Seriously? 25 years later? My god, whats wrong with you people? How can any human beign judge someone for what they did 25 years ago? I'm pretty sure this is just because he's famous. There's no way you would judge a family member or a friend for what they did TWENTY FIVE YEARS AGO!
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Dr. Dre Addresses Abuse Accusations With Apology, Apple Releases Supporting Statement
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Everybody can and does change. The apology actually seemed sincere, which is what surprises me. So often people in his position release an "apology" that sounds more like "really guys, it wasn't a big deal". This one came across differently.
Obviously no apology can change what he did, but the fact that he actually acknowledged that in his apology is refreshing.
Obviously no apology can change what he did, but the fact that he actually acknowledged that in his apology is refreshing.
Seems silly to resent him his jokey Dr. title. It's not that hard to get a doctorate after all. His music, even though I am not a huge fan, seems like a bigger accomplishment than lazing around in your pajamas for 3 years writing a thesis on French poetry. Or whatever.
People can change but this apology reeks of being carefully crafted by a high price PR firm.
Not sure what anyone else wants from the guy. He apologized in the past, too.
Betting a big piece of the company's future on Apple Music, which seems to highlight rappers and a genre which specializes in violent, misogynistic, racist lyrics, is sort of an oxymoron for a company that jams its SJW policies in your face. Apple's acting in a hypocritical fashion. Because I deplore the hateful aspects of rap, I will never, ever use Apple Music on any of my devices. I have also stopped purchasing music and videos through iTunes. My opinion and few dollars don't matter to Apple, but they matter to me.
They do push hip-hop a bit on Beats 1, but if you build a library without hip-hop, it won't be in your face.
I am more worried about the victims that wait till all recourse is exhausted and resort to ridicule and shame to get justice. That is bullying and extortion.
cite:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberbullying
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extortion
See? I didn't deny they were victims. Do you believe in rule of law or not?
cite:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberbullying
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extortion
See? I didn't deny they were victims. Do you believe in rule of law or not?
Because it was known, because the victims spoke out and he said nothing.
I'm surprised you're not aware of public acceptance with repenting ones crimes. You should certainly look up on it and fill that gap in.
I didn't feel it was too long. Apparently it did make one of the longer cuts. Honestly, there probably is SOME WAY they could have fit it into the movie. I wouldn't have objected if they did, I'm not a Dr Dre apologist or anything. I'm just not sure what significance it really has for the overall story of NWA.
I'm more worried about the victims period. If they need to resort to ridicule and shame to get justice, at least they got justice.
If he had paid his price to society and these victims and done whatever he can to make it up to them, then yes, I agree that we should accept his apology, but by all accounts it doesn't look like he has done so.
In this case, doing so would involve some serious jail time and I seriously doubt the statute of limitations is up on all cases and since he admits fault in writing, it wouldn't be hard for him to be prosecuted. It would also involve paying back medical costs with interest, paying for the therapy sessions that they need, etc.
In this case, doing so would involve some serious jail time and I seriously doubt the statute of limitations is up on all cases and since he admits fault in writing, it wouldn't be hard for him to be prosecuted. It would also involve paying back medical costs with interest, paying for the therapy sessions that they need, etc.
No, I agree what he is doing is fine, and I agree with most of what you are trying to say. My problem is Apple did not need to issue a press release about it. It brings them down to help cover his old "mistakes".
Depends on who's doing it to who, and for what reason. 99 times out of 100 though, I'm going to say the ends don't justify the means concerning it.
When people bring up internet shaming, I always think of that one woman who made a tasteless joke on Twitter that ended up getting the Tumblr crowd riled up. Long story short, it practically ruined her life. All because of one stupid tweet.
Seriously, people are going on about him using "Dr" in his stage name? His name is Andre, and Andre the Giant was already taken. Obviously there's no misrepresentation, since no one actually thinks he's a doctor of anything. Elvis wasn't really a King, Michael Jackson wasn't really a Prince, etc. Somehow all the real royal families contained their rage.
I hope no one here ever comes across my Halloween pictures from many years ago in a lab coat with a "Doctor Love" name tag on!
You know, I agree, with the part I quoted, but looking at it now, there was a necessity to communicate the poverty and violence divide that existed in what otherwise was a modern western democracy, where one could easily live in another part and have no idea that everyone wasn't also living a blessed life.
But it's become apparent, that the more we bring necessary awareness to dysfunction, the more the concept is normalised, and affects people's moral compass of acceptability. There's something in our culture with the male psyche, where if we're shown some tough characters, we don't wish to feel ourselves as lesser, weaker, or vulnerable to them. We wish to be as powerful as is necessary to continue to belong in good status in the pack. Rich enough to avoid the setting or hard enough to endure it.
The more pervasive the communication of the violence is, the more inescapable the psychological weight of it is, the more our measure of masculinity is framed in reference to it.
I hope no one here ever comes across my Halloween pictures from many years ago in a lab coat with a "Doctor Love" name tag on!
You know, I agree, with the part I quoted, but looking at it now, there was a necessity to communicate the poverty and violence divide that existed in what otherwise was a modern western democracy, where one could easily live in another part and have no idea that everyone wasn't also living a blessed life.
But it's become apparent, that the more we bring necessary awareness to dysfunction, the more the concept is normalised, and affects people's moral compass of acceptability. There's something in our culture with the male psyche, where if we're shown some tough characters, we don't wish to feel ourselves as lesser, weaker, or vulnerable to them. We wish to be as powerful as is necessary to continue to belong in good status in the pack. Rich enough to avoid the setting or hard enough to endure it.
The more pervasive the communication of the violence is, the more inescapable the psychological weight of it is, the more our measure of masculinity is framed in reference to it.
That's it, folks! Thread's been Godwin'd. You don't have to go home, but you can't stay here!
I wouldn't say that at all - I'd say each situation is different. If someone beat the hell out of a woman and nothing was done about it for whatever reason, I'd have no issues with them taking to the internet and ridiculing and shaming the one doing the beating.
The harsh reality is that there are consequences for your words and actions, whether one intends ill will or not. People can be idiots and overreact but the irrefutable fact is if that woman hand't posted a tasteless joke her like would not have been practically ruined.
That might be one of those 1 out of 100 situations. But when it comes to things like...
...this? No. Consequences do have actions, sure. But the joke, while tasteless, was entirely misinterpreted, and the resulting punishment far exceeded the crime.
I'm of the opinion that you can call people stupid on the internet, and disagree with them until the cows come home. But when you start messing with someone's livelihood just because they said something you didn't like? There's no excuse for that.