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Early Final Cut Pro X Response Mixed, Updates Coming
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You're right, they're gone again. Ok now's the time to rent before they appear again.
iBug2 - hmmmmmm - they strongly recommend 10.6.8 but that update is still NOT available. Why rush it out even before the recommend update is available. We are not talking about a YEAR of waiting - common sense suggests that another few weeks might have been a prudent move.
Nah, 10.6.8 won't bring any of the missing features. There will be new graphic drivers coming with 10.6.8 that might fix some Open CL issues or whatever. (Totally guessing on this)
To actually add all the key missing features, it'd probably take several iterations if not a full new version. That's not gonna happen in a few weeks.
At least they don't seem to be editing them, the Vista = FCP X has been the third one all day, keep track of that one
Typical Apple Fan Boy
Typical Apple apologist... Do you forget that during the last decade Apple and STEVE presented FCP as a high end application? That during that decade people and companies have invested time and money in Mac Pros, FCP, Xservers? That many other companies have committed and embrased the FCP/QT architecture and have designed lot of hardware and software around it? And now Apple and STEVE say "Ok. We are not doing that anymore. Sorry!". Talk about taking responsibility. Problem is that fanboys will always find reasons why Apple cannot be held accountable. At this moment there are 561 reviews about FCPX at the App Store. Go look how great they are!
Typical Apple apologist... Do you forget that during the last decade Apple and STEVE presented FCP as a high end application? That during that decade people and companies have invested time and money in Mac Pros, FCP, Xservers? That many other companies have committed and embrased the FCP/QT architecture and have designed lot of hardware and software around it? And now Apple and STEVE say "Ok. We are not doing that anymore. Sorry!". Talk about taking responsibility. Problem is that fanboys will always find reasons why Apple cannot be held accountable. At this moment there are 561 reviews about FCPX at the App Store. Go look how great they are!
At least they don't seem to be editing them, the Vista = FCP X has been the third one all day, keep track of that one
They have this new editor .... but I hear it won't edit old reviews ...
Zinnnnngggggg!
Well, let's break it down. Companies who have invested in Apple hardware don't have anything to worry about, as long as Adobe and Avid keep maintaining their OS X ports and so far none of them said anything suggesting otherwise. There always was an NLE working on Macs, and probably there always will be.
About discontinuing products, Apple isn't really the only company who discontinues things. Adobe did it as well, quite painfully for customers even. Probably every major software house did discontinue something in their lifetime.
Then about what Steve says, first of all Steve hasn't said anything about FCP X after the release. Second, they obviously aren't discontinuing FCP, since they just released a brand new version, so your only actual complain is that this new version isn't as high end as the old versions. Which is correct, but the only thing Apple must be held accountable is wrong marketing.
People have been saying that for years every time someone gets upset that Apple does this, or Apple left out that, blah, blah, blah, add nausea.....
Something tells me they don't much care for the few old timers who get upset and abandon ship nearly as much as they do for the millions of brand new customers bringing them in enormous amounts of revenue.
Got any more of that Kool-Aid, I could use some.
I don't know how that post could be misunderstood to be apologetic. I was making fun of the whole situation. If you actually buy a 300$ software without reading anything about it, that's a textbook impulse buy.
People have been saying that for years every time someone gets upset that Apple does this, or Apple left out that, blah, blah, blah, add nausea.....
Something tells me they don't much care for the few old timers who get upset and abandon ship nearly as much as they do for the millions of brand new customers bringing them in enormous amounts of revenue.
Well, they do care about the old timers as long as it's profitable for them, like every other software company out there. If some day, FCP becomes a financial liability then they'd discontinue that for real. But as long as the new releases are coming, it means that it's bringing in money.
People have been saying that for years every time someone gets upset that Apple does this, or Apple left out that, blah, blah, blah, add nausea.....
Something tells me they don't much care for the few old timers who get upset and abandon ship nearly as much as they do for the millions of brand new customers bringing them in enormous amounts of revenue.
Very true but this time people have some pretty good alternatives. I know that FCP never really knocked Avid off their top position and Premier is definitely coming of age. Neither of which have to run on a Mac.
Agreed, I'm just saying, I doubt apple is worried about the sales of FCP in the grand scheme of things, it can't account for a very high margin of revenue.
You're assuming a shop doesn't have hardware. The biggest problem with Media Composer is it doesn't really support 3rd party hardware very well. People running around with thousands of dollars in hardware that works in Final Cut is more likely going to work in Premiere. And Media Composer is only 32-bit only, too (at least on Mac OS X).
Sorry but people always had pretty good alternatives. Avid existed on Mac before Final Cut was born, same with Premiere, although Premiere wasn't worth anything back then. The only great thing about Final Cut was the low price point compared to Avid, that's how Apple lured people in. It wasn't that it was a better product, but it was cheaper and didn't require extra hardware (which is again about the price)
True, I don't really know what percentage of Final Cut shops get 3rd party hardware. About being 32 bit, Avid promised to give 64 bit support in 2011 right? If they keep on their word, it's not such a long wait.
In some cases it will actually be all bang and no buck at all, since many FCP users already bought the Production Premium bundle to get Photoshop and After Effects together at a good price...
Classic internet translation error. I really wanted to buy FCPX and now need the impulse buying Kool-Aid to do it.
Sorry no offense meant, mate.
Nice non-sequitor. I nor anyone here ever claimed we are being forced to buy this.
What? This makes no sense.
And there was no information on the removal of pro features, and there still isn't any indication of why and if those features are ever coming back.
I'd respond further but I have no idea what you're trying to say, here.
What are you talking about? I never bought into any hype. I just expected a pro application to remain pro under the same name, and promised by Apple marketing.
Is that so unreasonable?
Truly insightful.
SPINELESS!!!! Can't handle the backlash so they take away everyone's right to voice their opinions...and frustrations. They are clearly not confident about this release and I'll be curious to hear what kind of damage control they start issuing in the near future. To me this seems like the first step in some serious backtracking rather than sticking to their guns.
Originally Posted by writestuffla
If something is touted as the best thing since sliced bread, and it isn't sliced bread, guess what? It's not.
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If something is touted as the best thing since sliced bread, and it isn't sliced bread, guess what? It's not.
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