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my machine and RAM passed the extended hardware test. the hitachi 250GB drive i had waiting is DOA however :(

everything seems to work well. i haven't noticed anything abnormal, it all seems fine. i'm running a 20" HP L2023 monitor i got for $883 with shipping as my main monitor. it has multiple inputs and looks gorgeous. my second one is a 17" Cinema Display. i just mention the HP in case people want a cheaper alternative to the Apple displays, and/or want to avoid these weird problems being reported. anyway i'll have some pics when it's all set-up. unfortunately i lost a day troubleshooting that drive, trying to get it to respond.
 
Bad Batch?

MrMac said:
I picked up another Dual 2.5 the other Day and Fan Noise is is almost absent. The Previous Dual 2.5 has Fan Reving Issues. I wonder if I got the Bad first Batch first and then got the new one from a newer Good Batch.

Anyways the Newer One is running very Quiet now.

Hmmmmm........mine was built 8/5 (in the USA as reported by TechTool Pro) and has its share of revs even with unstuffing moderate sized files. It is quiet more often than not but is there an issue that Apple has to address here? If not, the 2 GHz is looking better day by day. :confused:
 
Well,

Im back on the waiting list... Got my Apple UK 15/6 order on 23/8 to find that it suffers from the random sleep problem.

CPU Die A and B were reaching temperatures of up to 97c in massive spikes completely unrelated to processor load or RAM usage (it happened under heavy load a few times, and under no load at all [and I mean just one user logged in - no apps or user processes running, apart from Temperature Monitor] a few times.

Normal CPU Die A and B temperature levels remained between 55 - 75c

All other temperatures remained normal throughout these CPU spikes.

As of today it was classed as DOA (not without a struggle). Interestingly the second Apple support fella (the first sent me away after doing a PMU reset to see if it worked) remarked that he had a liquid cooled computer and the temps stayed around 40c, I pointed out that the 2.5 G5 was also liquid cooled, and he stumbled over his words and said 'no I mean a proper liquid cooled computer", I replied with "what, a PC?" and he said "yes"...

You know that feeling when you realise you just wasted the last 30 minutes? Yeah, me too...

He told me to take it to my local Apple Repair place to get it fixed. I didnt argue and got off the line with him ASAP and called back today (Apple Support #3) and demanded that it was picked up and replaced with a new unit.

So, now I await a call from a company called 'AMSYS' who will apparently replace my G5. Im a little worried about this to be honest as the Apple Support lady couldnt give me any straight answer as to why Apple weren't shipping me a new machine themselves. Perhaps AMSYS took over picking up machines from DHL in the UK? Who knows...

My theories as to what is wrong with my G5 are that either there are random spikes in power supply to the CPUs, heating them quicker than the cooling system can cool them - up to that golden number of 97c when the machine shuts itself down. Or that there is some sort of lapse in the liquid cooling system every so often that creates these spikes in temperature as the fans make no real difference alone as they are trying to cool the liquid.

Of course theory #2 is hard to prove because we dont know what the liquid cooling is doing whereas you can hear when the fans spin up. The signal that the sleep is going to happen is the fans spinning up to full belt, and if you watch the temperature graph you see an initial spike, then a small dip as the fans kick in to control the heat, then another spike which shuts off the machine. This all happens in around 5 seconds. When the machine is woken up (say, 5 seconds later) the CPU temps are right back down at 50c.

Anyway, enough of my rambling. If you have these problems, dont be fobbed off with the repairs. Keep calling and demand something be done. I read a handy tip over at the Apple Discussion Boards - If a machine develops a fault within 14 days of delivery, and the customer has made 3 or more calls to Support without a resolution to their problem, then their machine can be classed as DOA, and they are entitled to a replacement.

Remember though, you have to push them or they will make it your problem. And also, my personal advice is that if you dont feel you are getting anywhere with a particular Rep, thank them, hang up, and call again and speak to someone else explaining that you weren't happy with the service.

Cheers.
 
subb

Sorry to hear about your problems man, what a pain in the arse!! - I must confess to feeling slightly worried about how many people seem to be having the elevated temperatures/sleep issues/and constant fan revving - I just hope my first purchase of a top end Mac doesn't bite me in the butt. :/
 
Yeah, same here, mr MacNabbit. And I also have that problem with my 23" display, since there are some bad reports on that one as well.. :eek:
 
New here ... hi to all !

Hi, I'm new to MacRumors and this is my first post at all. I hope my english is not to bad and would appreciate any corrections. :)
I read the whole threat in the last weeks.
I also ordered a 2.5, 3 Weeks ago, with AirPort card and the chaepest graphics card by a reseller. I hope it will arrive soon, because I'm goingt to fall in love with that beast :) And I hope to find some new friends here while I wait.
 
Just getting the facts

Gururafiki said:
This should work out if you have them ship it to the credit card holders address. I had to do this with my powerbook. It was under my name, but shipped to my step dads house with his credit card.


So you are saying have the billing address in my name and the shipping address in my parents name. (I wish they just had a place called cardholders name. Then I wouldn't have to worry about screwing up placing the order.)

Oh and I will take the advice to buy the least amount of ram from apple.

I plan on ordering on or before thursday...
 
tonicardo said:
So you are saying have the billing address in my name and the shipping address in my parents name. (I wish they just had a place called cardholders name. Then I wouldn't have to worry about screwing up placing the order.)
Well, if you're using your dad's credit card to pay for it, you'll have to use his address for the billing address. The billing address is what's used to verify that the credit card isn't being used fraudulently, so it has to be the address that the credit card company has on file.

Therefore, the previous poster's suggestion would be more along the lines of having BOTH the billing and shipping address be your dad's house, so that there's less verification needed. When the shipping address is different from the billing address, the risk of it being a stolen credit card increases (not many thieves are willing to have the products that they charge on a stolen credit card sent to the original cardholder's address). It just makes things easier down the road.
 
Updated spreadsheet & new feature

Here is the latest update with a new view called dashboard. Visit it and it will show you several different trend analysis that I will be updating. Tried to get it out yesterday but had to get chores done and do the social obligations thing. Sending this from my in-laws pc. Look it over I think you will like it :)
 
tamtam said:
Here is the latest update with a new view called dashboard. Visit it and it will show you several different trend analysis that I will be updating. Tried to get it out yesterday but had to get chores done and do the social obligations thing. Sending this from my in-laws pc. Look it over I think you will like it :)

Link doesn't work.
 
subb said:
Well,

Im back on the waiting list... Got my Apple UK 15/6 order on 23/8 to find that it suffers from the random sleep problem.

.

Same thing here. After all the delays and then having to argue that my display should be covered by apple care, finally got my new 2.5 from Gatwick on Friday night. This is my first mac and for about an hour all the previous customer service nightmares seemed worth it. Then it just started powering down or sleeping as soon as I did two things at once, or when I played chess or imported a cd. It seems to happen after the computer has been on for an hour or more. Anyhow, went through everything with technical support and today they declared it doa. My whole apple experience has been a complete disappointment. I've read of people getting replacement units with exactly the same issues. That and the prospect of another long waiting time (any idea how long they normally take?) does not inspire confidence in this company.
 
So, to add my two cents - I ordered my Dual 2.5 on July 21st - it shipped this morning. The only custom stuff I ordered was the Bluetooth package and an Airport Extreme card. No video card upgrade.

Hopefully this helps you get an idea of where your shipment date might fall.
 
tveric said:
So, to add my two cents - I ordered my Dual 2.5 on July 21st - it shipped this morning. The only custom stuff I ordered was the Bluetooth package and an Airport Extreme card. No video card upgrade.

Hopefully this helps you get an idea of where your shipment date might fall.


congrats tveric, the wait wasn't very long for you, but you deserve it as much as we do, enjoy your new machine!
 
tonicardo said:
So you are saying have the billing address in my name and the shipping address in my parents name. (I wish they just had a place called cardholders name. Then I wouldn't have to worry about screwing up placing the order.)

Oh and I will take the advice to buy the least amount of ram from apple.

I plan on ordering on or before thursday...

No, sorry if I did not make sense. Have the billing and shipping address be your parents house. You can still ship it with your name as the receiver, but the shipping and billing address should be the same to avoid any problems.
 
Gururafiki said:
No, sorry if I did not make sense. Have the billing and shipping address be your parents house. You can still ship it with your name as the receiver, but the shipping and billing address should be the same to avoid any problems.

Thanks to all of you that have helped me deal with the process of ordering before ordering. I just wanted to know what I am doing first instead of just taking a stab at it.

That and I needed some time to make sure that my 2.5 pick was the right one to go with and I think so, but it does worry me with all these reportings of problems. I guess I should just order and worry about it when it arrives.

Now alls I have to do is to get that credit card and place the order...
 
tonicardo said:
Thanks to all of you that have helped me deal with the process of ordering before ordering. I just wanted to know what I am doing first instead of just taking a stab at it.

You've recieved good advice from everyone that's responded. But to just make absolutely certain and to ease your mind, I suggest calling the Apple Online Store and talking with them. You can do this when you place your order or before.

I'm sure you're not the first person in this situation.

Hopefully, you won't have to wait to long to receive it. I still haven't ordered mine yet.
 
6800

How long do you think it will be until the 6800 graphics card is released as a stand alone product? Also, how much do you reckon it will cost ($ £ Euro)?
 
whookam said:
How long do you think it will be until the 6800 graphics card is released as a stand alone product? Also, how much do you reckon it will cost ($ £ Euro)?


Oops, don't worry. Already on sale at UK store for £449. A tad steep for a graphics card me thinks. Do you think it will get cheaper anytime soon?
 
I've been reading about quite a bit of errors with the dual 2.5's....

Just to give people some hope, I received mine on Wednesday the 25th and it is nothing less than utter perfection. Even with my ear up to the case the fans are *whisper* quiet.

Good luck with all of yours gents.... you definitely won't regret your purchase.
 
Chair made for long hours at the computer.

Mr MacNabbit said:
Great chair! - what car is that out of, and did you build it yourself?

It is from a 2000 Chevy/GMC Full Size Pickup. Leather. 16 Way power. Heated. 2 Position Memory. Power Lumbar. I have to run it from a battery underneath and hook it up to a trickle charger as needed. Oh yeah, and integrated seat belt!

As a mechanical engineer, I am just as much a geek with mechanical things as with computers. Built it myself. I used to work for GM on the development of that truck. I "don't know" how it came into my possession ;)

Man this dual 2.5 flies. Has anyone else had problems installing the G5 plugin for Photoshop? It gives me an error saying "The software to be installed requires a G5 computer." Uh, duh. Then it quits without installing anything.

Good luck to those still waiting and for those that have already received theirs... Enjoy.
 

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