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Eddy Cue and Craig Federighi Discuss Bloated Software Accusations, Upcoming iTunes Plans
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This is a place for people to come and bitch. I have a 30,000 / 200gb song collection of local song files and maybe a few dozen purchased albums. Everything works fine, no performance issues. My qualms come from UI inconsistencies but that's just me being a designer by trade. If you're viewing in Playlist view the interface is the same it has been since 2007 so even those complaints are mostly unwarranted.
If I must bitch, the iOS app constantly displaying "only showing music on this iPhone" banner is one of the most heavy-handed design decisions I've see. Let me choose to not have cloud music streamed to my phone, don't try and dark-pattern me into it. Also losing the ability to customize your bottom row with genres/ albums/ etc really sucks.
Forstall? The one who was screwing everything up before he left? The one who refused to apologize for the Maps fiasco? The one who was spending more time trying to consolidate power than make iOS a better platform?
Who knows, maybe he'd return a better manager. I think Jobs was better after he returned to Apple.
iOS was better engineered and designed under him. Do you seriously believe Craig and Jony are doing a better job than he did?
Jumping too fast to conclusions. I download the apple music playlists for my trips on the plane / in he car ! 2 apps ?? Must be kidding . The difference should be , as is, almost indistinguishable .
Be nice but I doubt it (break out) unless they totally overhaul the concept. Never forget the pinning in the background is your credit card.
For me the desktop iTunes is fine. The current iOS version however is one of the worst apps I've ever used in my entire life.
Indeed. Apple is living in some spaceship, far away from what's going on down on Earth.
I like that thought however let me add one point to it: if the metrics used to measure are not what the user is measuring then there is either a set of missing metrics or Apple is looking at the wrong set of metrics.
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But for someone like myself (50GB library) iTunes and Apple Music are very poor pieces of software.
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i hear you ... thank god for backups and off line copies.
Mmm if you replace Maps with Music this sounds very much like Cue.
You miss his point. The flexibility is missing.
Can you go into safari/chrome on your mac, or chrome/edge/FF... on your windows machine, or... drop into the the app store and remotely install an app on your iPhone or any/all your iDevices?
It is about ease and flexibility. iTunes isn't.
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It has become more about "attraction" and far less about "usability".
If a single iTunes app wasn't expected to do 8 million things, it wouldn't be nearly so bloated.
I agree with one of the above posts: there should be a few different apps that each handle a specific task.
1. A music app (iTunes)
2. A movie/TV show app (iVideo?)
3. A book/audiobook app (iBooks)
4. An iOS management app that handles what we now think of as syncing through iTunes.
Apple always argues that their stuff is "simple" to use, yet when I try and tell an old person that their iTunes MOVIES are under the icon that looks like a musical note, I can hardly blame them for being confused. To be clear, I do think that Apple's stuff is easier to use than the competition's, but it has some very obvious flaws like this that contradict their message about how they think through every facet of their products.
I agree with one of the above posts: there should be a few different apps that each handle a specific task.
1. A music app (iTunes)
2. A movie/TV show app (iVideo?)
3. A book/audiobook app (iBooks)
4. An iOS management app that handles what we now think of as syncing through iTunes.
Apple always argues that their stuff is "simple" to use, yet when I try and tell an old person that their iTunes MOVIES are under the icon that looks like a musical note, I can hardly blame them for being confused. To be clear, I do think that Apple's stuff is easier to use than the competition's, but it has some very obvious flaws like this that contradict their message about how they think through every facet of their products.
It definitly does. Import a CD to your iTunes library and Apple Music will upload it to your cloud library (similarly to iTunes Match). You can also add an album from Apple Music to the same cloud library by clicking on the "+" icon when viewing that album. Those two albums will be part of the same library, available through the exact same UI, and synchronised across all your devices.
This with a caveat: works only for albums present in Apple Music. AND also correctly uploaded to Apple Music. And possibly completely totally different from anything at all in Apple Music, because a remix CD single will not work, and neither will live recordings unless present at AM already.
Challenge: I dare anyone here to upload Mike Oldfield's Tubular Bells II to an iDevice correctly, i.e. with 8:07 album version instead of 3:56 version of "Sentinel". Apple Music will TELL you it's 8:07, but it won't be. Regardless of whether you upload it from your collection or AM it will be "matched" to incorrect 3:56 single edit (but displayed as 8:07). The one thing I haven't tried is buying the one song from iTunes Store on the iDevice, so maybe that's how one goes around it. But I assure you that you can't upload this CD correctly no matter what you do. I now have "Sentinel" and "Sentinel (album version)" in my Music app, both display 8:07 and play 3:56.
Sad metric.
The number of Safari, Springboard, and OS crashes are down from iOS 8 to iOS 9. The number of niggling glitches, core OS function issues, core app issues, and GUI issues is up from iOS 8 to iOS 9.
Not sure if this is a winner from an OS stability and quality perspective. YMMV.
To be fair, I really like the way iTunes does its organization. However, to blame the software is pointless. It doesn't have a mind of its own. When people tend to blame software, it's because they don't know how to use it to its fullest potential, become frustrated, and just throw the blame on it.
Not sure what you are trying to say... Combine for an integrated experience?
When software on an OS (iTunes or AM) has difficulty handling my long term music library yet several competitors have no issue at all (both store and play) something is ... wrong. Then add in video, series, TV, books, and apps, the issues keep growing. Integration doesn't appear to be working well anymore.
If you cannot simplify the over all (still tied to my credit card), break it into manageable sections and update each "function/module/app".
Just saying ...
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Whenever you design new systems, especially complex ones, you have to take a preemptive strike.
The Music app is bloated, especially if your main purpose is accessing your iPod. I guess these guys collect more data about how we use the app than you can wave a stick at, future iterations will make it better experience.
For the time being though can we at least have the My Music as the first tab. Basics!
The Music app is bloated, especially if your main purpose is accessing your iPod. I guess these guys collect more data about how we use the app than you can wave a stick at, future iterations will make it better experience.
For the time being though can we at least have the My Music as the first tab. Basics!
I don't see an issue with that either IF Apple can pull it off. Personally I feel the one-shot streamlining of iTunes not a manageable process. They may well have to break it up to fix.