Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Dumbfounded by all the hate.
- Thread starter dspdoc
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
I don't hate my 7 plus. But it's just not much of an improvement over the 6. I really like the phone, but it appears we are at a point where the tech has caught up with the usability. All these little improvements (except for better and better cameras) are kind of pointless when all I do is web, email, phone, camera, and a handful of other apps. And the apps have been changing, but roughly the same for a few years now. We've got all this new power...to do pretty much the same stuff we've been doing for several years.
I can't see upgrading until my 7 plus dies.
I can't see upgrading until my 7 plus dies.
I don't hate the notch
I don't hate FaceID and the lack of TouchID
I hate the price and the storage options, it's overpriced imo which ever way you slice it and the lack of 128GB, which should have the been the base for that price, is mind boggling.
[doublepost=1507417601][/doublepost]
I’m sticking with Apple for now definitely, nothings tempted me back.
Pixels are lacklustre to me.
I don't hate FaceID and the lack of TouchID
I hate the price and the storage options, it's overpriced imo which ever way you slice it and the lack of 128GB, which should have the been the base for that price, is mind boggling.
[doublepost=1507417601][/doublepost]
Personally I don't see anything amazing about the Pixels. Aside from the S8, the Pixel 2 was something I thought be interested in from the Android side. After leaving and joining Apple last year.
I’m sticking with Apple for now definitely, nothings tempted me back.
Pixels are lacklustre to me.
The hate I see is when people have criticisms and get attacked. We should be able to be critical of everything - our favorite sports team, gaming machine, politics, etc. and have it not viewed as an attack. I love Apple, but if someone here has a concern and isn’t a troll, I feel bad when they get hate.
Android is open source, but the typical Android phone does have closed source software and sends off a lot of data to Google. Yes, I know you can run a mostly open source Android with even open source drop-in replacements for Google services where you don't use Google. If you're doing this, more power to you. I'm also expecting things like drivers and firmware to be open source to really go all the way here.
In any case, even if your entire local software and hardware stack is open source, you're nullifying privacy if you're handing your data over to a third party.
The reason I own an iphone is the software, the commitment to updates and the privacy implications. I think for a lot of people, investing in something that will have phenomenal resale value, receive years of updates and not send every bit of minutia to google is just a price they’re willing to pay. Never mind I can go to an Apple store anytime.
Personally, I find the Pixel XL 2 appealing. But I know if I want anything after Android Q, I’m flashing a rom. I know google is collecting my information rampantly. I know I can’t go to a store if I have an issue.
The thing for me is, I’m not buying a third party device. Samsung is not going to support the S8 or Note 8 the way Apple will support the iPhone 8. Google perhaps will, but guess what .... want the XL? 849 dollars plus tax for the same storage, and it might ship in three weeks. Grass isn’t always greener in my opinion.
Happens every year. The real haters, the fake haters, haters that just signed up to hate, always wonder how much they paid for hating. There are those that have developed expectations based on rumors, desires, who knows what else.
In the end most every Apple user gets the new iPhone if they can afford it. The next thing will be how long it takes to get their’s. That will be a nutter time. Come about Valantine’s day it all quiets down. Everyone using phone, a few problems here and there solved in most part by Apple return replace. Then by 4th of July rumors start ramping up, it starts all over again. You can set your Apple Watch by it all.
Mean time other manufacturers copy as best they can. Apple makes more money than last year, and life goes on. Been like this for ten iterations.
That goes both ways. I see lots of people excited by the X and expressing that excitement, only to be shot down by others who gleefully tell them how awful they think it is.
It’s just the nature of online forums. It’s why we should really just take a look at the features, watch a few hands-on videos, read a few reviews and act according to our bank balance. The opinion of a random nobody is irrelevant (mine included), especially when they’re so extreme.
Why? At this point the gap has closed and even went the other way in some situations. I'm still 80% invested in Mac and Apple services, but I'm no longer of the mindset that I won't switch.
I'm typing right now on a custom pc I built. A couple years ago I couldn't imagine being here.
Mike, to be very honest with you, I have tried Android. It has its huge advantages, nevertheless it did not seem to be so compact as an iPhone (hardware+software). I liked the freedom it provided, but at the same time I hated all the background processes that the user is almost incapable of controlling, the bloatware and a number of small, but signficant glitches. Plus, I am far from being a fan of Google, to put it mildly.
Windoz... oh well, have been using it for decades. Never was, never will be a fan of this OS. I spent hundreds of hours solving issues and got fed up.
Just an example. I have a Samsung Tablet as well, loved it very much, but had to put it in the drawer as it has not received an update for years (SIC!) and today none of my favorite software are compatible with the old version.
The XL comes $239 cheaper, comes with the fast charger bundled in. The equivalent iPhone X costs $1089. The iPhone X is actually more inconvenient with FaceID because it's a Gen 1 product and it won't unlock the instant it's out of my pocket while the Pixel will. I find 3 years of software updates more then enough as I replace my phone every year or worst case 2 years. I have used an iPhone 6 and a 5s and currently own a 7 Plus and after 3 years these iPhones also slow down to the point of annoyance so even iPhone updates after 3 years just aren't worth it.
Sure. I’m not really considering the iPhone X here though. The 8+ has the features I want for 50 dollars cheaper, and you can go buy it today. Just me, but I’m not willing to pay 1k+ to be a guinea pig for the first gen without Touch ID.
The XL 2 is a bezelless OLED design compared to the dated design of the older LCD iPhones. So $50 is not much considering what you get. Apple doesn’t bundle a fast charger with the 8 while Google does and doesn’t charge 80 bucks for it so it’s not more expensive spec by spec.
As smart phones get more advanced the ability to add killer features will slow to a crawl as it has already. The only way to break and think different is to change what we use and how to communicate entirely. I think it’s going to be the wearable and not a phone. It’s not Apple or even Samsung that’s the problem... it’s the fact we are still using a phone. No matter how cool it is there are some major drawbacks to the smart phone experience and no amount of new features or added value can change that.
Last edited:
soon android flagship phone will be costing £1000 and over. just wait for 2018, 2019 and year 2020.
then we will see android fan's ignore everything.
yeah if you want to save money and cheap phone then get Moto G5 or OnePlus 5 for android
for ios get Iphone SE or iPhone 6S simple as.
then we will see android fan's ignore everything.
yeah if you want to save money and cheap phone then get Moto G5 or OnePlus 5 for android
for ios get Iphone SE or iPhone 6S simple as.
Well said. In my view, the iPhone X, is simply not up to the mark - in fact, no where close to the mark to meet the design expectations a lot of us had for a 10th anniversary device. I cannot express my disappointment at how Apple seems to be perfectly content with mediocrity these days. I guess it's safe to say that their days of creating simple, enjoyable and intuitive user experiences are clearly behind them.
And if that wasn't enough, their hubris still prevails, where they take functionality that people like away from devices (i.e. headphone jack on the iPhone, useful ports on the MacBook, TouchID on the iPhone X) - forcing people to embrace unwarranted change. Now, I fully expect someone to come in and say in typical MR fashion - 'but they're not forcing you to buy their devices' - and yes, they're not. But let me say this, whatever wave Apple's been riding is going to end soon, and their hubris will be their downfall.
You do know that Apple wasn't the first company to remove the headphone jack, right?
The iPhone was certainly the most mainstream phone to remove it though, hence why the impact was bigger. It’s cost them sales in certain markets so not everybody has been onboard with change for change sake.
So we finally have the tech to have wireless charging and headphones and now you don’t want it? They even kept the headphone jack in the SE. The wearable is the next big growth space in personal comm and they are there as well. This is only the beginning.
I realize that. I imagine some other phone makers will remove it in the next couple of years as well.
Again, by focusing on very specific parts of my post, you seem to be missing the larger point.