No, I read about it and hear about it. You must be bullied a lot as a kid since you seem very uptight.
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Dr. Dre Addresses Abuse Accusations With Apology, Apple Releases Supporting Statement
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
No, I read about it and hear about it. You must be bullied a lot as a kid since you seem very uptight.
Don't let actual facts get in the way of a good story amirite?
Movie was about NWA, not Dre. He was one of 13 people with "producer" credit so he didn't produce it. So HE couldn't dictate what was in the movie. Joke about it? You mean 16 years ago when Eminem said on Guilty Conscience, "are you gonna take advice from somebody who slapped Dee Barnes?" I'll even give you that since it was a duet with Em.Narratives bolstered by revisionist history usually can't stand scrutiny. You can not like the guy for his past. That's your prerogative. At least base your explanation for your dislike on facts. Or not. Your choice.
Last edited:
Dr Dre's N***a with a gun said:
He used to make his money, and still does, by rapping, degradedly, of women, minorities, white people, anyone and anything. No amount of supporting statements can mask that. It's tasteless, imo.
Honestly, I still can't believe Apple went to bed with the so-called Dr, all for second-rate headphones. It ain't what it used to be 5 years ago.
Lol so true. Apple will hop right back on the moral patrol, without missing a beat too. (Sorry, couldn't resist)
Do you buy Apple products? Or Dell? Or any other brand of computers? Then you're contributing to the "abuse".
I'm sorry. When you hire a thug you get a thug. I get and even accept he has changed. History has not. There is no legal recourse just like Cosby. Let it go.
Now, Hillary . . . . . .
"Snoop" went to my HS. He tried to live in my town and our puritan police and neighbors could not stand it. He moved to Diamond Bar where they like monied residents and can stand a bit of smoke. Hi "name redacted".
Now, Hillary . . . . . .
"Snoop" went to my HS. He tried to live in my town and our puritan police and neighbors could not stand it. He moved to Diamond Bar where they like monied residents and can stand a bit of smoke. Hi "name redacted".
Glad Apple needs to throw 2 cents in on an issue like this as a result of trying to be cool and putting this degenerate on the payroll. Wonder if their stance on abuse will come up on the next conference call... Play with fire and your gonna get burned.
Well, what's brought all this back up is the film about his life/those years that conveniently glosses over the violence he committed against women. His history hasn't been stirred back up when he did other things like Beats or join Apple.
I just want to make sure you're aware of that point because it's quite a huge one that you didn't even consider.
And yeah we all did silly things. I've never attempted to murder people just for the sake of it, have you?
It is a sad world that we live in when people like you not just forgive horrible people, but expect everyone to not care about domestic violence.
So basically what you're saying is that some actions are unforgivable and people who commit them may never redeem themselves or be seen as redeemed by society? Once such an action, in this case domestic violence, is committed, no matter how one leads one's life after, the perpetrator may never enjoy forgiveness? Does that cover it?
Im in the camp that people should not be penalized for what they did 10+ years ago. I actually worry about those people who didn't do something they aren't proud of. We can all argue the gravity of the situation all we want but we weren't in the situation on either side of the situation so we should just stay out of it TBQH. Dr. Dre didn't lie about it to the media like Bill Cosby did. I'm sure if we heard what some of you people have done in your past (many of you in the present) we could sit around and judge and justify why you shouldn't be allowed to work at Apple or make a living anywhere else.
No it isn't. Tupac was only in the movie for 1 minute. Dee Barnes is a nobody and it wasn't relevant to anything in the film. Also it's a Hollywood film I'd hardly call that biographical. In a documentary it would be in there. It will be in the book. In a movie focusing on 10 characters there is not time for 1 insignificant event. The director obviously agrees with me.
Are you proud that your town was very unwelcoming and essentially ousted a successful black man partially based on the choice of herbs he chooses to inhale, among other factors?
Everybody makes mistakes. But beating up women is not simply "foolish and dumb", that is just messed up and I dont want to know what kind of person you need to be to do such thing.
Beat/rape/try to kill someone, then apologize, become "a better man" and suddenly you get a lot of supporters.
Do nothing of the above, be a good guy from start to finish and no one cares.
Do nothing of the above, be a good guy from start to finish and no one cares.
Repenting counts for everything. This very vocal apology this far along - dragged out only because it's in the news and not initiated by himself, that speaks volumes to me.
By all means though please misinterpret to sell a point.
I do wonder about those who support domestic abusers though, in some way they're normalising that crime.
Why does he need to issue a public apology for a private matter? Do you know him personally? I'm just wondering how you're so well equipped to judge his level of repentance. Could you please elaborate.
Yes he was. Zach Braff beat the crap out of some 12 year old kid on Punk'd because they faked damaging his Porsche. They edited the show around it, and still aired it. Where's the backlash on all of that? Dre did a lot of dumb stuff when he was younger, I did a lot of dumb stuff when I was younger. No one here is capable of judging the sincerity unless you know him personally. For a long time, I'm sure the plan that his publicists want to go with was to just not respond at all. This is sort of forced by the movie bringing the incident back to light for everyone involved.
I have already heard countless people state that the movie was too long. I felt that "Straight Outta Compton" was just fine in length, the pacing kept it alive so it felt shorter to me than it was. If each of these incidents were allotted time based on their significance to the N.W.A. story, the Dee Barnes bit would be only given a second or two anyway.
Yup can't understand why Apple a company who was headed by a guy that went out of his way to deny his own daughter. And pay the least amount of child support as possible, would do business with a guy like Dr. Dre.
Yup, can't understand why.....
Yes but 90% of us didn't get billions of dollars for our junk ghetto headphone company from what seemed like one of the biggest and purest companies on the planet.
Abused women matter.
Good thing he didn't beat up any gays.
His sorry *ss would have been fired.
Good thing he didn't beat up any gays.
His sorry *ss would have been fired.
People sure are looking for reasons to rationalize a defense for this guy. We have heard about the 3 women he beat up, including shooting at one of them, battery on a police officer, two counts of battery from a brawl in a hotel, was accused of racketeering two times, high speed chases with the police, parole violations - and that is just what we know about. God knows what wasn't reported. Add in that his entire career being built on the thug lifestyle and we have a real role model here. He may or may not be sorry and may or may not have changed, but in his own words:
“People talk all this ****, but you know, somebody ****s with me, I’m gonna **** with them. I just did it, you know. Ain’t nothing you can do now by talking about it. Besides, it ain’t no big thing – I just threw her through a door.”
“People talk all this ****, but you know, somebody ****s with me, I’m gonna **** with them. I just did it, you know. Ain’t nothing you can do now by talking about it. Besides, it ain’t no big thing – I just threw her through a door.”