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Even if any app is 64-bit optimized there's little to absolutely no advantage in terms of performance. 64-bit right now is nothing but a shot at the future.
 
Impressive. But I'd rather see Apple focus on improving Siri. I ask Siri to set a timer and she spends 10+ seconds going out to Apple's server to figure out what I want to do. Ridiculous.

Seriously? I haven't had any problems where I am. Takes 3 seconds for it to set up. Maybe it's your network. Or could be the way you're wording the command or question. I just say, set timer for XX minutes and it's set.
 
Nothing really, as graphics benchmarks don't really benefit from 64-bit.

Not necessarily true.
Not everything is done in gpu, part is done by cpu. If code uses 64 bit registers instead of 32 bit registers and 64 bit uses same number of ticks as 32 bit registers you could gain another speedup here for stuff like complex animations.

But the speedup wont be another 50% more about 5% in best case for a benchmark.
 
Excellent graphic performance with a tiny screen? Apple really needs bigger screen size phones.

And once Apple releases that larger smartphone that is a pain to pull out of pockets, a pain to use with one hand and generally clunky to use, they will feel compelled to release a smart watch that does basically nothing useful and only has 1 day battery life.

Oh wait...
 
Even if any app is 64-bit optimized there's little to absolutely no advantage in terms of performance. 64-bit right now is nothing but a shot at the future.

Nope as far as known for arm 64 bit it is faster.
It is not like x86 cpus where already mmx and sse existed.

64 bit for arm means adding wider registers and that means optimized applications can calculate up to two times faster (depending on the calculations).

So you won't see a difference in eg loading data from the internet, but you would see a speedup in eg image recognition code wich is highly mathematical
 
Even if any app is 64-bit optimized there's little to absolutely no advantage in terms of performance. 64-bit right now is nothing but a shot at the future.

why wouldnt 64 bit yield any improvements
on my pc games that are x64 run noticeably faster than their x32 counterparts

whast the difference on phones?
 
Impressive. But I'd rather see Apple focus on improving Siri. I ask Siri to set a timer and she spends 10+ seconds going out to Apple's server to figure out what I want to do. Ridiculous.

Do you sound like a woman? Siri is programmed to analyze what a female user "really" wants when she asks Siri a question. :/
 
And once Apple releases that larger smartphone that is a pain to pull out of pockets, a pain to use with one hand and generally clunky to use, they will feel compelled to release a smart watch that does basically nothing useful and only has 1 day battery life.

Oh wait...
Ouch
 
Yeah, that's great and all, but £469 for the 5C?! what the hell are you thinking Apple?!

I think they are gauging reaction to the pricing.

I've heard from a journalist that Apple is planning to be very flexible in the weeks ahead with the 5c unsubsidized pricing.

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Impressive. But I'd rather see Apple focus on improving Siri. I ask Siri to set a timer and she spends 10+ seconds going out to Apple's server to figure out what I want to do. Ridiculous.

Nothing to do with Apple, has to do with your internet connection and upload/download speeds, especially your wifi.
 
Am I the only one who doesn't experience these exaggerations in real life? I swear, I'm starting to think my iPhone and iPads are special or something....it doesn't take Siri nearly as long as others lead me to believe.

Accuracy is what I'd like to see improved.

Same here. I wish for Siri to do more (and it does, over time--Wikipedia in iOS 7 will be nice) but what it does for me it does well, reliably, and quickly. Including recognizing and spelling foreign proper names that aren't in my address book!
 
I think they are gauging reaction to the pricing.

I've heard from a journalist that Apple is planning to be very flexible in the weeks ahead with the 5c unsubsidized pricing.

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Nothing to do with Apple, has to do with your internet connection and upload/download speeds, especially your wifi.

Basic functions like setting the alarm that do not require external data should not require an internet connection. Apple should have basic search capability integrated into iOS.
 
Nope as far as known for arm 64 bit it is faster.
It is not like x86 cpus where already mmx and sse existed.

64 bit for arm means adding wider registers and that means optimized applications can calculate up to two times faster (depending on the calculations).

So you won't see a difference in eg loading data from the internet, but you would see a speedup in eg image recognition code wich is highly mathematical

Thank you for the explanation!
I based my assumption on the following review which claims 64-bit computing advantage only kicks in when there's more than 4GB of RAM.
 
why isnt this chip in the iPad retina first?

I think it's simply the Apple schedule - same thing happened last year, the iPad 3 had an A5, the iPhone 5 hit with the A6, and Apple jumped their normal update cycle a bit and introduced an A6 powered iPad.

Now we pretty much know the iPad 5th gen will have an A7 variant (and I'd expect the retina Mini to get the A6x to create a little differentiator between the two products other than "big vs. small")

:cool:
 
Nothing to do with Apple, has to do with your internet connection and upload/download speeds, especially your wifi.

I think he means that there's no reason Siri should have to connect to Apple in order to do local operations on the device; i.e: timer, calendar, etc.
 
Even if any app is 64-bit optimized there's little to absolutely no advantage in terms of performance. 64-bit right now is nothing but a shot at the future.

Wrong. The A7 CPU has 31 general purpose registers instead of 15, 32 128-bit vector registers instead of 16, and can perform double precision floating-point arithmetic on vectors, which previous CPUs can't do. That will make most code a lot more efficient.
 
Samsung Galaxy Note 3 GFX Bench Egypt 1080p (off-screen) - 68 fps. Bye-bye "fastest 64-bit smartphone" :D
 
help me with my old time brain.
Where does this put it performance wise?
similar to a G3 era computer, a 6800, a pentium 2, etc.. etc...
 
Those results will improve when the next LLVM/Clang set of optimizations are added to pre-existing code-bases.

Yup. ImgTec even says to watch the charts as they update the drivers. The more curious thing is that report of "Apple GPU" for GPU Vendor, as opposed to it reading Imagination Technologies in previous A-series SoCs.

Samsung Galaxy Note 3 GFX Bench Egypt 1080p (off-screen) - 68 fps. Bye-bye "fastest 64-bit smartphone" :D

Note 3 isn't 64 bit.
 
Am I the only one who doesn't experience these exaggerations in real life? I swear, I'm starting to think my iPhone and iPads are special or something....it doesn't take Siri nearly as long as others lead me to believe.

Accuracy is what I'd like to see improved.

It seems worse with iOS 7, I hope it is due to beta servers or something that can't handle the load. But I have seen Siri tell me she can't take requests, after spinning for 15-20 seconds, more in the past few months than I have since her debut.
 
Samsung Galaxy Note 3 GFX Bench Egypt 1080p (off-screen) - 68 fps. Bye-bye "fastest 64-bit smartphone" :D

Wait, a device that big and only gets 12 fps faster than the little iPhone? Must be some pretty terrible engineering in that phablet for it to perform so poorly... :D
 
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