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Got our 2.5 up and running tonight...though we had it for like the past 2 weeks..mostly because my biz wasn't ready for it yet.

The only thing I got was some basic upgrades..like 1GB of ram/extreme airport/ and the ethernet card.

One thing I did notice is how fast this is compared to my old 1Ghz G4 PB.
It can actually do some heavy work and still not get bogged down.

I'm very impressed...maybe because I was actually expecting less..which is what you get with most PC upgrades..

All I know I want a 3Ghz for home...come on Steve I need one!! Though if we see another speed bump to the PB line I may jump on one of those to replace my almost 2 yr old Ti PB. It still runs good but needs ram and is needed to run some streaming audio for my shop.

I'm still impressed with the data tranfer from my old PB to the G5 it only took about 45 mins for the whole thing to take place...even though it said at one time 2 hrs.

I can't wait for Tiger...because right now Panther is just zooming on this thing.
 
Belgium reseller update

Well, concerning the fact they are only shipping BTO machine to resellers :

I called my rep, and Apple.com will know more on thursday, he'll call me back.
I don't get it, how come they don't know anything? And they know they will on thursday, some meeting, or are the supervisors on a team building week.. :confused:

anyway, still waiting, since the 13th of june.
 
Love my MAC, hate the speaker

I love it but....
that internal speaker is crap... sorry for the language but it is. The usual speaker allowed rough listening but this is absolute rubbish. As time as passed my macs have resounded with an ever deepening DONG on startup. This speaker is like putting a childs bicycle horn on a mac truck (people will laugh). I think a purchase of Logitech Z680 5.1 Computer Speakers is on the cards.. £215 English, $209 USA (that can't be right)amazon prices.
any recomendations?
don
 
Still waiting... 4 July

donaldfleming said:
I love it but....
that internal speaker is crap... sorry for the language but it is. The usual speaker allowed rough listening but this is absolute rubbish. As time as passed my macs have resounded with an ever deepening DONG on startup. This speaker is like putting a childs bicycle horn on a mac truck (people will laugh). I think a purchase of Logitech Z680 5.1 Computer Speakers is on the cards.. £215 English, $209 USA (that can't be right)amazon prices.
any recomendations?
don

I've just got hold of Altec Lansing FX6021 speakers for my yet to arrive 2.5.
They look gorgeous next to the 23" display and they sound good too. :)
Next ETA 16 Sept :(
 
donaldfleming said:
I love it but....
that internal speaker is crap... sorry for the language but it is. The usual speaker allowed rough listening but this is absolute rubbish. As time as passed my macs have resounded with an ever deepening DONG on startup. This speaker is like putting a childs bicycle horn on a mac truck (people will laugh). I think a purchase of Logitech Z680 5.1 Computer Speakers is on the cards.. £215 English, $209 USA (that can't be right)amazon prices.
any recomendations?
don

So in other words, the plan worked precisely as intended?
 
Sorry if this has already been answered but i do not have the time to read 182 pages of posts...

Has Anyone in the UK received their 2.5GHz G5 Yet????

I have 4 on order with MicroWarehouse from the day announced... like 3 months ago!
 
mum4d said:
Sorry if this has already been answered but i do not have the time to read 182 pages of posts...

Has Anyone in the UK received their 2.5GHz G5 Yet????

I have 4 on order with MicroWarehouse from the day announced... like 3 months ago!

Their have been people who received theirs through reseller in the uk, but they were BTO, as they aren't shipping stock configs to resellers for now..

what did you order?
 
klaus said:
Their have been people who received theirs through reseller in the uk, but they were BTO, as they aren't shipping stock configs to resellers for now..

what did you order?

4 x standard 2.5Ghz G5's plus RAM to up them all to 2Ghz RAM

I wonder if it will be quicker to cancel my order and reorder BTO. Same spec but without the modem. (Who uses modems these days?)
 
mum4d said:
4 x standard 2.5Ghz G5's plus RAM to up them all to 2Ghz RAM

I wonder if it will be quicker to cancel my order and reorder BTO. Same spec but without the modem. (Who uses modems these days?)

That's exactly what I was thinking and I asked my rep this, but he didn't answer, only thing he said he would know by thursday why they aren't shipping standard configs.

and thursday they'll say, "standard configs will ship 2 weeks". And 2 weeks will be 3 weeks, and by the time we get them, it'll be october.

edit: as you can see, filled with joy, and the possibility that my 23" display is ****ed up is about 50%, since a lot of apple stores have displays on demo with this issue (can you believe that??)
 
klaus said:
That's exactly what I was thinking and I asked my rep this, but he didn't answer, only thing he said he would know by thursday why they aren't shipping standard configs.

and thursday they'll say, "standard configs will ship 2 weeks". And 2 weeks will be 3 weeks, and by the time we get them, it'll be october.

edit: as you can see, filled with joy, and the possibility that my 23" display is ****ed up is about 50%, since a lot of apple stores have displays on demo with this issue (can you believe that??)

Thursday sounds good.:)

I was told by MacWarehouse that Apple have given the date of the 9th for a delivery.... thats Thursday!!!!!
But I wont hold my breath as they have given me dates before that just pass without a thing :(
 
APPLE AUSTRALIA CAN ONLY CONFIRM THAT THE G5 POWERMAC 2.5 EXISTS. NOTHING MORE.

Hi All,

Been lurking for a long-time on Macrumors. Had to sign up and share the story of my contact with Apple Australia.

Short version, ordered BTO 9 July from top notch reseller ... delayed till mid-August ... end August ... mid September ... end September. No 6800, that's separate. Usual story. Difference is Apple Australia refuse to provide much of the information that many of you here are getting.

Here in Australia, resellers have seen VERY few stock machines and no BTO. I know a few so I called them all to check. No BTO's through resellers yet. Stock models are trickling through in ones and twos. In the past two weeks I have spoken to Apple repeatedly to the point that I mailed a written complaint. Usual rules to be taken seriously; be polite, stick to the facts, be clear that the situation is not satisfactory, ask for a written response regarding action. Klaus, Duffman and alike are on the right track.

Following my latest phone call today, I recommend to all Australian users of this forum and any aussie they know who is waiting on G5's to start writing.

Apple Australia cannot and will not confirm any information regarding Dual 2.5 shipments or lack thereof. The only question I got a clear and direct answer on was "Can you confirm that the product exists?". I'm an Apple investor and knew more about Apple's manufacturing than they did. Read the 10K, page 13, Geographic Operations. Apple Australia do NOT compensate customers. This is policy. Furthermore they all but confirmed that resellers are second-class citizens. When I asked what she meant by "different treatment", she put me on hold, then returned and retracted the comment. Mistake maybe, but it was confirmed that there is one system for Apple Store Online (we have no stores) and one for resellers.

At this point I am awaiting a call tomorrow from an executive as Customer Care cannot help. What is clear is that Apple Australia have not been pressured by the users enough to acknowledge the problem. The thing is, in Australia our consumer affairs laws and agencies (ACCC, NSW Fair Trading etc.) have teeth. If we are not happy we should exercise our rights. Depending on the phone call tomorrow I will be.

What will be the result of all this? It is unlikely that a machine will arrive any earlier. I'm a realist. However unless an issue is raised and handled then it slides by. Apple Australia is sliding by nicely at the moment.

What I am doing and you should do:
1. Dealing direct with Apple Australia on 133 622, press 9, ask for Customer Care (Angie, Natalie or Kylie). Get your W order number from the reseller first.
2. WRITE YOUR COMPLAINT and post to Apple Computer Australia, 16 Rodborough Road, Frenchs Forest NSW 2086. Be polite but clear. MUST BE WRITTEN TO REGISTER AS RECORDED COMMUNICATION, APPLE DON"T RECORD THEIR PHONE CALLS TO CUSTOMER CARE.
3. Noting all the information you hear and but stick to the facts. Be calm but clear that you are looking for a resolution.
4. Organising correspondence with all the Australian Mac User Groups (thanks Apple for the helpful list) to find others in the same boat. 1 person can be ignored, 30 make a bigger impact. Australia is a small market but that doesn't mean we should be ignored.
5. Asking Australians on this forum to PM me.

A final note of illustration. I asked the Apple person what they would think if they were buying a car and told it would be ready in three weeks. Then 3 weeks later calling dealership, who hadn't bothered to contact the customer, to be told another 3 weeks. 3 weeks later, customer having to call again, to be told another 3 weeks. I asked if the Apple Australia rep would call that acceptable, she said "no, i'd buy another car" ... she suggested a PC. I asked what vendor could sell me a PC that could run Mac OS X, FCP and Motion for professional work. She replied "Well ... yes ...".

Apologies for the long rant, but it serves as both first post for me and information for the community.
 
mum4d said:
Sorry if this has already been answered but i do not have the time to read 182 pages of posts...

Has Anyone in the UK received their 2.5GHz G5 Yet????

I have 4 on order with MicroWarehouse from the day announced... like 3 months ago!

yes I had mine delivered last week (arrived 2nd Sept) ordered from reseller 11 june, then cancelled (18 Aug) and re-ordered from applestore. Given eta of 4-6 weeks, arrived in 2 weeks. 2.5+BT+kbd+mouse. Went from cork to holland to collect finalcut express then to Yorkshire in 3 days.
 
You never know when you are well off!

donaldfleming said:
yes I had mine delivered last week (arrived 2nd Sept) ordered from reseller 11 june, then cancelled (18 Aug) and re-ordered from applestore. Given eta of 4-6 weeks, arrived in 2 weeks. 2.5+BT+kbd+mouse. Went from cork to holland to collect finalcut express then to Yorkshire in 3 days.


Prisoner You lucky lucky bastard.
Brian What?
Prisoner Proper little jailers pet, aren't we?
Brian What do you mean?
Prisoner You must have slipped him a few sheckles, eh?
Brian Slipped him a few sheckles? You saw him spit in my face.
Prisoner Oh! What wouldn't I give to be spat at in the face. I sometimes hang awake at night dreaming of being spat at in the face.
Brian Well it's not exactly friendly, is it? They have me in manacles!
 
JW Pepper said:
Prisoner You lucky lucky bastard.
Brian What?
Prisoner Proper little jailers pet, aren't we?
Brian What do you mean?
Prisoner You must have slipped him a few sheckles, eh?
Brian Slipped him a few sheckles? You saw him spit in my face.
Prisoner Oh! What wouldn't I give to be spat at in the face. I sometimes hang awake at night dreaming of being spat at in the face.
Brian Well it's not exactly friendly, is it? They have me in manacles!

Told 'em If I don't get it in 2 weeks I'm selling my soul to Microsoft and it'll be your fault so you'll be joining me in hell (and you'll have to work lotus 123 on a 486)
 
Jaz said:
APPLE AUSTRALIA CAN ONLY CONFIRM THAT THE G5 POWERMAC 2.5 EXISTS. NOTHING MORE.

Hi All,

Been lurking for a long-time on Macrumors. Had to sign up and share the story of my contact with Apple Australia.

Short version, ordered BTO 9 July from top notch reseller ... delayed till mid-August ... end August ... mid September ... end September. No 6800, that's separate. Usual story. Difference is Apple Australia refuse to provide much of the information that many of you here are getting.

Here in Australia, resellers have seen VERY few stock machines and no BTO. I know a few so I called them all to check. No BTO's through resellers yet. Stock models are trickling through in ones and twos. In the past two weeks I have spoken to Apple repeatedly to the point that I mailed a written complaint. Usual rules to be taken seriously; be polite, stick to the facts, be clear that the situation is not satisfactory, ask for a written response regarding action. Klaus, Duffman and alike are on the right track.

Following my latest phone call today, I recommend to all Australian users of this forum and any aussie they know who is waiting on G5's to start writing.

Apple Australia cannot and will not confirm any information regarding Dual 2.5 shipments or lack thereof. The only question I got a clear and direct answer on was "Can you confirm that the product exists?". I'm an Apple investor and knew more about Apple's manufacturing than they did. Read the 10K, page 13, Geographic Operations. Apple Australia do NOT compensate customers. This is policy. Furthermore they all but confirmed that resellers are second-class citizens. When I asked what she meant by "different treatment", she put me on hold, then returned and retracted the comment. Mistake maybe, but it was confirmed that there is one system for Apple Store Online (we have no stores) and one for resellers.

At this point I am awaiting a call tomorrow from an executive as Customer Care cannot help. What is clear is that Apple Australia have not been pressured by the users enough to acknowledge the problem. The thing is, in Australia our consumer affairs laws and agencies (ACCC, NSW Fair Trading etc.) have teeth. If we are not happy we should exercise our rights. Depending on the phone call tomorrow I will be.

What will be the result of all this? It is unlikely that a machine will arrive any earlier. I'm a realist. However unless an issue is raised and handled then it slides by. Apple Australia is sliding by nicely at the moment.

What I am doing and you should do:
1. Dealing direct with Apple Australia on 133 622, press 9, ask for Customer Care (Angie, Natalie or Kylie). Get your W order number from the reseller first.
2. WRITE YOUR COMPLAINT and post to Apple Computer Australia, 16 Rodborough Road, Frenchs Forest NSW 2086. Be polite but clear. MUST BE WRITTEN TO REGISTER AS RECORDED COMMUNICATION, APPLE DON"T RECORD THEIR PHONE CALLS TO CUSTOMER CARE.
3. Noting all the information you hear and but stick to the facts. Be calm but clear that you are looking for a resolution.
4. Organising correspondence with all the Australian Mac User Groups (thanks Apple for the helpful list) to find others in the same boat. 1 person can be ignored, 30 make a bigger impact. Australia is a small market but that doesn't mean we should be ignored.
5. Asking Australians on this forum to PM me.

A final note of illustration. I asked the Apple person what they would think if they were buying a car and told it would be ready in three weeks. Then 3 weeks later calling dealership, who hadn't bothered to contact the customer, to be told another 3 weeks. 3 weeks later, customer having to call again, to be told another 3 weeks. I asked if the Apple Australia rep would call that acceptable, she said "no, i'd buy another car" ... she suggested a PC. I asked what vendor could sell me a PC that could run Mac OS X, FCP and Motion for professional work. She replied "Well ... yes ...".

Apologies for the long rant, but it serves as both first post for me and information for the community.

You sound like you are having the exact same problems as me. I was forced to order through a reseller 'cause I rent and only have a PO box address which apple won't ship to. My poor reseller has been told NOTHING about the 2.5 shipments. When we aussies look at our shipment info pages all we get is "to be confirmed" in every field.

I have foolishly ordered a 2.5/250GDHD/6800DDL and my poor reseller can tell me nothing. I ordered late July and by the looks of this thread the best i can hope for is late october. when I ordered the Apple store told me 3-5 weeks. Now I'm facing an almost four month wait, and Apple aren't giving my reseller any warnings of these delays. We aren't offered any of these special deals people are mentioning..... it sucks.

I want to contact Apple myself but since I am going through a reseller it is harder. Looking at your thread though, I will use the info and make a complaint. This is no way to treat your customers. My total setup is nearly $11k. Doesn't apple want my cash?

I hate being so negative towards my beloved Apple.

PS

Also, Does ANYBODY have a 6800? Anywhere in the world? Do these cards exist??
 
waiting for answer from apple (belgium)

I sent apple Belgium a mail some weeks ago (i just complained about the fact my machines does not get delivered). What they said (basically):
- situation is worldwide, not Belgium-related
- causes are (they said they where clearly expressed in the press): components, IBM, vacations...
- first in first out distribution
- big European backlog
- we do everything we can...

My questions - in second mail last week (reply on their answers), after I still had no G5 a week ago:
- why does first in first out apparently not apply to applestore-resellers, since I know persons ho ordered 2 weeks ago via apple-store, and had already received their machines. (note: this is forbidden in BE, it is false competition)
- please point me to a OFFICIAL reaction or PRESS RELEASE from APPLE. (note: Apple tells us not to believe rumours etc.)
- why dont they ever change the so-called products availability on their website? For over three months 'within 3-5 weeks' is stated.
 
macetaria, you were lucky they replied to your email, I'd think they'd never respond to these questions..

It is a world-wide problem according to that person, but how come the official Apple stores have gotten supply in a couple times a week? How come, they can deliver BTO machines, but don't deliver stock configs? This can't be due to a component problem, cause BTO's normally have a bigger change on component delay (extra hd, BT etc). So they are holding back the stock configs for a specific reason, but why?

I don't think they'll ever answer those questions, but that doesn't stop me from asking these to myself :)
 
Shipped

Got the shipping email this morning. Finally!

Ordered 7/12 w/6800 Ultra, delayed until 09/03, then until 9/14 with 9600xt. 6800, of course, has not shipped.
 
macetaria said:
I sent apple Belgium a mail some weeks ago (i just complained about the fact my machines does not get delivered). What they said (basically):
- situation is worldwide, not Belgium-related
- causes are (they said they where clearly expressed in the press): components, IBM, vacations...
- first in first out distribution
- big European backlog
- we do everything we can...

My questions - in second mail last week (reply on their answers), after I still had no G5 a week ago:
- why does first in first out apparently not apply to applestore-resellers, since I know persons ho ordered 2 weeks ago via apple-store, and had already received their machines. (note: this is forbidden in BE, it is false competition)
- please point me to a OFFICIAL reaction or PRESS RELEASE from APPLE. (note: Apple tells us not to believe rumours etc.)
- why dont they ever change the so-called products availability on their website? For over three months 'within 3-5 weeks' is stated.

It is a world wide problem but the laws vary from country to country. In Australia there may be law which Apple must adhere to regarding advertising and information distribution.

I acknowledge that users everywhere have this issue, but this is why it is all the more important to check local law and complaints procedure and use it. May have an effect, and may not.

You're final point for example violates the "bait and switch" provision in most consumer law. You can't advertise a product as available and then switch it when you can't supply what you advertised UNLESS it was stated in the original ad "while stocks last" or "limited time only". If you say 3-5 weeks as part of the sales process, you can be held to it depending on local law. This may be the case in Australia, which is why I urge all those still waiting to start applying pressure beyond calling Apple and getting a meaningless update.
 
PowerMac New Generation in 4 months?

Just saw this from MacRumours:

http://www.macosrumors.com/90604A.php

The PowerMac line is rumoured to hit Rev. C that will ship in 4 months. Notably, the super drive will support dual-layer DVD+R burning (8.5 GB), 16X DVD-R, etc. All of this from reliable sources so they say.

Mmmmmm.......What else?

Oh well, Rev B was intoduced in June and January will be 9 months later if Apple get's its act together and starts shipping on time. :rolleyes:

I guess what I see as ironic, is that there haven't even been enough 2.5's out there that an "in depth" review has been written, like in one of the magazines yet. The shipping delays on this product have been 3 months and are still ongoing. Most people are still waiting. You can't walk into your local CompUSA and try one out. The Apple store is still quoting 3-5 weeks. Its even shorter on the new iMac, 2-4 weeks.
 
Delayed again, and again and a....

Hello all fellow mac men, women

Havent posted here for years. But this here matter got me on my saddle again.

I dont want to get on rant here but:

Ordered 11/6

pmac G5 2x2.5, 1gig ram, 9800XT

Just had to reorder on 29/6 for the 6800 card (stuuupid) and also added a new shiny 23 inch cinema display.

Have had several estimated ship dates and the last one expired today, and I get a nice email from them, that I can expect it to ship by the 8 OF OKTOBER, THATS 4 MONTH`S JUST TO SHIP, MAYBEE!!!

Ok when I read the mail I get quite pissed and I dont usually get pissed. I call applestore ready to shout at somebody, and get this nice girl on the line that I have talked with before. I can´t whine to a nice girl with a french accent that´s probably a nice looking one too!(and she´s working at apple so she´s cool) So I end up being really nice to her and she give´s me priority on my order. Dont know if that helps alot but it may...

Yeah I have read this thread for some time... and sorry for all the typos.
 
nanumac said:
I dont want to get on rant here

...and get this nice girl on the line that I have talked with before. I can´t whine to a nice girl with a french accent that´s probably a nice looking one too!(and she´s working at apple so she´s cool) So I end up being really nice to her and she give´s me priority on my order. Dont know if that helps alot but it may...

Hi nanumac, you're not ranting, there have been worse cases in here ;)
I think that october date is a little far fetched, and is just a safety net for Apple. I wouldn't pay too much attention to those ETA dates.

as for the girl, true, hard to yell at someone who sounds cute :p
 
FugiMax said:
Got the shipping email this morning. Finally!

Ordered 7/12 w/6800 Ultra, delayed until 09/03, then until 9/14 with 9600xt. 6800, of course, has not shipped.

We in Europe have to wait for the 6800, Apple will not ship 9600 and b/0 the 6800 :(
 
"it almost came" ... "it" is not the powermac, though the powerbook came ... after ordering a powerbook 17" on july 22nd, it came today (september 7th) ... it's great . i have it completly updated to 128mb vram and 5400rmp hd, and i just installed motion (which came 2 times in a french version, and with the third sending from apple it was finally an english version!¿!)

so ... still waiting for the dual 2.5 (also ordered july 22nd)
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Availability Problem!!!!

I am having a problem getting any flavor of Apple computer!

Besides the known availability problem with the 2.5, I cannot get my hands on a 2.0, 1.8, or even an eMac (iMac's are obviously unavailable at this time for known reasons)!!!! My rep says that it is an Apple HW issue all around the board?? It is rediculous for Apple to have an availability problem throughout their whole line!! I have a large order in and we have already been waiting over 2 weeks!!!

Anyone else having problems other than the 2.5?

Thanks!
 
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