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Early Hands-On Impression and Overview of Retina MacBook Pro
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1. Apps already support high-res displays like Thunderbolt. Interface elements are smaller because they're not scaled up.
2. The Tbolt display is 16:9, so it won't be 2880 x 1800. It could be upgraded to 2880 x 1620, but I don't expect any upgrades in the next few months to a year. There's little point in such a minor bump, and the cost of a doubled-resolution screen would be high - and the DisplayPort portion of the Thunderbolt output supports "only" as high as 3840 × 2160
2. The Tbolt display is 16:9, so it won't be 2880 x 1800. It could be upgraded to 2880 x 1620, but I don't expect any upgrades in the next few months to a year. There's little point in such a minor bump, and the cost of a doubled-resolution screen would be high - and the DisplayPort portion of the Thunderbolt output supports "only" as high as 3840 × 2160
there's not really much of a difference since iTunes doesnt use DRM on tracks anymore. some cds are actually worse, you cant even ripp them to your library unless you crack the copyright protection which is illegal at least here in germany
Did you guys notice, Apple online store does not allow you to upgrade the previous model Macbook Pro memory to 16GB...
It only provides the option for Next-gen Macbook Pro (Retina)
It only provides the option for Next-gen Macbook Pro (Retina)
It's a laptop!
Yeah, a little bit mad to be fair. Can you imagine people doing the same over a super equivalently specced Windows laptop?
I mean it's a friggin' laptop FFS! Get a life.
Yes, I have ordered one. ;-)
The fanboys might as well bow down and worship it like it's their god, that's what that picture looks like to me.
Yeah, a little bit mad to be fair. Can you imagine people doing the same over a super equivalently specced Windows laptop?
I mean it's a friggin' laptop FFS! Get a life.
Yes, I have ordered one. ;-)
They didn't want to write:
The NEW MacBook pro
As for:
"No 13-inch, no buy"
No buy until 2013/14 when one can buy used and/or it's available in the refurb store
Coming from a 2008 MBP a big enough upgrade for me.
Soldered RAM/USB 2.5?
I have a few questions and would love if some boffin could fill me in.
How can the ports be USB 2.0 and 3.0 at the same time? Surely they have to be one or t'other?
I heard someone mention that the SSD and RAM were "soldered". Does this mean you're stuck with stock RAM? As Apple charge you like £160 for 8GB of RAM when you can get the same quality RAM sticks for £30.
I would really like to swap my desktop PC for one of these guys. Would answer all my prayers. But, like a lot of you, my bank account most definitely says NO.
I have a few questions and would love if some boffin could fill me in.
How can the ports be USB 2.0 and 3.0 at the same time? Surely they have to be one or t'other?
I heard someone mention that the SSD and RAM were "soldered". Does this mean you're stuck with stock RAM? As Apple charge you like £160 for 8GB of RAM when you can get the same quality RAM sticks for £30.
I would really like to swap my desktop PC for one of these guys. Would answer all my prayers. But, like a lot of you, my bank account most definitely says NO.
Yes, that's what I found strange..
I've been told earlier in that thread that they would support a 2x8Gb upgrade though.
Any other info on that is welcome.
I understand the compromises that a matte display brings, but until now I have found it preferable to the reflections. I found the reflections so bad on my unibody MacBook that I barely used it, so sold it and will not get a similar display. This is my choice, others have different opinions, but for my use, glossy is bad.
Apparently Apple have removed one of the layers of glass to bring about the improvement. I guess I'll have to see it for myself to decide if it is enough. But I had hoped that Apple would introduce one of the new anti-reflective technologies (not the same as matte at all) that have appeared in the last year, at least as an option.
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USB is backwards compatible. The same way you can use a USB 1.1 device in a USB 2 port (and I assume 1.1 into 3).
Calling them USB 2 and 3 lets customers know that they can use their old devices in the new ports. This isn't possible with many standards, so makes it clear to those who don't follow technology as closely as us.
Then why is it that the MBA goes to show 2 separate USB ports?
Any benefit besides beng able to plug in 2 devices simultaneously? You would think that for a device that prides itself on being slim and no-frills, that gives all the more incentive to do away with as many superflous parts as possible.They will have to wait for one to appear first. It seems the latest 'in' thing in tech now is the ultrabook (and some sort of laptop/tablet hybrid), which basically means they are all too busy chasing after Apple's last year's key offering. I am not sure how readily these companies can change track, abandon their current course of action and switch over.
Even then, it seems the ultrabooks tend to stinge on displays because their margins are already super-thin (a downside of running the same OS as 95% of the rest of the industry). Throw in a high-res screen and I can assure you, it will be no cheaper than a retina MBP.
Dont care much about retina on the laptop, just a decent graphics card in the 13" so I can run diablo 3.
I'm running it on my 2009 13" mbp, so I would imagine the 13" now can run it as well.
Don't buy the ram from the apple store, buy it from OWC or something like it and do it yourself. I'd never buy ram from Apple, and I'd prefer 3rd party SSD as well.
I'm still running a 2008 15" MBP so I'm due for an upgrade soon. Its a $400 difference in Canada between a base 15" MBP $1,829 vs. 15" Retina MBP $2,229. The differences are 512mb graphics vs 1 gb, 4gb ram vs. 8 gb ram and 500gb hd vs 256 flash hd. Seems like the retina might be worth it if you have an older machine. Hmmm. I guess the 13" is also an option but my laptop is my only computer, no desktop or ipad (don't find I have a need for them), so I think I would miss having the 15" of screen real estate.
If my model can still run Mountain Lion I might stick with my 2008 mbp for at least another year. Wait for flash HD's and retina displays to get cheaper.
Opinions?
If my model can still run Mountain Lion I might stick with my 2008 mbp for at least another year. Wait for flash HD's and retina displays to get cheaper.
Opinions?
My heart says yes, my mind says yes, my wallet says GFY. (Student discount will make it a bit more bearable -- thanks, continuing education). That said, with my awesome 2.16ghz MBP CoreDuo (what is this "Core2Duo" you speak of?), 100GB HD and 2GB of RAM (2GB being the max), and a CPU that runs at _exactly_ 100 degrees C any time I do something graphics intensive (without removing the battery), I can suffer the $2.6k upgrade.
FWIW, the $2,199 iteration of the RBP is almost nonsensical. 256GB + 2.3ghz? Ick.
Really, really looking forward to the tear-down of this thing so we can get a better idea of how to upgrade the HD + RAM. Was super-complicated to replace the bottom pan of my MBP, but as long as the disassembly can be done, then that's fine by me.
FWIW, the $2,199 iteration of the RBP is almost nonsensical. 256GB + 2.3ghz? Ick.
Really, really looking forward to the tear-down of this thing so we can get a better idea of how to upgrade the HD + RAM. Was super-complicated to replace the bottom pan of my MBP, but as long as the disassembly can be done, then that's fine by me.
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I think 99.9% of all people would prefer to have two USB ports instead of one (given the trade-off of a device that is weighs 50 g more). You are the first person I have come across that would have preferred one instead of two USB ports on a laptop.Then why is it that the MBA goes to show 2 separate USB ports?
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I have no idea what pinched your nerve. I was just pointing out the chrome makes up only a small part of screen real estate and throwing in the old joke that Word is such overladen with features that if you turned on all its toolbars it fills half of the screen. I was making fun of one aspect of Word, at the expense of Microsoft. How is that judgemental or critical of poster I replied to?
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On a non-retina display every application will just behave like it always did, nothing changes. You can turn on the HiDPI mode for every display separately, just as you could change the resolution on every display separately since the beginning of time. (That is I think where your confusion comes from, not knowing that HiDPI mode can be switch on and off individually for each display.)
Not to bad an update, but not really what I was hoping to see when i really think about it.
The none upgradable RAM and HDD/SSD in the retina machine upsets me a little bit and it will probably keep me from buying that machine even though I really want the Retina resolution display.
I am running on an Early 08 MBP that i have maxed out on RAM and put an SSD into. I was really going to get a new machine 6 months ago but decided to put an SSD in the machine. That was the best thing i ever did and will probably get me another year or two out of this machine.
The new case design, ports and lack of ODD are fine with me, but the fact the pro user can not upgrade anything in the machine after having bought it annoys me to no end.
The none upgradable RAM and HDD/SSD in the retina machine upsets me a little bit and it will probably keep me from buying that machine even though I really want the Retina resolution display.
I am running on an Early 08 MBP that i have maxed out on RAM and put an SSD into. I was really going to get a new machine 6 months ago but decided to put an SSD in the machine. That was the best thing i ever did and will probably get me another year or two out of this machine.
The new case design, ports and lack of ODD are fine with me, but the fact the pro user can not upgrade anything in the machine after having bought it annoys me to no end.
Can someone tell me why we all have the impression that the RAM/SSD is not upgradable, other than guessing from the video of the keynote? Are there any other current Mac products where the RAM is "soldered" in? (I really don't know.)
There's a difference between being inconvenient and being impossible.
There's a difference between being inconvenient and being impossible.
1) RAMs are actually physically soldered on, you can see that from the photo on Apple's website.
2) SSD "fingers" are not mSATA compatible, but some proprietary Apple-only format. So availability of these in the mid-long term is iffy at best.
Hi everyone,
I'm a musician/dj, and in urgent need of a new laptop.
Hesitating between retina and non-retina 15 mbp...
The non-retina one is kinda more appealing to me because of the transitional connectivity, still present cd burner and upgradable storage.
The one thing that's holding me is the only 8Gb of RAM, compared to the double in the new design...
My (maybe dumb) question is : is 8gb the absolute max on this model, or is there a way to make this ram bigger?
Thanks in advance for the info
It'll support 16G, but I don't see the 1600MHz DRAMs on Newegg yet. I think it's a fair bet it'll be there in the coming months.