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I guess Eddy is not not taking into account upgraded products like the Mac Pro, or Mac Mini... here.

Still,, probably not slowed, but no question i like to see him answer why there are still these massive delays then. Its easy to concentrate on "just Apple" if the suppliers have issues....

Btw: If MR keeps showing the same photo all the time, i'll eventually believe Eddy doens't age ever.
 
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Just over a decade after the iPhone launched, and six years after Steve Jobs passed, some critics believe that Apple's pace of innovation has slowed. Unsurprisingly, Apple's services chief Eddy Cue doesn't share that opinion.

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"I disagree vehemently with that and I think we've been incredibly innovative," said Cue, in a recent interview with Indian publication Livemint.

Cue pointed out that both the iPad and Apple Watch launched after the iPhone, while noting that revolutionary products take time. He also believes that Apple's work on Mac, macOS, and iOS has led the market.The rest of the interview was primarily focused on Apple's roadmap for India, which Cue described as a "very long-term opportunity."

Cue said Apple is focused on three areas in India, including the App Store, Apple Maps, and a bundle of other services such as iCloud and Apple Music. Of note, he said Apple is "working on" bringing Apple Pay to India.Cue said Apple doesn't have an exact launch date to announce for Apple Pay in India at this point since it's not "a 100 percent" yet.

In the full-length interview, Cue also reflects upon the leadership styles of past and present Apple CEOs Tim Cook and Steve Jobs, and on Apple's increasing efforts to produce original content.

Article Link: Eddy Cue Says He 'Disagrees Vehemently' With Those Who Believe Apple's Pace of Innovation Has Slowed
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Just over a decade after the iPhone launched, and six years after Steve Jobs passed, some critics believe that Apple's pace of innovation has slowed. Unsurprisingly, Apple's services chief Eddy Cue doesn't share that opinion.

eddy-cue.jpeg

"I disagree vehemently with that and I think we've been incredibly innovative," said Cue, in a recent interview with Indian publication Livemint.

Cue pointed out that both the iPad and Apple Watch launched after the iPhone, while noting that revolutionary products take time. He also believes that Apple's work on Mac, macOS, and iOS has led the market.The rest of the interview was primarily focused on Apple's roadmap for India, which Cue described as a "very long-term opportunity."

Cue said Apple is focused on three areas in India, including the App Store, Apple Maps, and a bundle of other services such as iCloud and Apple Music. Of note, he said Apple is "working on" bringing Apple Pay to India.Cue said Apple doesn't have an exact launch date to announce for Apple Pay in India at this point since it's not "a 100 percent" yet.

In the full-length interview, Cue also reflects upon the leadership styles of past and present Apple CEOs Tim Cook and Steve Jobs, and on Apple's increasing efforts to produce original content.

Article Link: Eddy Cue Says He 'Disagrees Vehemently' With Those Who Believe Apple's Pace of Innovation Has Slowed
[doublepost=1508191646][/doublepost]Eddie Cue should have been fired when Jobs passed away. He couldn't function in the Apple vain when Jobs was no longer around. Tell me what he had done since Jobs died! Nothing! Tim Cook has started to emasculate him in his job portfolio.

All he knows is to shout down Rihanna at the Warrior games showing how important he really is. For me he is dragging Apple down. Time for Tim Cook to cut him adrift!
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I guess Eddy is not not taking into account upgraded products like the Mac Pro, or Mac Mini... here.

Still,, probably not slowed, but no question i like to see him answer why there are still these massive delays then. Its easy to concentrate on "just Apple" if the suppliers have issues....

Btw: If MR keeps showing the same photo all the time, i'll eventually believe Eddy doens't age ever.
Eddie Cue should have been fired when Jobs passed away. He couldn't function in the Apple vain when Jobs was no longer around. Tell me what he had done since Jobs died! Nothing! Tim Cook has started to emasculate him in his job portfolio.

All he knows is to shout down Rihanna at the Warrior games showing how important he really is. For me he is dragging Apple down. Time for Tim Cook to cut him adrift!
 
Dont get me wrong I like apple products but Apple went from a tech company to a fashion company that makes gold watches for rich guys. Says a lot about their current millionaire board members and exec's.
 
Likely to be truly innovative: Future Apple Watch sensor technology, technology behind FaceID (in the future this will find other utility besides unlocking your phone)

Mediocre: TouchBar, Butterfly keyboard, the return of dongles across the line (Mac, iPhone), spinning drives in 2017 iMacs

Shooting themselves in the foot: struggling to release full new versions of iOS, WatchOS, TvOS and MacOS every year, raising prices to absurd levels in the name of maintaining profit levels

I suspect Apple are trying to truly innovate whilst caring too much about their stock price/share holders.
 
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If many on here are so negative about Apple, Apple is no longer innovative, why do you keep buying Apple products? The one that gets me, Mac hardware complaint. For 99% of computer users, any hardware in the last five years is more then powerful enough. What separates the Mac from other hardware, Apple software and environment.
I won't say Apple's product lines are stagnating, but for me, recent hardware updates do not fit my use case. I'm fairly accurate regarding whether I'll find a new feature useful or not, so the Touch Bar is an "innovation" that represents a step back. That eliminated me from the market for a newer 15" quad-core i7 MBP. And I still prefer commonly used ports over USB-C to utilize my current peripherals. Anyway, the bottom line is that I recently purchased a 2015 MBP because the recent innovations are unsuitable (and overpriced to boot). My last MBP purchase in mid 2012 was a late 2011 model because it was the last one that ran Snow Leopard. It seems my next machine will be a hackintosh or a linux box.
 
All the innovative ideas were Steve Jobs. He left them with plenty to get on with but since he died there's not been a single stand-alone, Jobs free innovation.
 
Tell me, Eddy, what did you do exactly to gain compensation of $ 22 million in 2016? All for people making money for real accomplishments.
 
All the innovative ideas were Steve Jobs. He left them with plenty to get on with but since he died there's not been a single stand-alone, Jobs free innovation.
Apple is just another corporate entity there to maximize profits for their shareholders. The competitive advantage Apple had with the stellar, singular focused Steve is sadly gone and now means that Apple is run by committee like every other box shifter OEM. The Apple brand is being diluted and being DELL-ified.
 
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Why the violence, because you do not agree?

if you’re not satisfied by Eddy and company, you could move to other choices. Or get an ice cream perhaps.

Did I miss something?! Where did I mention I am not satisfied with Eddy and company?
I was referring to his face which I didn't realise had anything to do with my opinion on the company :rolleyes:
 
Well I'm sure the iPad was in development before SJ passed.

But it's not the innovation I question.

It's the increase in the amount of what I believe to be inefficient software releases.
Seems to have been some larger bugs/issues with the last few OSs (both desktop and iOS).

I've been more disappointed with that tbh.

The iPad was the original project

It was then put on ice in favour of the iPhone

Jobs presented the first series of iPad
 
Then you're not comprehending my comment. Eddie says Apple is constantly innovating while Tim Cook is saying they are rarely first to do anything, thus not innovative, just reiterative.

There were fingerprint readers on phones before the iPhone. There was facial recognition systems before the iPhone, there was multi-touch displays before the iPhone there was phones with dual speakers before the iPhone. There were tablet computers before the iPad there was smart watches before the Apple Watch.

What Apple does isn't innovate they iterate. There is nothing wrong with that. Eddie is just deluded. He should talk to Tim who last week made it clear Apple doesn't innovate, they take other peoples ideas and make them simpler to use.

You’re trying to draw a correlation between the two statements when there isn’t one.
 
I think the Samsung gear is a nicer watch.

Me too. That's why I got a Gear S3 Frontier. It looks really nice, and has never had any support. It was built to be able to run apps on it's own but all three dozen apps still require your phone be connected via bluetooth. What is the point of a monthly wireless connection if I still have to be within 33 feet of my phone? There are some nice watch faces, at really odd price points, and there have been a few software updates, but it still feels half baked. It convinced me that I don't really need an LTE watch. So there is that, but it also makes me question if I should get an apple watch when I pick up the new X.
 
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The iPad was the original project

It was then put on ice in favour of the iPhone

Jobs presented the first series of iPad

So. iPad -> iPhone -> apple watch? That was the true order? Am I the only one that thinks that making the screen smaller isn't really an innovation. Don't get me wrong, it's cool, and I am sure it was really hard to do. The devices serve slightly different functions because of their form factor, but it is more of an tech evolution than innovation.
 
What would you expect him to say?

"Yeah, you're right. We have saturated markets, out of fresh ideas for the phone, the TV hasn't panned out, self-driving cars is a really, really hard problem..."

?
 
To me, Eddy Cue is the weakest link in this company and I don't understand why he is still here.
The weakest link is Tim Cook. Honestly, the strongest employee they had after Jobs passed away was Scott Forstall. I truly believe if he was never canned Apple would be far more innovative today. With Steve gone, Scott filled the hole for the Steve personality that Apple needed. With Scott gone there's no one there to push innovation like Steve did.
 
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How about being the first to have 64bit processors? You sound like a android fanboy. iPhones are the fastest mobil phones there are, you think that was magic? lol. That's a lot of hard work.

Eddy, is that you?

I'm from far being an android fan girl. For the past 3 years all my devices have been Apple products. Do I like android phones? Yes. Do I like apple phones? Yes.

I said that iphones are of high quality and reliable. But you didn't read that. You just read my critizism of apple.

Snappy and quality product doesn't equal innovation. Nokia 3310 has battery life for days and is durable. Doesn't mean it's innovative.
 
Why would I pay $1,000 for face recognition and some slightly bumped specs?

Seriously, where's the REAL innovation?

Gosh... the iPhone X is the first major iPhone upgrade since the 6-series in 2014... and you're complaining about it?

Smartphones seem to be mature now.

What exactly are you looking for? :p
 
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I think it depends on what you mean by "innovation."

Apple has certainly been refining products, but I don't think that counts as "innovation." For example, I don't think the switch from the 2015 to the 2016 MacBook Pro form factor was "innovative," rather, I'd say it was a refinement of the prior form factor. I would say that the touchbar is innovative, even if I find it to be useless at best and an active impediment to my work at worst.

Another problem is that some of Apple's "innovation" has failed, vidé, the cylindrical Mac Pro.

So I think it fair to say that Apple's "innovation" has indeed slowed down. Between the death of the visionary and the sheer size of the organization, coupled with the consolidation mindset of the CEO, it was inevitable, and, most likely, irreversible.
 
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