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Elon fanboys are so weird. His Twitter account is a shining example of why Apple is wise to avoid him like the plague.

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Because Elon Musk failed to realize Apple doesn’t buy big companies. 99.9% of the time it is a small company unless it’s something like Beats
 
Not sure why you must resort to personal attacks. Elon is such a polarizing figure, but there are plenty of facts or quantitative statements you could provide to make your point instead.
I hope you realize attacking Elon Musk is not a personal attack. It's only considered a personal attack on this forum when a member is a attacked. Attacking Elon Musk is attacking Tesla, just as attacking Tim Cook (which people love to do here) is attacking Apple. Each person is a company.
 
Even if it were true, I’d be curious to hear Tim’s response to this, [which he won’t reply]. Nonetheless, nobody could’ve predicted what Tesla would’ve been in its early years, and for Apple to not invest in Tesla was a calculated decision not knowing what to expect from the outcome with unknown potential risk factors. That’s not irrational to not buy Tesla, not when Apple probably had plans of their own anyways prior to Tesla that Elon wasn’t aware of at the time.

There’s two sides to every story here.
 
I doubt even Musk knows the real reason behind it !

Ask yourself, why has Apple, under Tim Cook, made ZERO major acquisitions ?

Very simply, because Cook fears he would lose his job to a stronger personality with rare, true Market Insight !

And he is right to have that fear !

Tim's main skill is Operations Efficiency.

Regardless, AAPL should have at least Partnered with Tesla & taken a 20% OR so stake in the company, at that time !
I don't think Tim "fears he would lose his job" at this point, because Tim no longer NEEDS his job! You could argue that by now Apple needs him far more than vice-versa. Tim could very happily and very wealthily retire at any time now. The fact that he is planning to stay on for now is because he loves the job, he loves Apple, the people etc. It's been his life. He said as much in an interview, and I believe it, because quite frankly he is old enough and has enough money now that there is no other reason than that to stay on. I suppose you could argue that this incident was a few years ago, but at least in terms of today, right now, Tim is clearly at the job because he believes in the company and wants Apple to have a great legacy. His judgements might be right or wrong, but I don't think, especially by now, that they come from fear. That said, I do think he would have been well-advised to either buy Tesla or, as you suggest, buy a stake in it, assuming either was an option. So we are in agreement there. But so it goes! There's plenty of room for both of them to succeed in the EV space, it doesn't have to be a one or the other equation.
 
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Tim Cook's hesitancy to make large acquisitions and instead focus on mainly organic growth is admirable. However, in hindsight, the analyst calls for Apple to purchase Netflix and Tesla many years ago seem like they would have been a good idea.

Apple has done just fine without making these purchases, but has been unable to grow revenue the past 4-5 years until the pandemic spurred growth. It would be interesting to know how a Netflix and Tesla purchase years ago would have changed Apple's course.

Disclaimer: Apple and Tesla are some of the largest portions of my portfolio.

It may well have been a disaster.

Apple doesn’t do large-scale acquisitions for the sake of generating revenue. They look for technology that augments their existing product plans.

Also, larger acquisitions are not without problems of their own. There is the risk that the culture of these companies do not gel well with how Apple works, in which case you have a conflict. It’s usually better to acquire a smaller company which has the tech they want, and assimilate it Borg-style into the company.

Apple made the right call in not acquiring netflix or Tesla.
 
Oh damn! Apple should really listen to you since you know what's best for them. With your help they probably might end up with a 2 trillion dollar valuation, but what do they know? 😂
Well hindsight is 20/20, I may not have had the same opinion a few years ago but Apple may agree with me now.
 
Sorry what? How do you know how Model S Plaid will perform with sustained power when it's not even out yet?

Model S Plaid is going to use Tesla's new structural battery system/battery cells which judging from the early laps at Laguna Seca, it can handle sustained power just fine.
Great. So they are catching up.
 
Tesla has been climbing the charts in China, not sure what you're talking about.


Not as hilarious as:



Going to be a sad sight for you when you see people driving these everywhere (or rather, the car is driving itself everywhere).
Repeating an argument doesn’t make it better.
 
Tim Cook probably didn’t want to bring a child into the fold. Musk is a visionary, but he speaks before he thinks far too often and is prone to temper tantrums, wouldn’t complement Apple’s culture or public image well.
I find it amusing that most of the time Musk sounds less mature than his girlfriend.
 
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Tim Cook probably didn’t want to bring a child into the fold. Musk is a visionary, but he speaks before he thinks far too often and is prone to temper tantrums

What you said actually isn’t entirely accurate, remember, the article stated that the negotiations/meeting was in ‘Tesla’s dark days’, meaning that Elon really wasn’t as boisterous as he is now, and certainly didn’t have the recognition because Tesla wasn’t really a brand at that time. So your ‘child comment’, really isn’t relevant to the discussion, given no one really knew anything about Elon at that time, aside from his other business ventures.

I’m not defending Musk, more like pointing out there’s two different time periods that you’re referring to.
 
And in 1997 Apple needed money and Microsoft settled a dispute for a meezely $150 million. Apple has become a 2 trillion dollar valuation company and that $150 ISN'T the reason why.

Irrelevant. Money isn't the issue. Engineering team is.

Apple's been building products in the USA.

Not Apple themselves, no. They have partners to manufacture the product.
And things like Mac Pro (manufactured by Flextronics) aren't high volume products. Apple Car will be a high volume product.

And in 2006 Apple needed Intel to move their Macs to the next level in performance. In 2020 Apple has their own Mac processors that are the fastest on the market in CPU and GPU performance for it's current class of computers, not to mention the longest battery life of any computer in their class.

Oh if Apple can design a small chip (after relying on IBM and Intel for over 20 years), they can totally design a 5000 lb car complete with a custom battery pack and drive train right from the beginning, right?

No.

Apple's mapping system has evolved quite vastly without anyone's help.

Yet, Waze still has more accurate traffic data than Apple Maps. Having live cars on the road can easily transmit traffic data through vision with 0 effort, drastically improving the accuracy over Waze. Among other things they can do too.

It makes sense to you.

And to many.
 
Tim Cook is great at supply chain logistics (not this year), but also not that great when it comes to thinking outside the box
"Great" at supply chain logistics to a supply chain logistics person does not mean "having enough inventory and deliverying it quickly". It's literally the opposite to them. Their goal is to have as little inventory as possible, and to hell with how long the customer has to wait. He's been doing a masterful job of that for years.
 
GOOD. Apple is in the business of selling products, not stock.

Apple should stay away from a garbage company like Tesla, or anything Elon Musk.

Remember, nothing Elon Musk done has ever advanced the state-of-the-art.
 
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And tesla is absolutely whipping every other vehicle manufacture at the moment, when it comes to experience, which is what apples always been about.
It’s finally exciting to see someone beating apple at their own game for once
How is Tesla beating apple at their own game when Apple haven’t even entered the car manufacturing industry yet. The fact you even mention this shows how much sway Apple have when people are already talking about them in an industry where they haven’t even released a product.
 
What you said actually isn’t entirely accurate, remember, the article stated that the negotiations/meeting was in ‘Tesla’s dark days’, meaning that Elon really wasn’t as boisterous as he is now, and certainly didn’t have the recognition because Tesla wasn’t really a brand at that time. So your ‘child comment’, really isn’t relevant to the discussion, given no one really knew anything about Elon at that time, aside from his other business ventures.

I’m not defending Musk, more like pointing out there’s two different time periods that you’re referring to.
I disagree. It was supposedly the dark days of Model 3 project. At that time, Elon Musk’s childish behaviour was auite well known, although it was not yet quite as off the rails as it is now. Tim Cook would be quite well informed about who Elon Musk was at that point.
 
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