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Tim Cook's hesitancy to make large acquisitions and instead focus on mainly organic growth is admirable. However, in hindsight, the analyst calls for Apple to purchase Netflix and Tesla many years ago seem like they would have been a good idea.

Apple has done just fine without making these purchases, but has been unable to grow revenue the past 4-5 years until the pandemic spurred growth. It would be interesting to know how a Netflix and Tesla purchase years ago would have changed Apple's course.

Disclaimer: Apple and Tesla are some of the largest portions of my portfolio.
Netflix has a few good shows but the majority is just fodder. Why would Apple buy them when they can create premium content themselves rather than take on someone’s second rate back catalogue of content. They were absolutely correct not to buy Netflix.
 
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Tim Cook would be quite well informed about who Elon Musk was at that point.
Sure, they obviously were in the same segment/sector, so he would be familiar with his line of work. But that member made some comments that weren’t accurate up-to-date from Musk not nearly having the recognition he did years ago compared today.

[The other tangent is, and I agree with what others have said, Apple doesn’t do large acquisitions, they invest in smaller business companies that have start ups, (Like Luxeview with MicroLED for example being a Target acquisition)]
 
Tesla just riding on the back of the pioneering engineering work done by GM on its EV1 as well as Toyota's engineering work.

And reusable rockets? Look at the DC-X from 25 years ago, or the Space Shuttle for actual sci-fi tech development.

We need people to get over Elon Musk, and get on board real tech development.
 
Tim’s next interview should be interesting.
Also worth considering is that if Musk went to Apple for a lifeline, odds are he likely also reached out to other tech titans with the same proposal.
 
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Great. So they are catching up.

You're talking as if Tesla is completely behind Porche in every way except range.

- Sustained power isn't something every Porche/Tesla driver needs anyways.
- Porche doesn't have the infrastructure to support most road trips.
- They don't have the engineering capability to push "big" software updates wirelessly (only small updates are delivered over the air). https://insideevs.com/news/439492/porsche-taycan-dealer-software-updates-unlike-tesla/
- And Porche doesn't have the technical capability for autonomous driving.
 
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Citing sources is hardly repeating. It's something one does in a proper conversation. It's also something you should try doing once in a while instead of guessing.
I’m not spending my time googling for you. If I find three links with articles of Tesla’s catching on fire (which do exist), does that make you back down? No. Throwing out examples of anecdotal “evidence” that some brand is good or bad proves only that you actually don’t have a clue.

I’m making a prediction of the future. That is, by definition, guessing. The difference is I’m not pretending it is fact.
 
Anyone thought that Apple wouldn’t deal with Musk because he wouldn’t be able to keep his mouth shut, regardless of any non-disclosure agreement?
 
"Great" at supply chain logistics to a supply chain logistics person does not mean "having enough inventory and deliverying it quickly". It's literally the opposite to them. Their goal is to have as little inventory as possible, and to hell with how long the customer has to wait. He's been doing a masterful job of that for years.
Most inaccurate description of just in time I’ve seen yet, and I don’t even like Cook.
 
They'll be competitors at the higher end of the market but what are the chances of Apple making a car that it price competitive with the Model 3? ($35k for base model). I'd certainly be surprised.

Maybe the AppleCar SE may compete.. But the Pro Max line will start in the low 100's I'm sure.
 
Oh my. That would of been interesting.
"Would have". Or alternatively, "Would've".
You're welcome.

Now let's all play the game of "spellcheck Flight Plan's comments below". Should be fun! 😎
I am for one glad that that acquisition never went through. I love Apple, but healthy competition never hurt anyone...
Can't argue with this!
For real?

...Model S PLAID is...
Plaid doesn't look good on me. I'm waiting for the Paisley car, whoohoo!
funny how you immediately go straight to focusing on the stock price.

the electric vehicle credits will go away..
Electric anything isn't economically viable, and the fact that we have to have credits and tax breaks to sell the things? That's proof of my bold statement. Not economically viable. I wish it weren't so, but facts are facts.

Prove me wrong. Write to your CongressCritter and ask him/her/it to eliminate all kickbacks for electric cars. No tax breaks, no credits, not even an "attaboy" for buying one. Then let's see what happens.
...and they would have 100x the quality they have now.
I don't know about that. Apple's quality for several generations of the MacBook Pro have been lacking. There's been no end of problems, all the way from swelling batteries to bad motherboards and prematurely failing hinges, and all in huge numbers.

And nobody being able to buy parts! That bit is evil.
I’d love to see the look on his face when Apple releases this groundbreaking tech.

“One person who spoke to Reuters described Apple's battery technology as "next level" and said that it's similar to "the first time you saw the iPhone."
"One Person"? Was it you?

"One person" told me that the end is near. Well, she was talking to the fire hydrant and a USPS postal box. And here I thought she was just a crazy lady with less hygene than she had teeth, yelling at the buildings downtown. Maybe she had a point.
Elon Musk says a lot of things that are false or turn out to be a stretch. I highly doubt he would have sold Tesla for 1/10th of its value.

Remember this is a strange man who named his child X Æ A-1 after an aircraft😂
Lol, and he married c, the speed of light!

But I will say that SpaceX is kicking some ass out there. Not too shabby.
About the monocell: A Lithium Ion battery cell has a voltage of ~3.7V. The motors in electric cars need hundreds of volts to produce the required torque and speed. Boosting 3.7V to say, 370V would be infeasibly inefficient and the amount of current drawn by the process would be astronomical. I mean literally in the range of thousands of Amps. No realistic cable can handle that, let alone microelectronics.

It's only possible to do this if there are multiple cells in series, adding up their voltages and reducing the overall current draw. By that math you'd need about a hundred cells in series, but you might get away with I dunno, 50? 30? Still a far cry from being able to call it a "monocell".

As a bonus, if the "monocell" is damaged, or has any kind of problem, you guessed it, the whole thing is trash in once piece. You can't replace individual cells because there are none. See MacBook batteries.
As it turns out, the "C" cell is a great size of cell to use for all sorts of rechargeable battery devices, such as cars and cordless drills. Split open one of those battery packs and if you don't get yourself zapped, you'll see a bunch of C-cell batteries inside.

Hmmmm, maybe being with "the speed of light" (c) is making him a battery expert?
Exactly. He is a typical MBA. There is truth behind the joke that "MBA" stands for "mediocre but arrogant."
In my life's journey, I've found your saying to be true for people who get an MBA without real-world work experience. Your description does not match people who actually went out into the world to work before going back to school for an advanced degree.

If I ran a college or university, I'd make all Masters and Doctorate candidates go get some real-life working and living done before coming back for an advanced degree. Or pay 5000% more for their degree.

Politicians too, by the way. Too much school makes us into flibbertigibbets (regardless of sex/gender)!
Scary how eager people like you are to defend multi-billion dollar corporations.
Yep, just about as scary as somebody who always wants to persecute multi-billion dollor corporations. Just sayin'!
Don't worry, it'll be cheaper than an iCar Pro.
And only rich members of Congress will be able to afford the iCar Pro Max!
I hope you realize attacking Elon Musk is not a personal attack. It's only considered a personal attack on this forum when a member is a attacked. Attacking Elon Musk is attacking Tesla, just as attacking Tim Cook (which people love to do here) is attacking Apple. Each person is a company.
Each person is a company? Huh?
Elon can call people “pedo” but this guy can’t call Elon demented?
Sometimes the world needs a little bit of demented. I mean, hey; this guy's company lands rocket boosters on tiny little barges bobbing out in the ocean! Who thinks of that stuff? More importantly, who hires the people who think of that stuff?

Awesome, yes! Demented? Yes, and a little bit more than that, too.
I find it amusing that most of the time Musk sounds less mature than his girlfriend.
Oh, I don't know about that. Who's to say what's normal and what's wacky? We'll never exceed the speed of light if we don't try.

Um, wait...that didn't come out the way I heard it in my head...
 
1) Tim Cook is not in charge of aquisitions
2) Apple is not a VC company or in stock investment business
3) Apple does not need Tesla to build a car
4) Nobody knew Tesla would grow 10x
5) Elon probably "reached out to Apple" on Twitter
6) Tesla stock is overpriced as there is lot of hype (and probably was even at the time). Apple net income is almost 200x of Tesla.
 
Irrelevant. Money isn't the issue. Engineering team is.
Of course, when you don't have a sound rebuttal you call someone's argument irrelevant. 😂

Not Apple themselves, no. They have partners to manufacture the product.
And things like Mac Pro (manufactured by Flextronics) aren't high volume products. Apple Car will be a high volume product.
Good job! You must've worked hard looking for that info in order to support Tesla. 🙄
Oh if Apple can design a small chip (after relying on IBM and Intel for over 20 years), they can totally design a 5000 lb car complete with a custom battery pack and drive train right from the beginning, right?

No.
Not sure why you're here. You're working so hard being Anti-Apple. 👎
Yet, Waze still has more accurate traffic data than Apple Maps. Having live cars on the road can easily transmit traffic data through vision with 0 effort, drastically improving the accuracy over Waze. Among other things they can do too.
You're dead wrong. As a person who's drives professionally Waze still has a "Waze" to go. Absolutely horrible map layout. Falls short when in areas with very few users. Convoluted mapping. Craps on battery life. Apple Maps works far better than Waze. None of them are as good as Garmin.
 
I’m not spending my time googling for you. If I find three links with articles of Tesla’s catching on fire (which do exist), does that make you back down?

I'm talking about your wild accusation that I'm "underestimating China" when all signs are pointing to Tesla doing quite well in China. What specifically is making you think that I'm underestimating China? Because that's just how you feel?

All you're really doing is "I'm right and you're wrong, but I'm not going to bother researching this to see if it holds any water" which is quite stupid.

No. Throwing out examples of anecdotal “evidence” that some brand is good or bad proves only that you actually don’t have a clue.

You literally just threw out anecdotal story of someone not being able to open the car. By your logic, that means you don't have a clue. Did you just shoot yourself in the foot? Looks like it.

I’m making a prediction of the future. That is, by definition, guessing.

Predictions can be backed up with facts. You however are throwing out baseless guesses.

Speaking of time, I'm not going to bother continuing this with you. If you're just throwing out guesses with 0 data, what's the point? Have a good one.
 
Electric anything isn't economically viable, and the fact that we have to have credits and tax breaks to sell the things? That's proof of my bold statement. Not economically viable. I wish it weren't so, but facts are facts.

Prove me wrong. Write to your CongressCritter and ask him/her/it to eliminate all kickbacks for electric cars. No tax breaks, no credits, not even an "attaboy" for buying one. Then let's see what happens.

Sorry, what? Apple working on an electric car means they're in it to lose money in the long run after the credits and tax breaks go away?

Let's eliminate fossil fuel subsidies and electric car credits and see what happens. Sure. I'd love to see that. Considering Tesla still sold every car they made when federal credits went away, I think Tesla will be fine. Other car companies will have a tough time getting into the EV business.

And Tesla selling $8k software is pure margins on the car.
 
Interesting reading all these comments. IMO Tesla will remain a boutique car firm producing high-end luxury cars (although in all honestly their current quality is somewhat lacking to play in that field). If Apple produces a car it will be the same - although undoubtedly higher quality. I just don't see Apple actually producing their own car - I'm not sure where their project will go.

Once VW, and their partner Ford, gets their MEB platform really up and running they will be hard to compete with on cost and efficiency and THAT is where the mass market electric vehicles need to be. The id.4 is just about perfect for the American market.
 
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