People can change but this apology reeks of being carefully crafted by a high price PR firm.
It is. Apple needed some kind of response to the Gawker article.
People can change but this apology reeks of being carefully crafted by a high price PR firm.
I'm way out of my zone commenting on Hip Hop.
The title "Dr." doesn't actually have any meaning today, other than we politely entertain doctors' pretentious desires to be special. It would be a misrepresentation of his credentials if he put down a medical degree or a doctorate degree under the list of his education on his C.V.
It might be a misrepresentation of his credentials, as well as several other crimes, he responded to a plea for medical help from someone injured yelling "I need a doctor!" and began trying to administer medical aid. However, I doubt he would do that...
That might be one of those 1 out of 100 situations. But when it comes to things like...
...this? No. Consequences do have actions, sure. But the joke, while tasteless, was entirely misinterpreted, and the resulting punishment far exceeded the crime.
I'm of the opinion that you can call people stupid on the internet, and disagree with them until the cows come home. But when you start messing with someone's livelihood just because they said something you didn't like? There's no excuse for that.
I don't know anything about the incident you are describing and I've mentioned that people do overreact but...if she hadn't posted in the first place, nothing would have happened...
Yup can't understand why Apple a company who was headed by a guy that went out of his way to deny his own daughter. And pay the least amount of child support as possible, would do business with a guy like Dr. Dre.
Yup, can't understand why.....
That's a real apology. No excuses, admits fault, and shows that he's trying to be a better man.
I admire that he realizes that he made a mistake, and respect him for working to be a better man.
I don't know what he's done in the last 25 years, but I hope that it shows him progressively becoming better.
Heck, I'm not proud of some things I did this week. :/I'm sure we all aren't proud of the foolish and dumb mistakes we made in our 20s.
Heck, I'm not proud of some things I did this week. :/
I take it you know his writing style well, as well as his lawyers to be able to spot the difference. Correct? Well then, I can certainly understand your viewpoint. I'd prefer to give people the benefit of the doubt rather than be cynical and expect the worst. Perhaps he's full of ****, perhaps he's not. I can understand what he's saying, so I personally hope he's being honest. This may surprise you, but even a wealthy man can tell the truth.
To me, that's kinda like saying "yeah, that kid might've ended up getting his skull caved in, but if he didn't flick that guy in the nads with that Tonka truck, it never would've happened".
There's that other story about that one woman who heard two guys behind her making stupid, juvenile jokes about dongles or something at some industry even or another. Instead of giving them a death glare, then rolling her eyes like she should've, she went straight to the internet to try and start a shaming event. It ended up blowing up in everyone's faces. The whole thing was 15 different kinds of dumb, and three people lost their jobs because of it.
Actions do have consequences, but they should be proportional.
As for the women I mentioned earlier on, here you go. To me, it's endemic of everything that's wrong with the internet mob scene.
I think it's safe to conclude you don't know much about the music industry. There's no guarantee he wrote the lyrics to any of those songs. He certainly didn't write for NWA; Cube did. The music industry has people who do nothing but write lyrics for other artists. For the sake of argument, let's say he did write those lyrics. How could you say, because he wrote the lyrics, he couldn't write the apology?Here are a few examples of his writing style, if you're not familiar. Favorites such as:
"Fu** Wit Dre Day"
"B*tches Ain't Shi*"
"Sh"ttin' On The World"
"Fuc* You"
"Murder Ink"
and many others.
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/drdre/****witdreday.html
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/drdre/bitchesaintshit.html
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/drdre/shittinontheworld.html
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/drdre/****you.html
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/drdre/murderink.html
I think it's safe to conclude that his lawyers wrote the apology.
Oh yes, here we go again... Apple/Cook the exploiter. Yea, your right. Apple is Foxconn's only customer etc etc etc etc etc.
Dude, or dudette -- this argument is SOOOO 4 YEARS AGO.
Go post your comments on a FOX NEWS site somewhere can you? It fits right in.
People not taking responsibility for things is endemic of everything that's wrong with the world.
So you're an ubermensch is what you're saying, right? So, because what he's done wrong is worse than what you've done wrong, he's a bastard. Is that it? If anyone has gone down a road as dark as this guy has, I think it's admirable that he's managed to come out of it and become the man he is today. I don't get the hostility.
The kind of "man he is today" is the result of making a lot of money by taking advantage and promoting, encouraging, and glorifying violence, misogyny, thuggery, illegal drug use and infecting his fellow "brothers" with this damaging message. Then, he made more money by taking advantage of those same "brothers" by selling them cheap, overpriced, lousy headphones.
I think it's safe to conclude you don't know much about the music industry. There's no guarantee he wrote the lyrics to any of those songs. He certainly didn't write for NWA; Cube did. The music industry has people who do nothing but write lyrics for other artists. For the sake of argument, let's say he did write those lyrics. How could you say, because he wrote the lyrics, he couldn't write the apology?Is the assumption that he would write the apology in the same style as gangsta rap lyrics? If it is, that's a pretty poor assumption. That leap in logic would have to cross a chasm to land on firm ground.
Him saying he was sorry 25 years later would not be an issue, would not have made it past year 1 and i would most likely be in jailPersonally, I would never forgive him, as nobody should, but if after 25 years he can convince me he's truly sorry, and has been working to improve himself for the majority of that time, I'd understand. I still wouldn't forgive him, wouldn't want him near my daughter or even in my own community, naturally, but I'd at least understand, and I wouldn't consider him a threat so long as he sticks to his new sense of self.
And you're missing the point. This isn't about people not taking responsibility for one's own actions. It's about mob rule disguised as justice, and extreme retribution doled out for minor infractions.
And I promise you if attention was brought to the past misdeeds of an anonymous rank and file Apple engineer, that person would be quickly shown the door.
I got your point the first time. I merely point out, once again, that a deliberate choice that goes astray is still a deliberate choice. The irrefutable fact is that the woman's actions started something and idiots escalated it way beyond reason. But she still started it.
This has nothing to do with forgiveness. Simply put, when you become involved with individuals that have a questionable past, then you also inherit that past. In this case, Apple has to accept that one of the faces of their company, a billion dollar face to be sure, is not the most savoury of characters.
To add, the fact alone that he has adopted the Dr. prefix, without having actually achieved the degree, is an indication of this man's character.
This isn't an apology. This is nothing more than a damage control, corporate attorney concocted, protect interests, phony apology. It was done to protect income and earnings of Dre and all those affiliated. He's had 25 years to apologize, and only now, with big corporate connections and interests, does this bogus apology come. What a joke.
No I didn't miss your point. I guess maybe I'm just not as cynical as everyone else here. And I do think people can grow up and change as I've witnessed it in my own family. I have no evidence that would suggest Dre's apology is not sincere. If someone else does let's see it.