Welp I guess I’ll never be seeing Apple Music in my Tesla. Spotify forever it is
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Elon Musk: Apple's App Store Fees Are a 'De Facto Global Tax on the Internet'
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Of course it's in my interest. I only want one store for public software.
I also want Apple to censor the apps, even more than they do today. There are so many bad applications out there.
Elon knows how to trigger people attention and press people buttons when ever he wants and how he wants. In my opinion very lame to use this dirty tricks to succeed or achieve a goal. To the the well informed this guy is just a puppet, to the ignorant this guy is totally a mystery, and mysteries are what traps peoples minds.
Hey guess what? Bitcoin was at 64k around the same time and it also 'tanked' to 29k. Ethereum tanked. Cardano tanked, the entire crypto tanked, but I guess the facts don't matter to you.
That's the problem when you have people who don't invest or don't understand crypto, they look at everything from top to bottom instead of bottom to top. Like I said, as of today Doge is still up 2000 percent since the start of the year.
Do your research.
It's a de jure commission.
It isn't a de facto tax since you can easily avoid Apple's commission by not charging for your apps or not be on the App Store. Or even be on other platforms like the web.
If Apple would let you charge people directly (and not be required to use the App Store payment methods), then we can talk.
That's a lot of what people are arguing for (and they are right)
If Apple wanted to be on the level on this, they'd have a developer payment scheme for access to iOS and development tools that would scale and have tiers ....and then also have payments for Apps and services within Apps be totally broken out. They could even compete using their own built in Apple Pay based methods.
That would be the correct way to structure this.
Apple purposesly doesn't because they are printing money they have no right to with the blanket percentages
You have to make sure you don't have AVOID TOLLS and HIGHWAYS checked. Then you'll be driving on those free-flowing freeways.
Epic wants Apple to allow them to run their own store on Apple’s system, so they can skip paying Apple and collect all the profit themselves. Epic is suggesting that Apple and their customer base that they worked hard to develop should be free to everyone to access like a public service, with Apple getting nothing from any resellers…because why exactly?
I’m sorry, but that’s just a delusional view.
Apple allows Amazon to sell products through their app, because it was a good business decision to do so given the wide variety of products they offer that fall far outside of the tech sphere. It’s not legally bound to do so. And Epic isn’t Amazon, they’re a game developer, much like the myriad of other game developers Apple has on the App Store. Apple doesn’t need Epic - which is clear given their most recent quarterly earnings. Epic may be fine giving up access to Apple customers, but my guess is that isn’t really the case.
Does Amazon allow Walmart.com to offer their products to Amazon customers on Amazon.com or the Amazon app, without paying Amazon? Some retailer websites do allow other company’s products to be sold on their sites, but these other companies are paying for that ability - it’s not free.
And yes, brick and mortar retail and online retail are related, sometimes they’re intertwined and other times the relationship is antagonistic, but the basic premise for how products are marked up and sold are the same.
They are arguing a view that nobody expects them to win.
It's an attempt to move the needle and incite compromise.
Btw: yes, I do think Epic should collect "all the profit themselves" from their own sales.
They should also have to pay to access iOS customers.
The fee for that should not be 30% of all revenue.
That's... Insane.
These are digital products.
Apple's costs do not scale the same way they would in B&M operations
As an aside...
Do you think Apple should be entitled to 30% of all Amazon.com sales that are through the iOS App?
If not, how would you structure that for the Amazon.com iOS App and the transactions that happen within it?
I have owned all sorts of Apple devices for the past 30 years and really appreciate the innovation brought forward by Steve Jobs in the 90's and early 2000s. Today Musk, while certainly eccentric, runs organizations that out-innovate anything Apple does by 100. While Cook and Apple are busy creating their own version of already established technology, Musk is establishing new technology.
I'm really not a Musk fan personally, but your point here is very accurate.
Apple seems to just keep rearranging the chairs on the deck vs doing much on the innovation front of late.
Wow ... still using a decades plus old catch phrase "tax" it's not a tax there is no remittance back to the state/federal governments. please come up with something more mature on this.
Walled gardens do NOT decrease competition:
- App Store barely started with 300 apps initially.
- EVERY year its grown exponentially.
> Games on iOS have surpasssed the total library of PS4, XBox, Nintendo's DS/Switch and Cube combined!
> Apps, majority of the good ones ALL compete for similar functionality or services not duplicated by Apple's core apps.
> users purchase or download or both of apps they want that are available. Crappy and copy cat apps fall to the app graveyard.
iOS developers - independent ones - tend to make a LOT more for their hard work on iOS because iOS users earn more, and we value quality and hard work vs half stepping.
So the Apple App Store is VERY competitive for sales and ratings. Android seems to have the majority of their users cater to FREE or FREEMIUM apps. Not much quality is needed just mindshare.
You're conflating growth with actual competition
I don’t like Elon’s statement either …. But he is totally fine with Tesla owners charging their cars on anyone’s charger .. there are actually many adapters available. It happens to many Tesla owners as well as superchargers are not available in all places.
Yeah, I hate taking my iPhone in to have a Apple Genius connect to my wifi. /s
There is an equivalent to almost everything on that list you can do on an iPhone.
When there is only one way that way tends to be successful. It is not necessarily a measure of success but demand.
Yes he really is the voice of sanity in these troubled times...oh wait....
Let's be honest, Steve Jobs was hardly a voice of sanity. This isn't about personalities, it's about innovation. It takes a different kind of person to innovate for the masses. It's not an excuse for their behavior just an acknowledgment of their contribution to industry and humankind.