listen bingeciren, if that's your real name, I'll have you know that he is a Dr. of dope-ass beats. End of story.
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Dr. Dre Addresses Abuse Accusations With Apology, Apple Releases Supporting Statement
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I really know way to little about what he did and what happened and so on. But from my gut feeling I do not like the guy and I am not happy that Apple is ascociated with him.
I understand the cynicism, but whenever I see lawyer apologies, they go something like, "I'm sorry if you were hurt by things I may or may not have done," rather than, "I apologize to the women I've hurt. I deeply regret what I did and know that it has forever impacted all of our lives."
I don't know any of this quy's music; it's not my style. I was just calling it as I saw it.
This sounds like a sincere, heartfelt apology. This is an example of how to behave. Quite different from most of the politicians and other celebrity ******s we hear about. I have heard from people who know him that he is a really good family man in person who cares about people and his family. Given all the hypocrisy we see in the news, media and the world in general, his apology and statement is refreshing.
The title "Dr." doesn't actually have any meaning today, other than we politely entertain doctors' pretentious desires to be special. It would be a misrepresentation of his credentials if he put down a medical degree or a doctorate degree under the list of his education on his C.V.
It might be a misrepresentation of his credentials, as well as several other crimes, he responded to a plea for medical help from someone injured yelling "I need a doctor!" and began trying to administer medical aid. However, I doubt he would do that...
And also of doctoring other people's beats. Perhaps one of the worst industry secrets ever is that Dre uses ghost producers. Makes a tweak here and there calls it his. He is still technically the producer of the song but there are many many beats under his name that he didn't create but takes credit for. These things were also left out of the movie.
Let's face it: He probably is the government. If there is still indeed a government aside from The United States of Goldman Sachs.
He's an extremely influential musician and pioneer of electronic music, melodies and culture. He has created a large body of pop music and is now working at arguably the most pioneering and influential technology company int eh world today, helping to direct their efforts enabling people to enjoy music.
What are you doing with your life?
I dunno. The government can't even get congress to agree to fix some roads, yet we believe them to not only organize a conspiracy of this magnitude successfully, but also find someone with a sense of rhythm willing to work for them?
I mean have you seen the people in government? I wouldn't expect them to be able lay down some phat bassy beats even if their life depended on.
Meanwhile, everybody has no problem watching reruns of Two and a Half Men.
We also watch Mark Walberg movies, and rave about Chinatown.
It sounds to me like a sincere apology. I don't mind Duggar's flaws as a kid -- though it's really not every brother who does that with his sisters, and he needs real therapy and facing the truth. What I have objection to is that he was the political director of a right-wing institute, the Family Research Council, and put up as a holier-than-thou role model. The basic premise of having 19 children as a sign of morality is extremely dubious to me. And how truly repentant was this wonderful guy? Repentant enough to close his account at Ashley Madison? No.
Dre came out of Compton at its most violent. He seems to me to have rescued an artistic career out of all that. He's one hell of a producer, and his most recent album is a gem. He never pretended to be a moral paragon, but he seems to have some basic integrity.
The label "Dr." has a very clear and specific meaning: peer reviewed expertise. Do you think it's pretentious for someone to call their car theirs just because they bought it? Is Michael Jordan pretentious because he claims to have multiple championships just because he won them? Why speak down about someone with a degree just because they earned it?
Medicine isn't the only thing you can be an expert in.
I think what he did to Dee Barnes sounds horrible, and a company like Apple really should have thought twice about associating with someone with that kind of history. However, I also think that people do need to be given second chances in life if they deserve it. I can't really say if he has earned that or not, but in general I think a healthy society is one that rehabilitates and forgives where it's earned.
In regards to Eminem's Guilty Conscience, I always thought of Dre not nixing the Dee Barnes reference as a way of admitting publicly that it's not something he can bury and pretend didn't happen. Sort of him facing that he deserves to have it shoved back in his face by his friends and relive the pain he inflicted on someone else that he apparently apologizes for now.
Allowing people to pay for the wrongs they've done and not be defined by their mistakes is a tough proposition to embrace.
I appreciate your post which made me chuckle. But just because a bunch of bought-off gimps in a big room in Washington D.C. don't bother allocating money to fixing bridges and paving roads, doesn't mean that the "mainstream media" couldn't have conspired to induce widespread urban violence and racial animosity across America by introducing hate propaganda in the form of gangsta rap. In fact, that's exactly what happened.
You try becoming a billionaire as a convicted felon in this country. Or even holding down a menial job. Doesn't matter how sorry you are or how much you turn your life around. A very low glass ceiling is permanently fixed over your head. Dr. Dre is not typical of regular people.
What do you feel should be done with people who make mistakes? What is and isn't acceptable for Dre to do with his life in your eyes? What would you want to know about every Apple employee to vet whether they are or are not allowed to be employed? And if you deem them not worthy, what can they do in life that you would find acceptable? I think we need your guidelines so we know how to judge everyone.
I'm not religious in any way but reading these comments one thing keeps coming to mind:
"Let he whom is without sin cast the first stone."
I have no reason to think the apology is not sincere, and without any evidance to the contrary I will accept it as such. Everyone here, whether they admit it or not was a kid once and did stupid/immoral/illegal things. Ok maybe you never beat someone or almost killed someone. Good for you, you were lucky to never be in a situation where it came up. He was and has apparently grown enough to learn the error of his ways. I know a lot who didn't. A lot that would just reply "well, those were different times" and be done with it. A lot that ended up behind bars. A lot that ended up on a slab.
If you didn't you should be thankful for your good fortune, not critical of one who had a rougher path in life. Actually most of the criticisms here strike more more than a little of petty jealousy, sanctimonious envy, and holier than though hypocrisy. This reminds me of another thought:
"Don't criticize someone until you've walked a mile in their shoes."
One of the most pernicious faults in the West today is an unwillingness to forgive. There seems to be a misunderstanding of what forgiveness means. It does not mean to say what someone did as good. It does not mean an implied acceptance of the act whenever someone else does it. Forgiveness means that you accept that the person is contrite for what they have done, seen the error of their ways, and admitted their faults and work to never do anything like it again. then you give them a chance to prove themselves. That's forgiveness Charlie Brown. There is not nearly enough of it in the world today. Far too many people are willing to throw away a person because of a past mistake. To make them a pariah forever and never let them do anything but live in a cave with scorpions wearing nothing but a hair shirt.
These same people would be astonished when someone else would do the same to them for something they truly sorry for. They are the modern day Pharisees.
"Let he whom is without sin cast the first stone."
I have no reason to think the apology is not sincere, and without any evidance to the contrary I will accept it as such. Everyone here, whether they admit it or not was a kid once and did stupid/immoral/illegal things. Ok maybe you never beat someone or almost killed someone. Good for you, you were lucky to never be in a situation where it came up. He was and has apparently grown enough to learn the error of his ways. I know a lot who didn't. A lot that would just reply "well, those were different times" and be done with it. A lot that ended up behind bars. A lot that ended up on a slab.
If you didn't you should be thankful for your good fortune, not critical of one who had a rougher path in life. Actually most of the criticisms here strike more more than a little of petty jealousy, sanctimonious envy, and holier than though hypocrisy. This reminds me of another thought:
"Don't criticize someone until you've walked a mile in their shoes."
One of the most pernicious faults in the West today is an unwillingness to forgive. There seems to be a misunderstanding of what forgiveness means. It does not mean to say what someone did as good. It does not mean an implied acceptance of the act whenever someone else does it. Forgiveness means that you accept that the person is contrite for what they have done, seen the error of their ways, and admitted their faults and work to never do anything like it again. then you give them a chance to prove themselves. That's forgiveness Charlie Brown. There is not nearly enough of it in the world today. Far too many people are willing to throw away a person because of a past mistake. To make them a pariah forever and never let them do anything but live in a cave with scorpions wearing nothing but a hair shirt.
These same people would be astonished when someone else would do the same to them for something they truly sorry for. They are the modern day Pharisees.
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