So if your daughter told you her raped her, when she was 11, but it was 25 years ago, you'd be fine, as hey it was 25 years ago?
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Dr. Dre Addresses Abuse Accusations With Apology, Apple Releases Supporting Statement
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So if your daughter told you her raped her, when she was 11, but it was 25 years ago, you'd be fine, as hey it was 25 years ago?
I agree that the Beats acquisition was a mistake. I really don't like Apple Music. Rdio always seemed like the most elegant Apple-like streaming service to me. I wish they had bought that and kept it entirely separate from iTunes.
As for Dr. Dre, I find it difficult to muster up much of an opinion about some grubby encounter in a nightclub a quarter of a century ago.
But what about someone who apologizes for their hypocrisy? Not sure I see the distinction. Forgiveness is forgiveness.
What we have here is Tim Cook telling us all: Look, we paid a billion dollars for this guy, so you're all going to shut up and take this apology. Take it!
Look it up before you scoff. Nevermind, you're probably a drone.
Apple and Timmy paid/bought/hired him. I would love to see it blow-up in their face. They will have earned it.
So the message here is "its okay to do all these evil things" because I will apologize 25, 50 years from now. So kids today can look up to people like these and say, hey I'm young, I can do all this "evil" "mean" stuff and I'll be forgiven later on because I'll apologize for it. Something inherently wrong with this thinking. The message should be, "don't do any of this stuff...period". Young or old. If you did, then you deserve punishment.
Personally I have forgiven him because he was convicted numerous times and served his sentences. But forgiveness isn't really up to us in the first place because we aren't one of his victims. I wonder how they feel today.
If you pay any attention to violence against women (or domestic abuse in general) you'll know that the reported incidents are the tip of the iceberg, especially when the abuser is a powerful, rich, or famous person, and Dr Dre is all three. So we don't know the whole extent or period of abuse, but we do know that it is likely that the incidents we know about are not the whole of the matter. We also that beyond the beatings themselves, he later used his influence to harm the careers of at least one of the women who dared speak about it.
Because Straight Outta Compton was not released 25 years ago, it was released last week. The film is supposedly biographical, but these pretty significative events in the life of Dr Dre were omitted. Hence the discussion.
...but omitting it from the movie is exactly that...pretending it didn't happen. There was no apology statement before this issue was brought back to the surface.
Ok. That is brilliant. Sorry, but ignore the actions themselves just for one second and just look at the one liner that is, again, brilliant.
Simply put, you're wrong. Regular people recover and reform their lives all the time. You just don't hear about it... cuz regular people. Just in this forum alone I bet we could get dozens of stories of forum members or their friends, family, and acquaintances who have overcome troubled pasts. Fact is, most people get the opportunity to turn their lives around. Question is, do they do it. Celebrity has nothing to do with it.
Pretty good amongst conservatives actually. Isn't Ted Nugent like his new butt buddy or something?
He has done some horrible stuff. I read a while back that he shot at his woman and barely missed (Michel'le http://www.eurweb.com/2015/04/michelle-remembers-when-dr-dre-shot-at-her-watch/). Ultimately, he has apologized for it and he and the women have moved on unless some are wanting some of his money now.
For those of y'all that are acting holier than thou, I sure hope your info doesn't pop up in the Ashley Madison hack dump files.
For those of y'all that are acting holier than thou, I sure hope your info doesn't pop up in the Ashley Madison hack dump files.
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I never understood why Tim Cook hooked up with Dre. He has a very infamous past that includes convictions for multiple assaults on women and has super misogynistic songs ("B*tches aint sh*t but h*es and tricks" from The Chronic is but one example). This seems to fly in the face of Cook's progressive push for gay rights, increased diversity in the workforce, etc. It's even more puzzling when you have Apple employees like Zane Lowe on Beats 1 claiming the Chronic album changed his life.
Lol. Conspiracy theorists always think everyone else is a "drone" or a "sheep". The government told me you would say that...
Personally, I would never forgive him, as nobody should, but if after 25 years he can convince me he's truly sorry, and has been working to improve himself for the majority of that time, I'd understand. I still wouldn't forgive him, wouldn't want him near my daughter or even in my own community, naturally, but I'd at least understand, and I wouldn't consider him a threat so long as he sticks to his new sense of self.