Dual Camera Said to Be Exclusive to 5.5-Inch iPhone 7

[nicovh]

Two protruding cameras?

Colour me out.

*grabs crayons*

 

[Vanilla35]

I've never been more excited to not buy the iPhone 6SS, and wait for the 2017 iPhone.

Thanks for that. I support this comment.

 

[DevNull0]

Personally, I'd rather have no camera and a 3.5mm stereo pin. Makes it so easy to choose when one company makes a product that is totally useless for me.

 

[LordQ]

I never thought I'd say this - the more iPhone 7 rumours, the more tempting the Galaxy S7 looks. If only it could run iOS...

 

[StoneJack]

I think 7 will have optical stabilization (currently only in 6s plus),
while 7plus will have OIS and dual lenses.
7Plus will have a BEAST of camera

 

[rudychidiac]

I'm thinking the same thing. But if Jobs was still around he would've said to figure out how to make it work or don't use it at all. I don't believe that fragmentation is something he wanted.

That's not fragmentation, it's just an extra feature, just like the 6 Plus has optical image stabilisation.

 

[carrrrrlos]

I see where this is going.

 

[Crosscreek]

Apple is becoming more and more disappointing as they drag on Mac's, slow HDs, expensive RAM upgrades and fragmented phone components.

 

[Ballis]

So not one but two warts on this one. Making their worst design ever even worse. Thats a feat few thought possible.

 

[rudychidiac]

It will be. Around 0.8mm to 1mm thinner.

Anyway my guess is that if it's thinner, then both the iPhone 7 and the iPhone 7 plus will be of the same thinness, so if the dual camera doesn't fit it's not because of the thickness, but rather the available space around the camera.

 

[warrior2000]

Apple is becoming more and more disappointing as they drag on Mac's, slow HDs, expensive RAM upgrades and fragmented phone components.

Then you should switch to Windows/Android.

Good luck with that.

 

[apolloa]

I think 7 will have optical stabilization (currently only in 6s plus),
while 7plus will have OIS and dual lenses

I doubt that, remember the latest expensive iPad Pro does not have OIS, and it's a 9.7" tablet! No excuses for lack of space. They literally just took the iPhone 6S camera and stuck it in, when they could have just as easily have taken the 6S Plus camera and put it in, yes it's a tablet and not many will take photos with them but if you're selling a device as a top end maximum specced 'Pro' device, then surely you would put your best camera in it too?
Apple likes profit too much, I would be very surprised if you see OIS in the non Plus iPhone.

 

[warrior2000]

So not one but two warts on this one. Making their worst design ever even worse. Thats a feat few thought possible.

And yet Apple will still sell over 200,000,000 of these phones for over $650 each.
And still get 99% satistaction ratings.

Maybe its time for YOU to switch to another brand.
Its obvious Apple is no longer getting you excited.

 

[Crosscreek]

Then you should switch to Windows/Android.

Good luck with that.

Already have Windows and Linux on my Mac but I may switch hardware.

 

[dberti22]

Dual cameras will be exclusive to Apple's next-generation 5.5-inch iPhone, according to a new research note issued by respected KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo.Rumors surrounding dual-camera iPhones have gained momentum since January, when Kuo said that Apple has both single- and dual-camera iPhone 7 Plus models in development. Recent reports have been unclear, however, about whether the 4.7-inch iPhone 7 will also have dual cameras.

Leaks surrounding the rumored dual cameras have been limited to a blurry photo of the purported iPhone 7 Plus (or iPhone Pro?) and a possible dual-lens module appropriate for the 5.5-inch smartphone. Apple reportedly received dual-lens camera samples from suppliers for testing purposes in February.

LinX Technology multi-aperture camera modules​

The rumored camera improvements have been linked to Apple's acquisition of LinX Technology, which could lead to "DSLR-quality" photos on iPhones. LinX's multi-aperture cameras are also smaller sized than single-aperture cameras, meaning the iPhone 7 Plus could have a slightly less protruding camera lens.

LinX camera modules have a number of other benefits, including 3D depth mapping, better color accuracy and uniformity, ultra HDR, low noise levels, higher resolution, low costs, zero shutter lag, and a compact design that allows for edge-to-edge displays. A recent video demo provides a good overview of dual-camera technology.

Apple recently patented a dual-camera system consisting of one standard wide-angle lens, similar to what is found in the latest iPhones, and a second telephoto lens capable of capturing zoomed-in video and photos. In a recent video, we visualized what the interface could look like on future iOS devices.

(Top Image: Cameraplex)

Article Link: Dual Camera Said to Be Exclusive to 5.5-Inch iPhone 7

Yes, the fragmentation is definitely nasty, but if you think about it, the functionality shown in the video would just be a bad mobile experience on a 4.7" screen.

 

[SMIDG3T]

Anyway my guess is that if it's thinner, then both the iPhone 7 and the iPhone 7 plus will be of the same thinness, so if the dual camera doesn't fit it's not because of the thickness, but rather the available space around the camera.

Hm. Well the iPhone 6s Plus (7.3mm) is 0.2mm thinner than the iPhone 6s (7.1mm) so it might well be that the iPhone 7 will be around 6.1mm and the iPhone 7 Plus will be around 6.3mm. You know Apple though, it'll be thinner either way!

 

[DevNull0]

I never thought I'd say this - the more iPhone 7 rumours, the more tempting the Galaxy S7 looks. If only it could run iOS...

That's funny. When the GS7 came out I spent about 45 minutes in the store comparing it to the iP6S, and I was thinking the exact same thing. As a piece of hardware, the S7 is so far superior to the iPhone in every way it's amazing. The OLED screen alone makes the S7 worth it.

But on the software side, it's just clunky and a pain to use. My dream phone would be GS7 hardware running iOS. I have a Galaxy S4 (I jumped ship from the iPhone for the larger screen), and I guess I'll be sticking with it. I can't bring myself to buy another android phone, and I don't want to downgrade my hardware as much as the iPhone is even from my 3 year old S4 (the old screen still looks so much better than anything from Apple).

 

[TommyA6]

While I agree in general with your sentiment, other than the camera is there anything else different about the 5.5" model? Marketing departments will always come up with ways to get people to spend more money. With iPhone Apple decided the camera would be that thing. How is this different than other companies that have phones with different specs at different price points? Nokia didn't bring its 41MP camera to every phone in its lineup. My guess is Apple marketing felt they wouldn't get enough people to spend $100 more for a slightly bigger screen so they decided to give it a better camera. I'm not arguing right or wrong just my guess at Apple's thinking.



And where exactly is the home button and Touch ID supposed to go? If new technology that got rid of the physical home button was available to be manufacturer en mass and Apple was working on it we'd know about it by now.



Right because Jobs could wave a magic wand and make whatever he wanted happen. There are 3 possibilities here: it's an engineering issue, it's a marketing decision or it's a bit of both. Or their might be a 4th possibility: supply constraints and the 5.5" model doesn't sell in the quanitity the 4.7" model does. Anyway I think Steve Jobs did a pretty good job of getting people to spend more money. Remember the black plastic MacBook that was more expensive than its white counterpart?

Make home button pill shaped and you can easily shave a few mm off from bottom and top. The side bezels should also be smaller. No improved technology needed there.

 

[X38]

What a silly statement.

This is like expecting a Honda Fit, Honda Civic, and Honda Accord to all have the exact same engine.

Dude every heard of geometry? You can't expect a small phone to pack in all the same hardware as a much larger phone. Just as you can't expect a sub compact car to have the same engine as a full sized car.

Nonsense. None of these features - camera, CPU, 3D Touch, Pencil, etc. take up a significant fraction of the available area and volume of the phone or tablet. There is more than enough space to fit them in all size devices. The only components that are too big to fit in the small from factor devices are the large screen and the extra battery needed to drive the larger screen. Those should be the only differentiating feature between different iPhone and iPad sizes.

Have you actually paid attention to any of the device tear down photos and looked at how little space is occupied by anything other than the screen and battery before throwing around unsupportable insults?

 

[iGeek2014]

Seeing as we've another 5 months until the iPhone 7/7 Plus lands I'm going to take this rumour with a pinch of salt.

I'm happy with my 6s Plus and if the biggest "upgrade" is going to be the dual camera I won't be bothering to change *should* the 'rumour' become truth.

 

[warrior2000]

I doubt that, remember the latest expensive iPad Pro does not have OIS, and it's a 9.7" tablet! No excuses for lack of space. They literally just took the iPhone 6S camera and stuck it in, when they could have just as easily have taken the 6S Plus camera and put it in, yes it's a tablet and not many will take photos with them but if you're selling a device as a top end maximum specced 'Pro' device, then surely you would put your best camera in it too?
Apple likes profit too much, I would be very surprised if you see OIS in the non Plus iPhone.

The camera is not a high priority item on a tablet. Regardless it still has the best camera of any tablet on the market.

Apple likes profit? WHAT A SHOCKER!!!! I can't believe Apple likes profit! I thought they were a charity all this time!
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Nonsense. None of these features - camera, CPU, 3D Touch, Pencil, etc. take up a significant fraction of the available area and volume of the phone or tablet. There is more than enough space to fit them in all size devices. The only components that are too big to fit in the small from factor devices are the large screen and the extra battery needed to drive the larger screen. Those should be the only differentiating feature between different iPhone and iPad sizes.

Have you actually paid attention to any of the device tear down photos and looked at how little space is occupied by anything other than the screen and battery before throwing around unsupportable insults?

I'm talking about iPhone.
I'm talking specificly about dual cameras on the iPhone7.

Of course dual cameras will take up more space than a single camera.

 

[vatter69]

While I agree in general with your sentiment, other than the camera is there anything else different about the 5.5" model?

Bigger Battery (roughly 1000 mAh more on the plus)
Full HD screen vs 720p retina marketing stuff
326 ppi vs 401 ppi

Some landscape features support on various apps (nothing too great really but still). Personally i bought the plus
because of the OIS, Full HD (watch movies in the gym) and larger Battery. I mean those are all features
that everyone wants right? Higher reso, longer run time, sharper display and photos.

Do i hate the big phone in my pants? Yep. Would i trade it back to a 4.7 phones and lose all the advantages ? Hell no.

 

[jclardy]

A lot of people are going to be upset about this but stop and think about it for a second. Do you REALLY need this feature?

The honest answer is no, the current cameras we have are quite sufficient for most tasks we use them for. But the issue is that people buy an iPhone for an awesome camera, and limiting the best camera to the large model is going to annoy a lot of people (Even the OIS being left out of 6/6s was an annoyance for a lot of people.)

 

[sputnikv]

Same w/ OIS... To differentiate both models.

I'd just chalk it up to Apple's marketing... pushing users to the bigger model.

and on the eve of such a move they release the SE

 

[warrior2000]

Already have Windows and Linux on my Mac but I may switch hardware.

Good for you.

Everyone has different needs and desires.

Maybe Apple product just isn't for you.
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The honest answer is no, the current cameras we have are quite sufficient for most tasks we use them for. But the issue is that people buy an iPhone for an awesome camera, and limiting the best camera to the large model is going to annoy a lot of people (Even the OIS being left out of 6/6s was an annoyance for a lot of people.)

I haven't meet a single person in the real world (not here in the bizaro word of tech forums) that was disappointed that the 6/6s did not have OIS.

If the 7+ has a dual camera and the 7 doesn't I'm pretty sure it will be the same. People in the real world just don't give a **** about tech specs.