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hotwire132002 said:
I ran CineBench (the non-G5 beta version).

I've never used it before, are the results the data in the "Console" window? If so, I'll post them in as soon as I hear that that's correct. Then, I'll take a break from the board for a little bit.

Yes that's correct. I think there is an option copy to clipboard. When you are interested on http://www.3dfluff.com/mash/cbdual.php there is a large list with Cinebench results for PC's and Mac's.

Thank you very much!!!

odo
 
odo said:
Yes that's correct. I think there is an option copy to clipboard. When you are interested on http://www.3dfluff.com/mash/cbdual.php there is a large list with Cinebench results for PC's and Mac's.

Thank you very much!!!

odo

Benchmarks are below.

I'll warn you, this is the first time I've done benchmarks, so I have no idea if I got the right info. Someone who knows something about benchmarking, tell me how these look!

CINEBENCH 2003 v1
****************************************************

Tester : Eric Wotila

Processor : Dual 2.5Ghz G5
MHz : 2500
Number of CPUs : 2
Operating System : Mac OS 10.3.4

Graphics Card : ATI Radeon 9600XT
Resolution : 1280x1024
Color Depth : 32-bit

****************************************************

Rendering (Single CPU): 274 CB-CPU
Rendering (Multiple CPU): 481 CB-CPU

Multiprocessor Speedup: 1.75

Shading (CINEMA 4D) : 326 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Software Lighting) : 830 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Hardware Lighting) : 1636 CB-GFX

OpenGL Speedup: 5.02

****************************************************
 
hotwire132002 said:
Benchmarks are below.

I'll warn you, this is the first time I've done benchmarks, so I have no idea if I got the right info. Someone who knows something about benchmarking, tell me how these look!

Did you download the G5 optimized beta? Those scores look a little low. Just curious...

[edit] sorry just saw your previous post... thanks!
 
hotwire132002 said:
Benchmarks are below.

I'll warn you, this is the first time I've done benchmarks, so I have no idea if I got the right info. Someone who knows something about benchmarking, tell me how these look!

CINEBENCH 2003 v1
****************************************************

Tester : Eric Wotila

Processor : Dual 2.5Ghz G5
MHz : 2500
Number of CPUs : 2
Operating System : Mac OS 10.3.4

Graphics Card : ATI Radeon 9600XT
Resolution : 1280x1024
Color Depth : 32-bit

****************************************************

Rendering (Single CPU): 274 CB-CPU
Rendering (Multiple CPU): 481 CB-CPU

Multiprocessor Speedup: 1.75

Shading (CINEMA 4D) : 326 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Software Lighting) : 830 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Hardware Lighting) : 1636 CB-GFX

OpenGL Speedup: 5.02

****************************************************

Thanks again hotwire!!

As expected your system is a lot faster than a dual 2.0 but surprisingly a bit slower than a preproduction model 2.5 that had the following benchmark:

For reference, Dual 2.0GHz PowerMac/Radeon 9600 Pro benchmarks from Xlr8yourmac's overview are provided in parenthesis.

CINEBENCH 2003 v1
****************************************************
Processor : PowerMac G5
MHz : 2500
Number of CPUs : 2
Operating System : OS X 10.3.4
Graphics Card : GF 6800 Ultra DDL
Resolution : 2560x1600
Color Depth : millions
****************************************************
Rendering (Single CPU): 356 CB-CPU (Dual 2.0 = 219)
Rendering (Multiple CPU): 633 CB-CPU (Dual 2.0 = 401)

Multiprocessor Speedup: 1.78 (Dual 2.0 = 1.83)

Shading (CINEMA 4D): 335 CB-GFX (Dual 2.0 = 266)
Shading (OpenGL Software Lighting) : 995 CB-GFX (Dual 2.0 = 661)
Shading (OpenGL Hardware Lighting) : 1794 CB-GFX (Dual 2.0 = 1168)

OpenGL Speedup: 5.36 (Dual 2.0 = 4.40)

But hey that model had the 6800 ultra, so your G5 looks just great. I ordered myself the same configuration so I know now what (not when)
to expect.

odo
 
DWKlink said:
Did you download the G5 optimized beta? Those scores look a little low. Just curious...

[edit] sorry just saw your previous post... thanks!

Thanks for the benchmarks hotwire!

Well this must have been the unoptimised version, which gives actual rendering spped somewhere very close to the 1.8 dual speed with the optimised versions.

So, a little dissapointing I guess. :/ - that's the unfortunate thing about the optimised version - it's only a test program - none of that optimisation is in Cinema 4D yet, so as good as te top figures look with it, they aren't real at the moment. :[

Ah well - it's still going to be nearly 5 times faster than my current G4 1Ghz :)
 
odo said:
Thanks again hotwire!!

As expected your system is a lot faster than a dual 2.0 but surprisingly a bit slower than a preproduction model 2.5 that had the following benchmark:

For reference, Dual 2.0GHz PowerMac/Radeon 9600 Pro benchmarks from Xlr8yourmac's overview are provided in parenthesis.

odo

Yeah - but that review was apprantly deceptive as its clear that looking at the figures, that the 2.5 numbers were done with G5 optimised, and the 2.0 with the unoptimised - the gap looks much greater that way, but not an accurate scale for comparison.
 
Changing Moods

First of all, congrats to HotWire.
Second, sorry in advance if I change the mood of this topic, but I thought some would find this at least interesting...I thought I would be posting about receiving my new G5 today as well, NOT!

I've gone from excited, to thrilled, to worried, to unhappy, to happy, to excited, to pissed off.

I ordered a stock 2.5 and like many of you I finally got the word that it was sent on the 30th. I even spoke to FedEx yesterday (Aug 3rd) and was told that I'd receive my package today (Aug 4th). Called FedEx again today after a no-show and was told that the package left YESTERDAY and that I wouldn't receive it until MONDAY.
This isn't a toy. It's not something extra. It's a tool and a major part of my business.
I made plans based on expectations set by both Apple and FedEx.
Now I have to try to find alternate means of executing my current projects.
Mind you, I have a couple of days and I didn't make these plans until I was TOLD a hard delivery date. Of course all of that means nothing now.
It's just VERY frustrating.

- iAm Pissed Off
 
iAm said:
Called FedEx again today after a no-show and was told that the package left YESTERDAY and that I wouldn't receive it until MONDAY.

Why Monday? What does your tracking status state at the very moment? Mine says it will be delivered tom...so how did yours change from today all the way to next week?
 
Mr MacNabbit said:
Yeah - but that review was apprantly deceptive as its clear that looking at the figures, that the 2.5 numbers were done with G5 optimised, and the 2.0 with the unoptimised - the gap looks much greater that way, but not an accurate scale for comparison.

Are you sure about that. Both hotwire's and the preproduction 2.5 say Cinebench 2003 v1. I guess this means both are optimised (or not?).
I'm happy to see the OGL scores for the 9600XT are very good and not far behind the 9600 ultra.

odo
 
G5-Optimized Version Benchmarks:

CINEBENCH 2003 v1
****************************************************

Tester : Eric Wotila

Processor : Dual 2.5Ghz G5
MHz : 2500
Number of CPUs : 2
Operating System : Mac OS X 10.3.4

Graphics Card : 9600XT
Resolution : 1280x1024
Color Depth : 32-bit

****************************************************

Rendering (Single CPU): 358 CB-CPU
Rendering (Multiple CPU): 607 CB-CPU

Multiprocessor Speedup: 1.70

Shading (CINEMA 4D) : 338 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Software Lighting) : 930 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Hardware Lighting) : 1596 CB-GFX

OpenGL Speedup: 4.72

****************************************************
 
odo said:
Are you sure about that. Both hotwire's and the preproduction 2.5 say Cinebench 2003 v1. I guess this means both are optimised (or not?).
I'm happy to see the OGL scores for the 9600XT are very good and not far behind the 9600 ultra.

odo

Yes - and his new results above prove it - they both sav 2003v1, and if you look at the existing benchmarks over at 3dfluff, you can see how they all match up.
 
I suspected that we wouldn't see a big jump between the 9600XT and the Ultra with Apple's current OGL implementation. Unfortunately.

People have been waiting a long time for the OGL changes. Wonder what the technical reasons, if any, are?
 
FedEx Status

LeonPro said:
Why Monday? What does your tracking status state at the very moment? Mine says it will be delivered tom...so how did yours change from today all the way to next week?

The only info they gave was that it had to clear customs and that it was received after the cutoff (Yeah, but that was 5 days ago).
I'll admit that I don't know much about logistics, exporting or international shipping. All I know is what is good customer service and good communication. This experience has been neither.

- iAm Still Pissed Off


Aug 4, 2004
8:15 pm
Left FedEx Ramp*
SHENZHEN CN*

Aug 3, 2004
8:05 pm
Package status*
SHENZHEN CN*

Jul 31, 2004
5:06 pm
Arrived at FedEx Ramp*
SHENZHEN CN*

Jul 30, 2004
11:43 pm
Left FedEx Origin Location*
SHENZHEN CN*

Jul 20, 2004
9:46 pm
Pickup status*
SHENZHEN CN*
Package received after FedEx cutoff time*
 
hotwire132002 said:
G5-Optimized Version Benchmarks:

Rendering (Single CPU): 358 CB-CPU
Rendering (Multiple CPU): 607 CB-CPU

So basically - from these results and the unoptimised before them, the D2.5 in reality renders about 20% faster than the D2.0, and if the software was optimised (please let it be soon!!) a further 25%+ is gained above the unoptimised speeds! :)
 
Thanks for the benchmarks and pics..Now I know exactly what to expect. My G5 left "The Ramp" today so hopefully it will arrive before the weekend. Just for the heck of it I ran cinebench on my current system...

CINEBENCH 2003 v1
****************************************************

Tester : Me

Processor : G4 Dual 450
MHz : 450
Number of CPUs : 2
Operating System : 10.3.4

Graphics Card : Radeon Mac Edition
Resolution : 1024 x 768, 85 Hz
Color Depth : 32-bit

****************************************************

Rendering (Single CPU): 49 CB-CPU
Rendering (Multiple CPU): 91 CB-CPU

Multiprocessor Speedup: 1.84

Shading (CINEMA 4D) : 64 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Software Lighting) : 105 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Hardware Lighting) : 76 CB-GFX

OpenGL Speedup: 1.64

*****

I am in for quite a speed bump----YAY
 
Amazed

Poeben said:
Thanks for the benchmarks and pics..Now I know exactly what to expect. My G5 left "The Ramp" today so hopefully it will arrive before the weekend.

Before you build your expectations, you might want to phone FedEx.
If you review my posts above, you'll see that mine left "The Ramp" today (actually yesterday) as well.

- iAm amazed that they can't get this together
 
Shipping Status

According to the FedEx web site my G5 is estimated to arrive tommorrow 8/5 by 10:30 PM. :D
 
Poeben said:
Thanks for the benchmarks and pics..Now I know exactly what to expect. My G5 left "The Ramp" today so hopefully it will arrive before the weekend. Just for the heck of it I ran cinebench on my current system...

Rendering (Single CPU): 49 CB-CPU
Rendering (Multiple CPU): 91 CB-CPU

Multiprocessor Speedup: 1.84

Shading (CINEMA 4D) : 64 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Software Lighting) : 105 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Hardware Lighting) : 76 CB-GFX

I am in for quite a speed bump----YAY

Yeah, your results are roughly the same as my single 1Ghz and G3Force4MX results - whatever way you look at it, we will get about 5 x the current render speed, and despite the lack of any real OGL progress (comparable to PC), the OGL display speeds are still going to be about 10 - 17x faster depending on the card you chose!! :D
 
Hotwire, if you get a chance, just curious what the 'accessory kit' turned out to be (not a USA line item for the 1.8 and 2.0 machines).

Not sure if it's in the photos or not.
 
iAm said:
Before you build your expectations, you might want to phone FedEx.
If you review my posts above, you'll see that mine left "The Ramp" today (actually yesterday) as well.

- iAm amazed that they can't get this together

With any luck, it actually fell OFF the ramp into the ocean and will float here 2-day. :p
 
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