering and to my eye, that doesn't work. I don't think that something you have inked on your skin should require an effort to read -- should need to be read, literally, at all. I much prefer tattoos as designs.
All I'm suggesting, OP, is that you ask yourself whether you want people looking at your tattoo to say "cool design," or "what does that say? And why?"
Depending on your age, there's also the issue of a phrase that over time might lose its meaning for you -- what then? George Carlin had a funny bit about what to do if you're in love with Mary and have "Mary" inked on you -- but then you and Mary break up. Easy, he said, go back to the parlor and add the F-word just above "Mary."
Quotes are ok as long as you don't put his face or name on there. That would be tacky, lame and all other things.
What inspirational saying would you have chosen 30 years ago in 1986? Would you still be happy with that today?
if you really want to /show/ that it has an impact on your life, live what it says. getting a tatoo especially of quote is about as tacky as it comes to answer your question
Where would it go? Forehead, lower back just above the buttock, bicep?
I'll concur with another post about regret, old tattoos look old too. In the Phillipines, decades ago, I saw a grizzled old retired sailor covered in tattoos and was immediately convinced no tattoos for me. Of course that was in the days were the only way to to get rid of them was sandpaper. Improvements in technology have been made since then. 
Just remember any tattoo you get today will have a different saying in 30 years when things sag and wrinkle.
Okay, I hadn't read that bit earlier.
I think that's a lovely idea. Something to commemorate a close friend or family member I can understand.
If it was someone you knew personally it's a quite different matter from a "celeb CEO".
I will prefice this by saying I don't like tattoos in the slightest and therefore I am opinionated.
I think getting a quote from a business icon shows a bit too much fanboyism. Also, while Steve Jobs is now remembered as a visionary (and I assume always will be), what if Apple tanks? Will societies opinion of Steve become distorted. Like in 2007 BlackBerry was cool, now they're a joke. Or AOL. Just a thought.
I think getting a quote from a business icon shows a bit too much fanboyism. Also, while Steve Jobs is now remembered as a visionary (and I assume always will be), what if Apple tanks? Will societies opinion of Steve become distorted. Like in 2007 BlackBerry was cool, now they're a joke. Or AOL. Just a thought.
Is it not a tad ironic or strange that you ask us this question (random strangers) given the quote you are considering having tattooed ?
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However whatever you do please choose wisely, if you are a male having something like the notorius "you're holding it wrong" line tattooed on a certain area of the body, it could cause quite a few blushes
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My take on this, is rather personal.
I've contemplated getting a (or some) tattoo, and at some point I may very well take the plunge.
What I would generally avoid doing:
Corporate logos, while the apple logo is iconic, no question, how I feel about Apple today is different then I did in 1999, or 1984. Likewise, you see some folks with the Monster energy drink tat. I'm not sure about that.
As a subset of that thought, would be a tattoo of Jobs, he was only a human being, but so many people have deified him, I just don't see the worth of getting him tattooed on my body. I think tattoos are deeply personal and this brings me to another point.
I want to avoid the fads, this includes the tribal stuff which has not aged very well, or the YOLO, or any other tat that seems to strike the nerve of society.
What I do want, is something that is personal, means something to me and allows that meaning to be expressed on my skin. I'm not trying to sound melodramatic or overly deep/serious but given how tattoos are fairly permenant I want to think long and hard before getting inked.
I've contemplated getting a (or some) tattoo, and at some point I may very well take the plunge.
What I would generally avoid doing:
Corporate logos, while the apple logo is iconic, no question, how I feel about Apple today is different then I did in 1999, or 1984. Likewise, you see some folks with the Monster energy drink tat. I'm not sure about that.
As a subset of that thought, would be a tattoo of Jobs, he was only a human being, but so many people have deified him, I just don't see the worth of getting him tattooed on my body. I think tattoos are deeply personal and this brings me to another point.
I want to avoid the fads, this includes the tribal stuff which has not aged very well, or the YOLO, or any other tat that seems to strike the nerve of society.
What I do want, is something that is personal, means something to me and allows that meaning to be expressed on my skin. I'm not trying to sound melodramatic or overly deep/serious but given how tattoos are fairly permenant I want to think long and hard before getting inked.
Quotes as tattoos always strike me as being a little... lame.
The amount of people who you see with quotes like: "if you can't handle me at my worst, you don't deserve me at my best" inked on; as if they're bitterly unique and oh such a special flower; but in reality it just comes across as pseudo-philosophical nonsense and makes them look even stupider.
Urgh, I've been trying to phrase this gently and I'm just failing miserably. Maybe somebody who understands what I'm trying to say could be a little more articulate. Hope you don't mind the nomination, @Scepticalscribe!
The amount of people who you see with quotes like: "if you can't handle me at my worst, you don't deserve me at my best" inked on; as if they're bitterly unique and oh such a special flower; but in reality it just comes across as pseudo-philosophical nonsense and makes them look even stupider.
Urgh, I've been trying to phrase this gently and I'm just failing miserably. Maybe somebody who understands what I'm trying to say could be a little more articulate. Hope you don't mind the nomination, @Scepticalscribe!