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I had to get Morrigan's spirit-healing up before I could kill him, just so she could revive my ranged warrior and Alistair when they were killed -- which was often. I also had her on the other side of the wall out of the range of his freeze and other EVIL. :)

I think that with my rogue specializing in dual weapons this time around and just the experience of already completing the game, I'll be able to kill him earlier.

I did the "tank with potion" method: set your tank (Alistair in my case) with tactics "if health drops below 75% use a potion." With lots of potions, the survivability of the tank goes up a LOT. Once you burn through all the level 1 and 2 potions, change the tactic slightly to less than 50% otherwise you're just wasting potions.

and freeze locking has been somewhat nerfed since 1.02, but having Morrigan spam CoC is still a very useful way of dealing with Gaxkang.

There are a lot of other methods, of course, and it all depends upon build, but I had a strength/dex Dual Wield Rogue (which was far from optimum) but it's doable. I can't wait till try my current Cunning/Lethality Rogue...
 
I turned off all the tactics, because my party members were doing things prematurely, or on the wrong enemies. So I just did the pause thing and micro managed my characters when the battles were really tough like Gaxkang. :)

On nightmare he deals a ton of damage(Even with my characters all wearing the best armor available.) and prior to having Morrigan's spirit-healing -- since I didn't use Wynne -- I had no way of healing my characters when they were put into a state they could not respond. It also let me keep my characters attacking, so that only in some cases did they need to stop attacking to use a potion.

Anyways, I'll see how this time goes. My new character is way better for close combat. My other character was great for range, but wasn't the best for up close, like the EVIL that is Gaxkang.
 
ahh, if it's on nightmare, it might not work as well...

well the Spirit Healer Spec is altogether very very powerful. Though I think Wynne is slightly better because of her powers. If you don't know what I'm referring to, try to finish her personal quest...
 
I've been running aroud Deep Roads (the large Dwarf underworld region accessed through Orzammar, the Dwarf Capitol) and have explored all that I can. I found the head of one of the Dwarf houses to let him know some fradulent stuff is going on in the competition to take over the Dwarf leadership position. However I have two other quests down there, one was "Places of Power" (a Mage Quest), the other was to find this missing person. While I see several tunnels that lead off into other directions, I can't access them.

Is there an event that unlocks the other parts of Deep Roads or is there a secret way to access? Spoilers welcome, but please use a spoiler warning or white text. Thanks!
 
I've been running aroud Deep Roads (the large Dwarf underworld region accessed through Orzammar, the Dwarf Capitol) and have explored all that I can. I found the head of one of the Dwarf houses to let him know some fradulent stuff is going on in the competition to take over the Dwarf leadership position. However I have two other quests down there, one was "Places of Power" (a Mage Quest), the other was to find this missing person. While I see several tunnels that lead off into other directions, I can't access them.

Is there an event that unlocks the other parts of Deep Roads or is there a secret way to access? Spoilers welcome, but please use a spoiler warning or white text. Thanks!

the places of power site and the missing person is in the same area, i think it's called the ortan thaig.

This missing person is in a tunnel which branches off from the main area and the place of power is at the altar where you summon the pride demon at the end of the "asunder" side quest.
 
the places of power site and the missing person is in the same area, i think it's called the ortan thaig.

This missing person is in a tunnel which branches off from the main area and the place of power is at the altar where you summon the pride demon at the end of the "asunder" side quest.

Thanks, is this accessed from the Deep Roads area? If so, how? Something I'm missing.
 
cna anyone give me some tips for beating loghain after the landsmeet? i can only ever beat him once ever few times during the big battle. by the time i'm on to the duel i have no chance because i've usually used all my potions keeping me alive through the first battle. it's really annoying me know because i can't even go back to stock up on more potions.
 
cna anyone give me some tips for beating loghain after the landsmeet? i can only ever beat him once ever few times during the big battle. by the time i'm on to the duel i have no chance because i've usually used all my potions keeping me alive through the first battle. it's really annoying me know because i can't even go back to stock up on more potions.

mage with the spell cone of cold. If you have any other disables, it'll be even easir.

rogue with riposte, and lethality = backstab to hell.

warrior with any disable, the 2 handed has that pummel thing, and S+S has the shield stuff.

You'll also need decent stats, but the Loghain fight is really not that difficult compared to some of the other fights.
 
Yeah,
That wasn't one that gave me issues. I think he had some archers or something doing more damage than him. If you have a mage or something use them to keep him stuck in place and then take out all those little guys that will be eating away at your health.

To the guy asking about the dwarf thing... you need to cash in your missions and then will be given a quest that allows you to go deeper in. Don't think you can explore it on your own as it's tied to a big mission. I dont' really consider that a spoiler so didn't white it out. It's the "big" quest you do to get the dwarven alliance... (no spoiler there right, I mean there's a bit mission for every alliance you want).

Paul
 
It is, though I think you need to beat a certain boss before it lets you progress.

I'm not sure which boss it is off the top of my head...I think it's Caradin's Cross...

Thanks for the info! Least I know it's not that I'm missing a secret door or something.

Yeah,
That wasn't one that gave me issues. I think he had some archers or something doing more damage than him. If you have a mage or something use them to keep him stuck in place and then take out all those little guys that will be eating away at your health.

To the guy asking about the dwarf thing... you need to cash in your missions and then will be given a quest that allows you to go deeper in. Don't think you can explore it on your own as it's tied to a big mission. I dont' really consider that a spoiler so didn't white it out. It's the "big" quest you do to get the dwarven alliance... (no spoiler there right, I mean there's a bit mission for every alliance you want).

Paul

That was me. I found the head of the Dwarf House and gave him the message. Now I'm back in Orzammar looking over my quests trying to figure out what I need to do next to proceed. So far I've been playing both sides of the fence, helping both Dwarf Houses, maybe that's my problem. I'll just do whatever quests I have and see what develops. :)
 
Spoiler?

Yeah you'll need to pick a side because the one you go more with will finally ask you to venture in to get this chick to come give her Paragon approval to their bid. That opens up the deep roads and gives you a party character. You can still backtrack on your choice of king, but need to seem more loyal to one over another. I think they give you the slums first, then after that they'll say still not quite enough can you get so and so Paragon... then you're in.

Paul
 
I turned off all the tactics, because my party members were doing things prematurely, or on the wrong enemies. So I just did the pause thing and micro managed my characters

* cough * control freak * cough * :D


I wouldn't have the patience for that tbh.
 
THat's ME! :p

I actually did it out of FRUSTRATION. :D I'd go to Morrigan to have her cast a cone of cold, or the blizzard storm and right before I got there, she'd be casting chain lightning. Or Alistaire would fire up SMITE on a foe that didn't need to be smited. Anyways, it made the game easier for me in the long run and yes, it did require more control. :eek:
 
I haven't even bought the Gray Wardens DLC yet. If you buy this, let us know how it is. I'd buy it though, if it's a couple of hours worth of play. :)

it's disappointingly easy, though there are some good crowd bashing scenes which I enjoyed and I'm not sure how i feel about the story of the DLC...

the Grey Warden's DLC is good though.

but I like all the items, so I would've bought it anyways.

i'd give a tentative recomendation...
 
Maybe if I wait long enough, there will be a DLC sale. :eek:

I recall reading that the Gray Warden's quest offered things relevant to the game, so I'm wondering if I should buy that now, since I'm not that far in on my second play through?

I'm wondering the same thing about this new DLC, or does it take place after the game's timeline?
 
Wondering about buying Return to Ostagar myself. Just ran into the camp where the game tells you to go buy the DLC. If you get to wear the king's armor, well, I guess it was pretty cool looking.

I actually did it out of FRUSTRATION. :D I'd go to Morrigan to have her cast a cone of cold, or the blizzard storm and right before I got there, she'd be casting chain lightning. Or Alistaire would fire up SMITE on a foe that didn't need to be smited. Anyways, it made the game easier for me in the long run and yes, it did require more control. :eek:
I have tactics on but could stand to tweak them a bit. My biggest frustration is characters running off across the room to chase an enemy I do NOT want them going after, often getting caught in some AoE or something. Usually they stick to the targets I tell them to but often as not I'm hitting = (select all) and clicking on the target I want. Either way I'm finding the game challenging enough I have to mico-manage most battles. A few too many un-CCed mages tossing fireballs at you can mean quick death.
 
Another reason to turn it all off! :)

I mapped the select all button to a button my pinky could reach on my speedpad

I got into the habit of having Morrigan casting blizzard on an adjacent room, then lightning storm, then waiting. This usually cleared out all but the toughest foes. :)
 
Maybe if I wait long enough, there will be a DLC sale. :eek:

I recall reading that the Gray Warden's quest offered things relevant to the game, so I'm wondering if I should buy that now, since I'm not that far in on my second play through?

I'm wondering the same thing about this new DLC, or does it take place after the game's timeline?

well the later you wait till finishing the quests the DLC offers, the better the rewards since the materials will scale.

that said, if you finish the DLC quests...
you can use the merchant at the Grey Warden's Keep to upgrade your gear for something like 20g, where you sell and buy back

though that doesn't relaly answer your question: i have to say, I really enjoyed wardens keep, i liked the story, and it's only tangentially related to the main story, but still it's interesting and the items are fun.

The RTO DLC is meant to provide closure to events in the main storyline (the name of the DLC kinda gives it away as to what it gives closure to)...whether you reckon that's $5 is another question. The DLC itself would take about an hour or two to finish and as I remarked before, there are definitely some good fights, but the challenge level is not high.
 
Spoiler?
Paul

Thanks for the info! (see original post for spoiler).

Wondering about buying Return to Ostagar myself. Just ran into the camp where the game tells you to go buy the DLC. If you get to wear the king's armor, well, I guess it was pretty cool looking.


I have tactics on but could stand to tweak them a bit. My biggest frustration is characters running off across the room to chase an enemy I do NOT want them going after, often getting caught in some AoE or something. Usually they stick to the targets I tell them to but often as not I'm hitting = (select all) and clicking on the target I want. Either way I'm finding the game challenging enough I have to mico-manage most battles. A few too many un-CCed mages tossing fireballs at you can mean quick death.

That is why when I know there is a group of mobs waiting for me, I try to draw them to me versus running into the fight. One technique is to put the group on "hold" and then aggro some mobs and pull them to the group. Then take them off "hold" or they won't move at all.

Another reason to turn it all off! :)

I mapped the select all button to a button my pinky could reach on my speedpad

I got into the habit of having Morrigan casting blizzard on an adjacent room, then lightning storm, then waiting. This usually cleared out all but the toughest foes. :)

I liked Blizzard, but when I respecc'd I chose not to renew it and chose Earthquake instead which I don't like as much. I may go back to Blizzard if I can fit it into the big scheme of spell trees. :)
 
I liked Blizzard, but when I respecc'd I chose not to renew it and chose Earthquake instead which I don't like as much. I may go back to Blizzard if I can fit into the big scheme of spell trees. :)

I find blizzard to be superior to earthquake as it does what Earthquake does AND it does damage. That and there is a spell combo behind Blizzard....
 
Thanks for the info Lucifiel. I'm going play the warden quest, then pick up the next one after I complete my second play-through -- which is on hold for Mass Effect 2.
 
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