Doubts and Speculation Surround Apple's Onstage Face ID 'Fail' During iPhone X Keynote [Updated]

I'll wait for the professional reviews for a truer take on Face ID. They will have had ample time to use Face-ID and also try to trick it. It worked 2nd try during the demo. Seems OK to me. Certainly the early days of Touch ID gen 1 were hardly flawless. New tech is always going to have its glitches even in release hardware. Doesn't matter who the maker is.

That said I do think the software might not just be ready for Prime Time and could be an additional reason, other than h/w manufacturing that the phone won't launch until Nov. I say that because from the reports by major outlets like WSJ, their reporters were not allowed to upload their faces during the demo. I get Apple can't let all 600 whatever reporters do this -- not practical. But Apple PR can -- and has in the past -- invited select reporters to a private session to test out new features before they get their review unit to load up the buzz stream with chatter.
 
Going to wait for reviews.

FaceID failed once that we've seen, but before we start slamming it for being a failure, think of how many times TouchID doesn't always work right away. it's really good, but it's not perfect either.
 
Rogifan said:
You really think after taking it out and saying face detection is better Apple is going to add it back? Sorry unless Face ID is a complete failure, Touch ID is gone for good.
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I think if they continue working on getting it functional under the screen they could bring it back with Face ID as "choice" or two factor biometric. I'm not holding my breath but I see it as possible without a PR nightmare. I think the original plan wasn't to replace Touch ID and the real failure was in trying to get that tech working under the screen.
 
I agree with the 3rd idea that it failed to recognise, and my guess for the reason is due to untested bright stage lighting.
 
All the same haters that doubted the fingerprint sensor. When retinalID is released they'll scream about how it won't be as good as faceID.
 
By the by, the decrease in stock price is across the board in tech stocks. There's concern there's a bubble in the stock market that's getting ready to pop. Specifically tech stocks.
 
"Multiple neural networks" -- marketing BS, baloney. The so called neural networks (a standard AI trope) are simulations, standard code running on a digital processor. They can never match the capabilities of even a simple, biological neural network.
 
Nothing to conclude from that apparent failure. We'll find out soon. In the meantime, MacRumors, following the spirit of its name, publishes several hundred words about nothing as if it was something in that fantastic housewives' style we like so much. We love housewives too.
 
Couldn't there be a fourth explanation? As in the demo unit was the wrong one (not registered to Craig?) Seems unlikely, but people make mistakes and if you have 20 demo devices sitting around near the stage it could happen.
 
I really hope its reliable because this demo has made me not want the new iPhone. I am now considering the 6S as I already promised my 6S to my wife and its a great phone (and I do use the headphone jack and I already hate dongles with my MacBook Pro I can't imagine having to search for a dongle for headphones too)
 
GoodWheaties said:
That "1 in 50000" number seems pretty bad for how secure they were telling us TouchID was. That means in the US alone there would be over 6000 people who could unlock my phone. That just seems preposterous as I haven't heard of a single story where someone was able to unlock someone else's iPhone. Are they trying to pump up FaceID?
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6000 sounds like a lot of people but try locating one of those specific 6000 people in the population of 300MM. If you line up 50000 random people and have them each try to unlock your phone one may succeed.
 
AcesHigh87 said:
Do you have proof of this claim? I go to bed and don't touch my phone for 6+ hours and Touch ID still works perfectly fine when I get up. The only time I need to enter my passcode is when my phone is restarted or my hands are particularly sweaty / dirty.
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My understanding is there's a 48 hour inactivity before the touch ID is disabled.
 
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