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Downgraded to 7.1.2 from 8 GM

Paddle1 said:
What about this:

Known Issue
Shazam with Siri and Purchase iTunes Content with Siri are not functional in the GM seed. They will be available once iOS 8 is released to the general public.

Could this be a change between them? Or is it something server side.
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These are both server-side. For example, all of your Siri commands are sent to an Apple server, and the result is sent back to you. (Hence why Siri won't work if you try to use it when you don't have cell service and you're not on Wifi, eve if your commands to Siri are related to information already on your phone, liek if you tell it to set an alarm for 8am). Apple is likely now prepping the servers that handle the Siri commands the mass requests.

Purchase iTunes Content is also processed server-side, I imagine, since it has to process the transaction, and likely falls into the same category.
 
Having restored fresh with the GM image and still seeing the same laggy behaviour as before (documented in earlier posts) I am going to have to recommend people not upgrade on launch day. It will always take some period of time between launch and third party developers catching up and maybe even a dot upgrade to the OS before everything runs smoothly.

I'd give it about a month post launch before everything is up to 100% again.

Of course, if you don't care about 100% smoothness and can live with the occasional hang or glitch or stutter then by all means be my guest and upgrade straight away.

And as always YMMV.
 
Very few issues on my iPhone 5. Certainly a lot smoother than the iOS 7 GM in my opinion.

Settings crashed once and a few apps have behaviour or crash, but they will need updating. Apps that have already received updates are working fine.

I did an update so might try a clean install soon.
 
ErikGrim said:
Having restored fresh with the GM image and still seeing the same laggy behaviour as before (documented in earlier posts) I am going to have to recommend people not upgrade on launch day. It will always take some period of time between launch and third party developers catching up and maybe even a dot upgrade to the OS before everything runs smoothly.

I'd give it about a month post launch before everything is up to 100% again.

Of course, if you don't care about 100% smoothness and can live with the occasional hang or glitch or stutter then by all means be my guest and upgrade straight away.

And as always YMMV.
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Worser than iOS 7.0 release? Cause only iOS 7.1 fixed majority of bugs and brought back smoothness.
 
ErikGrim said:
Having restored fresh with the GM image and still seeing the same laggy behaviour as before (documented in earlier posts) I am going to have to recommend people not upgrade on launch day. It will always take some period of time between launch and third party developers catching up and maybe even a dot upgrade to the OS before everything runs smoothly.

I'd give it about a month post launch before everything is up to 100% again.

Of course, if you don't care about 100% smoothness and can live with the occasional hang or glitch or stutter then by all means be my guest and upgrade straight away.

And as always YMMV.
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I'm all for running beta software but not a "beta" final version. I already learned my lesson from that on ios7 haha. With SMS relay being delayed, I see no reason to upgrade. (No handoff on Mac; plus I wouldn't use it anyways) I'll stick with 7.1.2 for stability.
 
Can't tell how happy I am after downgrading back to 7.1.2

8 has absolutely NO useful features. (For Me)
 
The graphical effects are exact same as iOS 7. So why do animations stutter?
The translucency was already there in iOS 7 so then why do we see lag everywhere?

It's not like they have added (HBAO) Horizon Based Ambient Occlusion, Pixel Shader based water effects or Soft Anti-aliased shadows anywhere.

That is the reason I feel enraged. Our phones and tablets from iPad Air down to iPhone 5/5c are perfectly capable of smooth animations. That is my number 1 complaint of iOS 8.
 
MinEderPlayz said:
The problem is, even though the GM will be released to the public, a. you have probably been on beta and did a backup. That can corrupt software. and b. you're not supposed to have the software as a non developer. Let me guess, $8 UDID registration??
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Um pretty sure "B" has nothing to do with any issues anyone may be having and no UDID registration required for GM version. Maybe a bad guess? Just don't get why some are so uptight about the "beta/developers only" subject. I could care less who gets and installs beta software for iOS, Windows, or any other software available. To each his own and as long as they assume the risk who cares. With that said iOS 8 GM is not horrible but not really as ready as 7.1.2 is either. Even with stock apps. Hopefully once iOS 8 version apps are ready it will get better but that wont help with the current issues with any built in apps, lag, stutter, or whatever other issues some folks seem to be having currently. iOS 7 was pretty lethargic until 7.1. Not uncommon for x.0 firmware to have a few optimization issues.
 
I am not having any of these issues to be honest. My 5S battery seems actually better. And I'm loving the speed of it.

It's working really well for me.
 
darkfiber said:
After you have backed up your iPhone, maybe try and do a clean install of the iOS 8 GM and don't install any apps and see how the performance is with just the default configuration. That way you can perhaps rule out issues with certain apps that need to be updated for 8.0 or something that might have gone wrong with the update?
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Think I'm going to have do an OTA upgrade using my work wifi as I've just moved house and don't have home broadband, unfortunately.
 
I went back to 7.1.2 on my iPad Air and it's nice and smooth again. Ios 8 is a lag fest. Especially the keyboard and stuttering home screen and home button presses.
 
nfl46 said:
iOS 8 is a fail for you. Just stick to 7.1.2 when iOS 8 officially comes out next week. You won't be forced to upgrade. :)
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If Apple plays the stealth crap they did in Sept 2013 for iOS6->iOS7 - where everybody in the known world suddenly (and mysteriously) had a huge ass firmware update file - "pushed" to their device without their knowledge as soon as said device was plugged into a charger and remained on wi-fi...you can be darned sure that Apple will be "forcing" you to update.

So you can either take steps to prevent it (NEVER plug your phone/ipad in with wi-fi enabled) or you can simply live with this huge file taking up gobs of space on your iDevice until the end of time.

I won't be falling for that crap during this next cycle. I will upgrade - but on my terms.

Cheers,

Sonic.
 
Back to 7.1.2 on iphone 5 and 5c + retina mini. iOS 8 needs some refinement! I am sure Apple will fix in forthcoming updates....
 
farleysmaster said:
Can I be really geeky and ask if anyone knows if the MD5 hashes have been compared (particularly for iPhone 5c?)
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Saw a post in another thread (can't recall which one) where someone mentioned that an MD5 comparison they did (can't recall which model phone exactly) was the same.
 
So I (stupidly) updated to iOS 8 on my iPhone 4S and it's a bit laggy and slow.

I got hold of the iOS 7.1.2 file so I was able downgrade back to that OK. But when I did, iTunes now won't let me restore from a backup (to restore my settings etc) because it says the backups are iOS8 but my phone is on 7.1.2.

For most of my iPhone's data that's not a problem. My email and calendars are in the cloud (Gmail) and my apps, music and photos are on my Mac - so restoring all that is straightforward, if a tad longwinded.

But it's my Messages (texts, iMessages, SMS) that I really want to save.

As iTunes won't let me restore from a backup, I can't put my Messages back onto my iPhone if it's running 7.1.2. I have 3+ years of Messages and would really like them on my phone.

Am I missing a crucial step here or doing something wrong?

I've temporarily reverted back to iOS8 and restored everything (including Messages) but would really like to be able to downgrade back to 7.1.2 (with my Messages history) while Apple are still signing the file.

Help appreciated!
 
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spangled said:
So I (stupidly) updated to iOS 8 on my iPhone 4S and it's a bit laggy and slow.

I got hold of the iOS 7.1.2 file so I was able downgrade back to that OK. But when I did, iTunes now won't let me restore from a backup (to restore my settings etc) because it says the backups are iOS8 but my phone is on 7.1.2.

For most of my iPhone's data that's not a problem. My email and calendars are in the cloud (Gmail) and my apps, music and photos are on my Mac - so restoring all that is straightforward, if a tad longwinded.

But it's my Messages (texts, iMessages, SMS) that I really want to save.

As iTunes won't let me restore from a backup, I can't put my Messages back onto my iPhone if it's running 7.1.2. I have 3+ years of Messages and would really like them on my phone.

Am I missing a crucial step here or doing something wrong?

I've temporarily reverted back to iOS8 and restored everything (including Messages) but would really like to be able to downgrade back to 7.1.2 (with my Messages history) while Apple are still signing the file.

Help appreciated!
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No, once you go to ios 8, all of your data will depend on ios 8. You can't use that data on ios 7
 
spangled said:
So I (stupidly) updated to iOS 8 on my iPhone 4S and it's a bit laggy and slow.

I got hold of the iOS 7.1.2 file so I was able downgrade back to that OK. But when I did, iTunes now won't let me restore from a backup (to restore my settings etc) because it says the backups are iOS8 but my phone is on 7.1.2.

For most of my iPhone's data that's not a problem. My email and calendars are in the cloud (Gmail) and my apps, music and photos are on my Mac - so restoring all that is straightforward, if a tad longwinded.

But it's my Messages (texts, iMessages, SMS) that I really want to save.

As iTunes won't let me restore from a backup, I can't put my Messages back onto my iPhone if it's running 7.1.2. I have 3+ years of Messages and would really like them on my phone.

Am I missing a crucial step here or doing something wrong?

I've temporarily reverted back to iOS8 and restored everything (including Messages) but would really like to be able to downgrade back to 7.1.2 (with my Messages history) while Apple are still signing the file.

Help appreciated!
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There is a way to do this. I did this but with a ios8 beta 5 backup using I backupbot and some Sql magic. Unfortunately ibackupbot doesn't support the final version of ios8 so it will be tricky.
 
What people tend to forget is that not everyone has the same apps installed causing varying levels of issues. Slow down can be down to apps crashing in the background hogging the memory before crashing..

Not sure without looking at logs what it's likely to be? Do all devices have similar apps?
 
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