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I have been using Apple products since the Lisa, both at work and at home. I need computers for my work. I need a mobile phone. A tablet would be OK for casual browsing at home. Now, how much effort has Apple put into these, say, in comparison to the iWatch (you must be joking) and cars (I dinna even drive anymore).

Yet, Apple chargers high prices and there are issues such as power adaptors for MacBooks having crappy strain relief on cables etc. And, of course there's my personal favourite: the Finder doesn't adjust automatically the widths of the columns of files to show the entire name, nor is their a preference option to enable automatic column width. It's bloody 2016, with computers with multiple processing etc. and they can get the finder to display all the information it should. Finally, my last two MacOS X upgrades nearly bricked my machine.

Sloppy, poorly thought out, and dogmatically arrogant about how great their designs are: that is how I would describe Apple now. They need to get back to their roots: elegant engineering, not just style.
 
I am ok with Apple not doing everything and let other developers build, however it is unacceptable for them to block stuff. For example, the ability to bitstream lossless audio codec is built into the hardware of the Macs and possibly Apple TV 4, however, Apple has decided to not let developers do that. So software like Plex and VLC player cannot play lossless surround audio like DTS-HD Ma or Dolby True HD. On Windows this is possible even on Mac hardware.

When third party developers start advertising features only available for Windows or Linux or Android and not for Mac OS or iOS, you know there is trouble. This is coming from a long time mac user.

Also, soldering RAM to the mother board and not letting people upgrade hard drives or SSD in newer Macs is why I still have a 2007 iMac upgraded with a 500GB SSD and 6GB RAM.
 
Someone is jealous of CF attractiveness...
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Was that what they said or just an old and tired meme?
This is the type of expectation I was referencing.
http://www.cnet.com/uk/news/apple-backtracks-on-most-powerful-map-app-claim/

"Designed by Apple from the ground up, Maps give you turn-by-turn spoken directions, interactive 3D views, and the stunning Flyover feature. All of which may just make this app the most beautiful, powerful mapping service ever."
 
so sad to see Mac Rumors devolve into a dna troll pool of Apple hate. please go buy a Win10 machine and bitch your asses to your hearts desire on those forums. Don't like Apple, don't buy the products. They really won't miss you. Niether will I. scabs

Today, we celebrate the first glorious anniversary of the Information Purification Directives.

We have created, for the first time in all history, a garden of pure ideology—where each worker may bloom, secure from the pests purveying contradictory truths.

Our Unification of Thoughts is more powerful a weapon than any fleet or army on earth. We are one people, with one will, one resolve, one cause.

Our enemies shall talk themselves to death, and we will bury them with their own confusion. We shall prevail!
 
i don't think commenting on someone's (namely a VP and face of Apple) smug character is disrespectful. He presents himself as pompous and in a way I would't like Apple to be seen. Some folks seemed to have benefited from the comment.

I find him awful to listen to on stage, and I get the feeling anything he presents is awful. He, alone, can give me a bias and turns whatever he is touting into a roll-my-eyes "feature". he seems forced. he seems pushy and the example of something that shouldn't come from a guy trying to market products. Maybe an infomercial ...Sham-Wow comes to mind.

You're completely misreading Craig, and completely wrong about him. Craig and Bob Mansfield are the two great engineering leaders at Apple: smart as hell, tirelessly hard-working, and humble but confident. If there is any hope for Apple's future, it's in their hands. Shame Bob got saddled with the utterly retarded car project.
 
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Today, we celebrate the first glorious anniversary of the Information Purification Directives.

We have created, for the first time in all history, a garden of pure ideology—where each worker may bloom, secure from the pests purveying contradictory truths.

Our Unification of Thoughts is more powerful a weapon than any fleet or army on earth. We are one people, with one will, one resolve, one cause.

Our enemies shall talk themselves to death, and we will bury them with their own confusion. We shall prevail!

I don't think people are asking for no criticism. There are people here who do nothing more than hate everything Apple does, though.
 
So, completely different from your template.
Different how? When you set the expectation that it's the most beautiful and powerful mapping service ever, and deliver what you did... yeah, you do yourself no favors. Had Apple introduced Maps as what it really was, an early release beta, there wouldn't have been as much criticism. That's what I said.
 
sure. I bet quite a few are pompous. helps they work at a high level at a very popular company making big bucks with Mega Announcements. I do not know if he really IS pompous, that's why I said he presents himself that way. I also says he "seems pushy" and say how I find him awful to listen to. as to all that, I cannot take what he says to be anything of a high level. so, again, I now saying because of his previous presentations, I find what he says to not hold as much truth.

Maybe he just seems like the Dad from Full House. He's a comedian who had a style that did NOT fit with a young audience yet he was propelled into that roll and as such he displays an odd behavior and joking...could be the writing or it could be his uneasiness. I find CF to be similar.

and Eddy Cue is the guy who loves Hollywood and celebs...I used to find his segments interesting but he seems to be more interested in the flashy people he meets. Tim seems down-to-earth.'

these are my opinions...on a forum...
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and I can see some liking him or his style. I do not as do many I know. they don't care for the lame humor or attempts at a joke, better to wow us with specs/abilities and present what the system can do.

When he comes on stage, the volume is lowered and I tend to just read the transcript. My humor is more witty in nature, perhaps that is why I have a distaste for his cliché style on stage


Fair enough. To each their own I guess. I just happen to think he is one of the most genuine Apple Executives on stage. I will say Eddie Cue annoys me immensley.
 
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More like, the option Apple wouldn't have to buy from their competitors, and could be optimized for all of the Apple platforms (including the Mac). One thing I noticed right away with Apple Maps is that it loaded much faster and sucked up a lot less data than Google Maps. So in that respect it certainly is a customer-driven strategy.

Good point really and I cede that. I'm not attempting to cast moral jdugement in my comment. From a business perspective, and what you said is right. for Apple's seemless integration, having a key feature controlled by someone else isn't a good move. I don't hate the move to Apple Maps. there's nothing wrong with competition (which is good!). I just think the execution of it was bad.
 
To all of those who commented on Federighi's photo- seriously? That's what you took from the article?

As for Maps, I use it exclusively and prefer it to Google Maps. It has never given me bad information and always gets me where I need to go. I have absolutely zero sense of direction. I love it paired to my Apple Watch.

The time that these guys spend in interviews has zero impact on the quality of new software. Glitches aside Apple has made a lot of improvements in iOS that would never have occurred with Forstall.
 
Give them marks for honesty. "Tim never tried to be like Steve". He's undeniably proved that, for sure. :(

It astounds me that a collection of (what I assume) predominantly adult men complain about this.

Steve Jobs died. No one can emulate him. Tim Cook should only be himself.

Cook does not have the same skillets. Who else on the planet could emulate or top what Apple has done? Names please. And if you do have candidates, if they were asked...would they want to take on the job?

Many of you guys wax nostalgic over Apple Computer the $2 billion computer company. Apple is a $230 billion yearly corporation...and if they downsized to a smaller computer company Cook would be fired and nearly everybody would sell their Apple stock.

Too much wishing for unicorns and rainbows in my opinion.
 
I reported the location of National Monument that was missing from Maps. I got a response back saying that the correction was made. I hadn't been at that point and not for some months afterwards, but the correction was made and the (very complex) boundaries of the park are now reported accurately in Maps. They are sifting through mountains of reports so it is going to take time.
I hear you but I never heard back from them yet on ANY issues reported.
 
You've made 3 posts in this thread. 2 chastising someone and 1 disparaging Cue. To be fair, no one here benefited from your posts either. ;) I mean Rampage slags off on Federighi. You slag off on Cue. The discourse of either post really didn't rise to the level of beneficial, did it?

On topic: I think it good that Apple can admit when they make missteps. It's also key that they realize marketing to perfection leads people to expect perfection. I will always believe that Maps could have debuted with much less criticism had Apple set the proper expectation. Didn't quite do that. Instead we got: "This is {insert multiple superlatives here} Apple Maps. It's {insert multiple superlatives here}. We think it's going to be {insert multiple superlatives}.

I also like the honest about not fully realizing the complexity involved with mapping. I'm guilty of doing the same thing sometimes. I see something that looks easy and think, I could do that since it's only x, y, and z. Only to find out later it took a through w plus x, y, and z to actually make it work.


Cue deserves what ever he has coming to him and its fair
To say he is disliked heavily on this site. And it's true. There is no fallacy in my Post what so ever. It's my opinion and I am entitled to it. Just because I called out another forum member, does not mean I chastised him, none what so ever. His post was off base and preposterous, and I set the record straight, which then you retorted in return. And here we are now, having to reply to you, who believes he read the previous posts understands where and why My thoughts were generated from, when in retrospect, you don't.

Secondly, If it encouraged you to reply to my post based of defending Craig, so be it. Call a spade a spade.

And why would someone need to benefit from my post? For what reason? Maybe they agreed with the post(s), it doesn't take another forum member to benefit from my post, does it?

Back on Topic: I to agree with you Apple reportedly admits Mistakes. They have too. If they didn't and hid in the corner, the media, consumers, Shareholders would all out attack them for their short comings. And it takes a successful company to visibly see their downfalls, adapt and overcome. Apple of all companies, understands this through Sculley and Job's era.

One of the reasons I am supporter of Apple, is I see myself as a Perfectionist. So I have a general appreciation for quality hardware and secure software standards. Let's not have any false modesty here, Apple is the leader in various ways, and other companies tend to follow. Even though many may disagree, that's expected.

I cannot explain enough how many Companies mimic Apple on their core standards and policies. And I'm telling you this from a Fortune 500 Company Investor. But why? Because their successful in so many avenues, in their marketing and refinement in their product line.

Wasn't it Cook not long ago who stayed, 'Apple makes mistakes, but we work harder to capitalize on those mistakes." Tim is definitely recognized for his differences between Jobs, but being Jobs appointed Cook, I think Cook is on a whole new level with Apple. Look at what they are in the process of developing, the Apple Car (For what we know). Who would of thought Apple would be in the Research and design for an autonomous vehicle, with Mansfield at the helm? Not 20 years ago.

I know this has been somewhat of a doom and gloom year reportedly for Apple, but I have said it once, and I will say it again, Cook is not concerned or easily shaken. He is to smart for that, and he is all business. Just wait, Apple will most likely reset the market with the Tenth Anniversary iPhone. Apple makes me think of the 'Dark Horse' team in the 4th quarter, least likely to succeed by Consumer reports, but then overcomes and succeeds with confidence.

Apple is my key holder for my Company and laugh when I hear those who mock them pre-Jobs era compared to now. Really? Those individuals are ignorant and need to Get real.

Signing off from a passionate Apple loyalist.
 
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They didn't buy the company for 1 billion dollars. Even Uber invested in Didi, and divested their China operations.

Ahh, you got me. It wasn't a buyout, it was an investment IN Didi from Apple.

My understanding of Didi and UberChina was that UberChina merged with Didi, not that Uber invested in Didi. (Though I believe I read somewhere that Uber now has holdings in Didi as a part of the deal?)

It still seems silly to me though, that they would claim that they are focused as ever while they go around and do things like this, or that they are open to 3rd party developers and apps when developers have (historically) had so many problems with having Apple and the App Store in the mix.
 
"I think it's awesome that Travis and his team have done Uber on our platform. It would not exist without our platform, let's be clear. " -Eddy Cue

Wow, that seems like a bold statement to make. Especially coming from "Mr. Hollywood".

Lol that is a bold statement to make. I would agree they had an integral part in Über's success but aren't there other platforms allowing über to use them?
 
I hear you but I never heard back from them yet on ANY issues reported.

From reading this article it seems they are verifying everything before adding them to Maps so perhaps this is the issue.
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Good point really and I cede that. I'm not attempting to cast moral jdugement in my comment. From a business perspective, and what you said is right. for Apple's seemless integration, having a key feature controlled by someone else isn't a good move. I don't hate the move to Apple Maps. there's nothing wrong with competition (which is good!). I just think the execution of it was bad.

Well, they've acknowledged that, and underestimating the difficultly. Nobody should expect a company to say and do more. Most of them don't fix mistakes let alone admit to them.
 
I don't think people are asking for no criticism. There are people here who do nothing more than hate everything Apple does, though.

When someone says, "Don't like Apple, don't buy the products" ... that's like saying "Love it or leave it!"

Nothing progresses in such an atmosphere.

I think there are many people here who love Apple MORE than people like him, because they WANT Apple to be better, for its execs to stop removing popular features, and for Apple to return to making the kinds of superior products which attracted those posters to Apple in the first place.
 
Cue deserves what ever he has coming to him and its fair
To say he is disliked heavily on this site. And it's true. There is no fallacy in my Post what so ever. It's my opinion and I am entitled to it. Just because I called out another forum member, does not mean I chastised him, none what so ever. His post was off base and preposterous, and I set the record straight, which then you retorted in return. And here we are now, having to reply to you, who believes he read the previous posts understands where and why My thoughts were generated from, when in retrospect, you don't.

Secondly, If it encouraged you to reply to my post based of defending Craig, so be it. Call a spade a spade.

And why would someone need to benefit from my post? For what reason? Maybe they agreed with the post(s), it doesn't take another forum member to benefit from my post, does it?

Back on Topic: I to agree with you Apple reportedly admits Mistakes. They have too. If they didn't and hid in the corner, the media, consumers, Shareholders would all out attack them for their short comings. And it takes a successful company to visibly see their downfalls, adapt and overcome. Apple of all companies, understands this through Sculley and Job's era.

One of the reasons I am supporter of Apple, is I see myself as a Perfectionist. So I have a general appreciation for quality hardware and secure software standards. Let's not have any false modesty here, Apple is the leader in various ways, and other companies tend to follow. Even though many may disagree, that's expected.

I cannot explain enough how many Companies mimic Apple on their core standards and policies. And I'm telling you this from a Fortune 500 Company Investor. But why? Because their successful in so many avenues, in their marketing and refinement in their product line.

Wasn't it Cook not long ago who stayed, 'Apple makes mistakes, but we work harder to capitalize on those mistakes." Tim is definitely recognized for his differences between Jobs, but being Jobs appointed Cook, I think Cook is on a whole new level with Apple. Look at what they are in the process of developing, the Apple Car (For what we know). Who would of thought Apple would be in the Research and design for an autonomous vehicle, with Mansfield at the helm? Not 20 years ago.

I know this has been somewhat of a doom and gloom year reportedly for Apple, but I have said it once, and I will say it again, Cook is not concerned or easily shaken. He is to smart for that, and he is all business. Just wait, Apple will most likely reset the market with the Tenth Anniversary iPhone. Apple makes me think of the 'Dark Horse' team in the 4th quarter, least likely to succeed by Consumer reports, but then overcomes and succeeds with confidence.

Apple is my key holder for my Company and laugh when I hear those who mock them pre-Jobs era compared to now. Really? Those individuals are ignorant and need to Get real.

Signing off from a passionate Apple loyalist.

Wow - I am not sure where to begin on this. The short version is that we need to be beyond generalities. You say Cook is not concerned or easily shaken. Perhaps that is because he is arrogant and clueless. He has overseen one of, if not the biggest loss of shareholder value in history. He has wasted $130,000,000,000 on useless buybacks in a desperate move to prop up stock price. Read through the many, many posts that specifically call out shortfalls and failures. They talk the talk about learning from mistakes but there is no evidence that they walk that talk.
 
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Wow - I am not sure where to begin on this. The short version is that we need to be beyond generalities. You say Cook is not concerned or easily shaken. Perhaps that is because he is arrogant and clueless. He has overseen one of, if not the biggest loss of shareholder value in history. He has wasted $130,000,000,000 on useless buybacks in a desperate move to prop up stock price. Read through the many, many posts that specifically call out shortfalls and failures. They talk the talk about learning from mistakes but there is no evidence that they walk that talk.

How is he arrogant? Clueless? How so? Have you ever met Cook? Just curious.
 
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Why do you say this, because of that one mobile me anecdote? You do realize that most of the executive leadership team at Apple was put in place (and groomed) by Steve.
Just the personality difference. Tim wouldn't "scare" me as much for perfection like Jobs would.
 
How is he arrogant? Clueless? How so? Have you ever met Cook? Just curious.

An example of his arrogance was his conduct at a shareholder meeting a year or so ago when a shareholder expressed concern about so much of the social emphasis (I think that was the topic) at Apple that was not generating revenue or margin. Cook arrogantly put that shareholder down and told him he might need to make his investments elsewhere. That is arrogance. As to the clueless - read the many posts about all the shortfalls of Apple under Cook - a number of which I listed. I would not want to meet Timmy.
 
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An example of his arrogance was his conduct at a shareholder meeting a year or so ago when a shareholder expressed concern about so much of the social emphasis (I think that was the topic) at Apple that was not generating revenue or margin. Cook arrogantly put that shareholder down and told him he might need to make his investments elsewhere. That is arrogance. As to the clueless - read the many posts about all the shortfalls of Apple under Cook - a number of which I listed. I would not want to meet Timmy.

I wasn't aware this happened. Is their source or article on your statement to confirm? Or is this hear say? If Cook did do as you say, then shame on him. I would think he would have more Cander than that.
 
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