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Early 2008 MacBook Pro Whispers

Pressure said:
I want to chip in as well.

If Apple wants battery life to go up they will, of course, have 45nm Penryn, a wild guess, a 55nm Mobility Radeon HD 3650 and a 2.5" Solid State Drive (could be as high as 128GB). Be sure to check your credit before ordering though ;)

That should add a good 30-45 minutes of battery life over the current model.

MacBook Pro 15.4" low / high
Core 2 Duo 2.4Ghz / Core 2 Duo 2.6Ghz / BTO Core 2 Duo 2.8Ghz
2GB ram standard
160GB / 200GB / BTO 250GB, 320GB and Solid State Drive up to 128GB
Mobility Radeon HD 3650 128MB / 256MB

MacBook Pro 17" would basically share the same hardware as the high-end 15.4" MacBook Pro.

It would absolutely rock if they included the Mobility Radeon HD 3850 instead. A man can dream of course. This is very unlikely though.

Design changes? Sure but I will leave that up to Apple to decide ;)
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I think you should just forget about getting an ATI GPU in the new MPBs right now. Nvidia is owned by Intel and because of their close working relationship (as demonstrated by the MBAs CPU) it would be highly unlikely for Apple to choose a competitor to Intel for anything.

Just my two cents.
 
Fossie said:
So? The mac mini is similar to the Macbook.
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That's hardly the same. The Mac Mini, Macbook, and iMac's are all consumer machines whereas the MBP is a pro machine. Plus, a statement from Intel late last year stated they were making a 2.6GHz Penryn for Apple portables, so it will either be a 2.5GHz and 2.6Ghz or 2.6GHz and 2.8GHz.
 
BklynKid said:
I think you should just forget about getting an ATI GPU in the new MPBs right now. Nvidia is owned by Intel and because of their close working relationship (as demonstrated by the MBAs CPU) it would be highly unlikely for Apple to choose a competitor to Intel for anything.

Just my two cents.
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How do you come to that conclusion? Especially when the standard graphics card in the Mac Pro is an ATI Radeon and most of the BTO options are Radeons and not nVIDIA's!
 
gazfocus said:
How do you come to that conclusion? Especially when the standard graphics card in the Mac Pro is an ATI Radeon and most of the BTO options are Radeons and not nVIDIA's!
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Oh, really? Did not know that. I retract my earlier post in that case. Sorry guys, Mac noob here.
 
gazfocus said:
That's hardly the same. The Mac Mini, Macbook, and iMac's are all consumer machines whereas the MBP is a pro machine. Plus, a statement from Intel late last year stated they were making a 2.6GHz Penryn for Apple portables, so it will either be a 2.5GHz and 2.6Ghz or 2.6GHz and 2.8GHz.
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http://vnboards.ign.com/pc_generalhardwaresoftware_and_tech_support/b22497/105885674/p1/

Mac Mini: 2.1GHz Penryn
MacBook: 2.1GHz and 2.4GHz Penryn
iMac: 2.5GHz-2.8GHz Penryn and Penryn Extreme

:)
 
BklynKid said:
Oh, really? Did not know that. I retract my earlier post in that case. Sorry guys, Mac noob here.
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No worries, I do see the logic in your statement and I think Apple should get rid of all ATI cards (despite the fact I am an ATI fan for PC systems), I just think there's no point in offering such low end ATI cards.
 
kabunaru said:
http://vnboards.ign.com/pc_generalhardwaresoftware_and_tech_support/b22497/105885674/p1/

Mac Mini: 2.1GHz Penryn
MacBook: 2.1GHz and 2.4GHz Penryn
iMac: 2.5GHz-2.8GHz Penryn and Penryn Extreme

:)
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That's interesting, but not sure what the importance was for the link?

Mac Mini's aren't getting Penryn for some time. (They are not even using SR chipsets yet, and it will be at least 6 months between they use SR chipset and Penryn Processors).

I think the 2.1GHz and 2.4GHz Penryn's are reasonable suggestions for the Macbooks.

Considering the current iMac's start at 2GHz, I can't see a jump straight to 2.5GHz. I think it's likely to be 2.1GHz, 2.5Ghz and a 2.8Ghz.

I think the Macbook Pro's are either going to be 2.4GHz and 2.6Ghz or 2.5GHz and 2.6GHz. Again, I don't see a 400MHz jump, considering it will be 200MHz higher than the current BTO option).

But.... as always, Steve is the only one that knows.
 
BklynKid said:
I think you should just forget about getting an ATI GPU in the new MPBs right now. Nvidia is owned by Intel and because of their close working relationship (as demonstrated by the MBAs CPU) it would be highly unlikely for Apple to choose a competitor to Intel for anything.

Just my two cents.
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NVIDIA is not owned by Intel :)

In fact they don't even have a good relationship as it stands right now.

It is AMD that owns ATI ;)
 
senorfrog97 said:
My money is on tomorrow being 'Macbook Air in stores now' and maybe 10.5.2 being released. No Macbook Pro attention this Tuesday.
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Exactly. No way Apple is going to upstage it's new darling with a MBP update tomorrow. My guess is that they will let MBA do it's thing for a month or so, then release MBP updates.

That being said, I would love it if they released a refreshed MBP next week; just don't think it's going to happen.
I'm using an old Dell C600 1GHz PIII with 1 working hinge. Looking forward to owning my first Mac :)
 
will said:
The current Mac Book Pros are good laptops, but I'd like to see the following improvements (other than Penryn CPU and Multi-touch trackpad, which seem to be a given, or at least I hope so):

  • Better latch (the MacBook already has a better closure mechanism)
  • User serviceable hard disk - it doesn't have to be trivial to remove, just simple and non warranty voiding.
  • Higher resolution option on the 15" screen - would be good to have the option of a 1680x1050 screen in the 15" model.
  • 160GB HD as standard on low end model
  • Boost to graphics card and 256MB graphic memory as standard with option of 512MB
  • Cheaper RAM upgrades - I know Apple usually charge a premium, but the current pricing is ridiculous. I looked on Crucial yesterday and found that 4GB (2x2GB) RAM for MacBook Pro is under £60 and that still leaves you with 2x1GB chips. If you upgrade on apple.com from 2GB to 4GB it costs over £400!
  • More USB ports - 2 on the 15" model is rather stingy
  • LED backlighting on 17" model
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Screw USB ports give me more FW PORTS or eSATA! USB be damned to the average consumer, Apple needs to give me a real professional machine and now.

- Dual HDDs on the 17"
- Dual 2.8 GHz Penryn on the 17"
- Make room in the new design for MORE FW PORTS or eSATA ports!
- At least one user replaceable HDD
- BTO option of SSD
- BTO option of 512 MB GFX card
- keep that plasticy MacBook Keyboard away (I know it ain't happening)
- BTO option for Blu-Ray (just because I want my list to be long)
- Magnetic latch
- Maybe even a 20" MacBook Pro!

Come on Apple... innovate, stop giving us toys and give me HARDWARE!
 
dwman said:
Exactly. No way Apple is going to upstage it's new darling with a MBP update tomorrow. My guess is that they will let MBA do it's thing for a month or so, then release MBP updates.

That being said, I would love it if they released a refreshed MBP next week; just don't think it's going to happen.
I'm using an old Dell C600 1GHz PIII with 1 working hinge. Looking forward to owning my first Mac :)
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I don't know why people keep saying a Macbook Pro update will upstage the Macbook Air. The truth is IT WON'T!

The Macbook Air is for a completely different market to the Macbook Pro's. There will also be a hell of a lot of publicity surrounding the release of the Macbook Air's and just the sheer curiosity of the public will pull people into the Apple Stores to look at the Macbook Air.

The Updated Macbook Pro will be a silent update. It will not be publicised at all, and people going to see the Macbook Air will see the Macbook Air, and won't pay any attention to the seemingly 'same old Macbook Pro'. In addition, if people haven't been looking for a Macbook Pro or waiting for a Macbook Pro update, they won't know it's been updated.

Just my $0.02
 
gazfocus said:
I don't know why people keep saying a Macbook Pro update will upstage the Macbook Air. The truth is IT WON'T!

The Macbook Air is for a completely different market to the Macbook Pro's. There will also be a hell of a lot of publicity surrounding the release of the Macbook Air's and just the sheer curiosity of the public will pull people into the Apple Stores to look at the Macbook Air.

The Updated Macbook Pro will be a silent update. It will not be publicised at all, and people going to see the Macbook Air will see the Macbook Air, and won't pay any attention to the seemingly 'same old Macbook Pro'. In addition, if people haven't been looking for a Macbook Pro or waiting for a Macbook Pro update, they won't know it's been updated.

Just my $0.02
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I agree that they are for different markets. That wasn't my point. I just don't believe that Apple will introduce MBP updates on the same day or even within a month of it's MW '08 flagship product. I think you'll have some folks that look at the MBA when it comes out (sources say tomorrow) and could conceivably look at the $200 price difference and say "Hey, I'll get this over a MBP" "It's cheaper and sexier" While that clearly won't be the majority of consumers (or people on this forum) they are always a few people who want the latest gadget. $200 might be enough to sway some folks.
That's all I'm saying.

And if I'm wrong about the release dates, I'll gladly eat my crow cold :D
 
whew I hope so! TOMM PLZ!

Ill Be Up evry other hour to check =)
I WANT IT SOOO BADLLY & will be getting the top of the line 15.4" for sure!

I know this is off topic... does anyone have a powerbook 12" 1.5ghz for sale?
 
dwman said:
I agree that they are for different markets. That wasn't my point. I just don't believe that Apple will introduce MBP updates on the same day or even within a month of it's MW '08 flagship product. I think you'll have some folks that look at the MBA when it comes out (sources say tomorrow) and could conceivably look at the $200 price difference and say "Hey, I'll get this over a MBP" "It's cheaper and sexier" While that clearly won't be the majority of consumers (or people on this forum) they are always a few people who want the latest gadget. $200 might be enough to sway some folks.
That's all I'm saying.

And if I'm wrong about the release dates, I'll gladly eat my crow cold :D
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But in all fairness, people are going to think that about the price difference whether the MBP is updated or not.

The MBP isn't likely to come down in price because the prices haven't changed during previous product updates.

Anyway, we'll see very shortly whether or not Apple fulfill many of our dreams :)
 
gazfocus said:
The Updated Macbook Pro will be a silent update. It will not be publicised at all, and people going to see the Macbook Air will see the Macbook Air, and won't pay any attention to the seemingly 'same old Macbook Pro'. In addition, if people haven't been looking for a Macbook Pro or waiting for a Macbook Pro update, they won't know it's been updated.
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I don't understand the sense in silently updating a system. Where there's money to be made the best option is to promote, publicise and try and make the most money you can. The best option would be to release the MBA, get the spotlight and hype sales, then update the MBP in a month or two and get the spotlight and sales for the MBP.

People might say the MBP and MBA won't be competing for the same market but I don't believe that's true. In lots of threads I've seen someone say "Well the MacBook Pro's delayed... I might get the MacBook Air instead". It may make no sense to you, but to others what they want is a new machine. I doubt most people who buy pro's really 'need' them. They just want them, and there's no difference between wanting an MBA than a MBP.
 
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