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I agree with what you say. The game throws you into things with little to no help. I really didn't have a grasp on things until much later in the game. Now when I read the descriptions on skills and so on, it makes sense, but that's because I spent so much time learning. :eek:

Bioware does include a tutorial under other campaigns that might be helpful? I have yet to try it. Anyways, after so many games holding my hand unnecessarily, I like how this one just said f-it and kicked me arse from the get go with only a bit of minor help.

Throwing you into a game without any class knowledge takes away from immersion imo. There is a tutorial?

Anyways, this book I bought from Primas is overall helpful, maybe something worth considering. There's lots of info and descriptions to look through, but on the down side, it's kind of a poorly structured book. It doesn't even have an index and it really does need one.

Yes I have purchased strategy guides before (Oblivion, WoW) but hate shelling out $20. Maybe I should buy a used version. Next time I'm at a store, if I can find one, I'll thumb through one and see how good the info is.:)
 
I agree with that about immersion, but if anything it's another reason to play through more than once. :) It also kind of works with the game, where as you're a new Gray Warden, so inexperienced... I guess. :eek:

Yep, under Other Campaigns there's a Demo Tutorial, at least on me game.

For about $24 it's hard cover. :)

I like books, but if it's not a book on programing, art, or some kind of reference, I'm usually weary about its price. But for this game I was happy to fork out the doe. Speaking of books, I just ordered the Mass Effect Art book on Amazon as I've been wanting it for some time.
 
HELP!!! :)


First thing. God I hate the PS3 save system. Forgot to save. Played for 2 hours last night. Got killed. AutoSave was about 1.5 hours behind where I was :rolleyes: Totally killed my momentum in the game. Now I have to re-tread and have same conversations in order to gain the same skills as I had just earnt. Real bloody pain, but my own fault for not saving I guess.

Secondly. So have you killed Flemeth, or did you opt to just keep her alive and take the grimore ? I opted to kill, but she turns into a mammoth dragon and fried our asses including poor old shale... What did you do and whats the best way - any repercussions in keeping her alive to the overall story ?

Thirdly. PC wise have you installed any of the texture packs ? I tried installing the JB texture pack and put the override folder into my Core folder, but I'm not sure i'm seeing any difference in game ?
 
That bites! I lost an entire day with Zelda NES, because when I got up to get a drink, I bumped the NES and the cartridge flew out -- the lid was broken off -- and I hadn't saved the game. :)

For your second question:
**I killed Flemeth, but much later in the game and after I had killed the high-dragon, so I figured I had a chance. My characters were about about lvl 18-ish. She massacred me the first time also. I figured since she admits to Morrigan's accusations, she needed to die.

At first I thought if I talked to Morrigan again, she would bring it up, but she doesn't that I encountered.
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Nope on the texture packs, but I'm going to look for them now. Hopefully if it does work, it replaces the crappy-looking Dragon Armor.
 
I agree with that about immersion, but if anything it's another reason to play through more than once. :) It also kind of works with the game, where as you're a new Gray Warden, so inexperienced... I guess. :eek:

Ah, but you were a mage with presumable some experience and maybe went to mage school? ;) I just finished the Earl quest, fought and puzzled my way to the sacred urn on the mountain top shrine over by Haven. Another good quest under my belt. I really enjoyed puzzling and not having to fight my behind off for a change.

Regarding the comment about losing progress on PS3. I've always wondered if there was a way to backup my 360 game saves... I've got auto save turned on for my PC version, but at times the auto saves don't happen nearly enough especially in successive fights where you are just hanging on between each encounter.
 
Secondly. So have you killed Flemeth, or did you opt to just keep her alive and take the grimore ? I opted to kill, but she turns into a mammoth dragon and fried our asses including poor old shale... What did you do and whats the best way - any repercussions in keeping her alive to the overall story ?

Thirdly. PC wise have you installed any of the texture packs ? I tried installing the JB texture pack and put the override folder into my Core folder, but I'm not sure i'm seeing any difference in game ?

Your Flemeth spoiler, is this later in the game? spoiler>What do you do with her daughter if she is in your party, dump her?
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Regarding textures, I'm happy with the appearance of my game. Maybe I'll snoop around for some comparison shots between stock and the upgrade.
 
So just like real schooling, where as it never really prepares you for the real world -- well the game world. :) Maybe they needed more detailed descriptions of each skill/spell? The descriptions really didn't click with me until after I had played for some time and had reference to what they were describing.

I like puzzles quite a bit, but also battles that really keep me on me toes. Speaking of puzzles, I need to start on the new Zelda DS game.

On the Flemeth spoiler:
**Morrigan is the one that asks you to kill Felmeth. I won't say why, unless you want to know?**

Speaking of her daughter, I know you're a mage, but she's quite useful in the game and at the end... Well... I can't say, as it's a HUGE spoiler. :eek:
 
Flemmeth..

Yep the flemmeth quest relies on you doing something and giving something to someone, and then going somewhere in order for the conversation to come around when your someone happens to be somewhere talking to someone in regards to the something you found somewhere earlier.....

I imagine many of the side quests and party quests are missed simply because you never achieve the full 'somethings' in order to initiate them. :D

The sad part about this post is when you've actually done it. That first paragraph makes perfect sense....... LOL
 
Finally got it and enjoying it. I think I'm about halfway in on 360 version. I have had some save problems as well... at least it trying to go to weird save point after death and my having to manually reload auto saves or whatever. Also reordering the save game file numbers. Still that rarely happens. Playing an Elf Rogue and it's fun... now wishing I'd done Shape Shifting Mage or something though for a bit more fun... seems higher you go can't really sneak up on people for attack anymore :(
 
So just like real schooling, where as it never really prepares you for the real world -- well the game world. :) Maybe they needed more detailed descriptions of each skill/spell? The descriptions really didn't click with me until after I had played for some time and had reference to what they were describing.

I like puzzles quite a bit, but also battles that really keep me on me toes. Speaking of puzzles, I need to start on the new Zelda DS game.

On the Flemeth spoiler:
**Morrigan is the one that asks you to kill Felmeth. I won't say why, unless you want to know?**

Speaking of her daughter, I know you're a mage, but she's quite useful in the game and at the end... Well... I can't say, as it's a HUGE spoiler. :eek:

Reagardin the Spoiler, I don't want to know. Hmm, now I'm wondering what is the best party makeup? Currently running with Alistar, Wynne, Lielana (sp?- the rogue), and my mage. I thought a rogue in the party would be better than three mages and a tank, but I remember someone mentioning they were using 3 mages. We may have talked about this before, I see Wynne as a must healer. I'm trying to turn my mage into dps mage, but Morrigan did a good job as an attack-mage. The choices continue! What do you think?
 
Since you're interested in DPS, make sure you bump up Leliana for close battles and definitely focus on her rogue skills. Then your character and Wynne can sit in the back for support, which should balance things out.

I stayed with Morrigan, Leliana, and Alistaire in my first game when my character was a Warrior(Archery maxed). This time around I'm choosing them again, but I'm focusing on dual weapons with my rogue, since Leliana has decent archery from the start, so I'm going to bump her to max on that skill this time around and leave mine secondary for support.

Morrigan with Spirit Healing can take the job of Wynne later on, which is what I did.

OK, this isn't really a spoiler, but just a heads up as it relates to the question about party member. Don't neglect your other party members when it comes to armor and so on, because there's a point you'll have to rely on only them.

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OK, MRU, your posts sometimes magically appear. The one right of pcypert wasn't there earlier today. :eek:
 
I haven't read the whole thread so maybe this has been said, but who got the greenlight to basically mash up LOTR and WOW? I'm loving the game but can't we get a touch more original???

I'm wanting to replay, but not really looking forward to going through all the dialogue again. Wish there was a bit more free fighting and freedom to move about, but otherwise a really, really solid game (even considering all the glitches - this on 360 version... odd save problems and about 10 times now I've had to completely retread a conversation, sometimes three times in order for the game to advance)
 
You didn't read any reviews before buying? :p *I kid* I didn't, but I did watch the promos and it was pretty clear this was a LOTR rip before buying it, especially with the Darkspawn and unite the kingdom fluff.

I don't mind that this game is so similar to LOTR, nor do I mind the Warcraft 3 type controls -- I don't play wow :eek: -- and Bioware in their interviews mentioned they intentionally made the game more familiar to MMO players. It works! :) I think if it were a game made by a smaller company, it would be a bit more original. Speaking of which, give The Witcher Enhanced a try -- it's pretty original for being so familiar, if that makes sense?

What really stands out for me with this game are the characters and their interaction. It also has few somewhat gray areas that helped make the game for me -- not as much so as The Witcher, but at least it's not all B&W.

On the PC, the battles are more like a traditional RPG, which I really like. So generally I'm panned out all the way so that I can see the bigger picture and carefully plan where my characters are, who they're attacking, and so on.


That sucks about the save and dialogue. I like the dialogue, but I haven't had to repeat much of it, so I can see how it would wear thin. The game is HUGE, so I spent more time exploring than talking.

Anyways, I'm on my second play through and I like it just as much as the first time. This time around though, I'm noticing more things since I already know how to play and not everyone is a stranger.
 
Yeah, just had another glitch in the abondoned orphanage. This one was massive and I had to go way back to find a save before I entered the alienage even. Sucked.

BUT even with that I'm still enjoying myself. About to wrap up the first play through as a saintly doo-gooder (who still manages not to do all right I'm noticing). Going to do the next play through as incredibly selfish guy... just to add Fable clone to the mix :p

I hope Bioware stays with this. I love their games and the direction this one is heading. Hope to see something else soon... and hopefully with a fresh story.
 
Since you're interested in DPS, make sure you bump up Leliana for close battles and definitely focus on her rogue skills. Then your character and Wynne can sit in the back for support, which should balance things out.

As I've spent enough time considering the leveling path of my primary character, mostly I've been letting party members auto level unless I'm looking for a specific skill like uping their poison skill. I have no idea what bias the game has in auto mode. I'd hope but would not presume that auto leveling is the best way.
 
I haven't read the whole thread so maybe this has been said, but who got the greenlight to basically mash up LOTR and WOW? I'm loving the game but can't we get a touch more original???

I'm wanting to replay, but not really looking forward to going through all the dialogue again. Wish there was a bit more free fighting and freedom to move about, but otherwise a really, really solid game (even considering all the glitches - this on 360 version... odd save problems and about 10 times now I've had to completely retread a conversation, sometimes three times in order for the game to advance)

I played years of WoW and hardly cared about the background story really. At times I did. For DAO, I'd say this is one of the game's strongest features. I find character's situations in many cases to be compelling. A better game if you don't like "story" would be Dungeon Siege, more fighting than talking. ;)
 
Man the 2nd play through is buggier than the 1st (360 version). Now playing through as Arcane Mage and some serious lock ups/won't let me move forwards. Stuck in infinite dialogue loop in the fade on Wynne's character. System seems to have lots of trouble registering kills... maybe I'm too good and they happen too fast :) But when I kill things sometimes it takes as long as two minutes to register things as killed and let me loot their corpses. Worse is when I need or want to save, but it still has me registered as in a battle in the system even though there's no one about and I just have to run around till the system refreshes or whatever it's doing....

Paul
 
Well that really sucks, but glad you're making it through. Some games are worth a bit of hassle.

As for your comment; "System seems to have lots of trouble registering kills... maybe I'm too good and they happen too fast...," I have a solution that's probably not practical, but will keep up with anything this game throws at it. :)
 
Well I'm on 360 version, but as soon as the new Imacs are sorted I'll have that processor in a shiny new (hopefully not too yellow) screen :)

Played through this time as an a$$... not as rewarding as in Fable series. Just better for a chuckle for me, but nothing of benefit to me. Also didn't realize how easy it'd be to lose some of my party. Not going to spoil anything, but some that have played through might realize some of the choices you have to make. I went for a joke answer and next thing you know I'm in a fight with someone to the death. If I'm not a bit more careful through the final campaign I may be doing it with my dog and Morrigan (I have a crazy, crazy high approval ranking from her).

Maybe just one more playthrough as an archer maybe.... or maybe back to Borderlands....
 
LOL. That would suck! Just the 3 of you. :D

I had a really high approval rating with Morrigan. It was 95 towards the end, because I gave her gifts. :) Leilana was 100. Alistair was 49. :eek:

it's a good proc. A bit faster than my previous Core 2 Quad 9450 for games, but in Maxwell Renderer it's nearly double the performance. The extra threads rock. Anyways, if I could only have one comp, it would be a Mac. But the tinkererrrr in me always has me going back to PC, so I will always own both...
 
LOL. That would suck! Just the 3 of you. :D

I had a really high approval rating with Morrigan. It was 95 towards the end, because I gave her gifts. :) Leilana was 100. Alistair was 49. :eek:

it's a good proc. A bit faster than my previous Core 2 Quad 9450 for games, but in Maxwell Renderer it's nearly double the performance. The extra threads rock. Anyways, if I could only have one comp, it would be a Mac. But the tinkererrrr in me always has me going back to PC, so I will always own both...

I've looked around but yet to see where to find party member approval ratings... I've tried to make Morrigan like me, but dialog choices with her are minimal and mostly negative.
 
Gifs! Give here GIFTS!! :) Of course the right ones, which I can help out with if you want? This is one part I used my book for help.

You already know about the Grimoir. If you can get the real one from Flemeth, she'll really like your character.
 
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