what?
audio digital signal processing engineers coming from beats and joining the AirPods team isn't proof that AirPods was developed by Beats engineers? sorry, but that's a huge 🤦♂️
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Elon Musk Claims He Once Reached Out to Tim Cook About Tesla Purchase But Was Refused Meeting
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what?
audio digital signal processing engineers coming from beats and joining the AirPods team isn't proof that AirPods was developed by Beats engineers? sorry, but that's a huge 🤦♂️
i'm done talking with you.
nothing anyone says is going to convince me this was worth making Dre a billionaire. We all know Cook lies through his ....
Prove to me Facebook is a better company after buying instagram. I can do this **** all day.
Which they’ve likely more than made back — easily — through hardware sales and Apple Music subscriptions by now.
Hell, Apple Music alone has probably paid for the Beats acquisition by now, again easily. The hardware sales are just a bonus, which is probably why Apple’s pivoting to where Beats headphones are entry-level offerings and AirPods are their premium offerings.
I agree with that statement. Its not like Tesla reached out at early stages. They reached out when model S and X were super successful and amazing cars. Noone had anything even remotely close this amazing at the time and even now those models are really really good. Steve Jobs always wanted to make an Apple car and he did mentioned admiration or compliments to Elon Musk so if Apple wants to truly leave the planet the better then car is the next thing to really tackle. Whole transport system needs overhaul so that acquisition could be very beneficial. On the other hand, having Musk on the board could be a problem from a marketing point of view as he is a bit uncontrolled and sometimes unfiltered. Having said that though, having a meeting just to see if anything comes out of it is the least I could do.
Declining it before even hearing anything is a bit "arrogant" on Tim's end.
So instead of sitting with Trump who is against this he could have sit down with Elon (even if timeline is scattered
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With Apple's knowledge of logistics etc. and Elon's knowledge of cars and EV etc. this could bring some awesome and amazing products to the table. So in a way, its a shame but I guess it worked out well for Elon.
We will see with time what Tim missed out on but I doubt we will see anything soon out of Apple. A car takes time and if they want to offer something more than Tesla etc. then they really need to invest heavily and R&D must be insane.
So, overall, I doubt Apple can just enter and offer something better than what we already have. Elon is miles ahead of competition so projecting that Apple with no experience can enter and beat Elon is naive.
After all, it was Elon and his team who created the concept of reusable rockets for SpaceX that will allow for interplanetary travel (Mars). Apple doesn't have that luxury with anything. Car is not a phone so I doubt Apple will ever beat Tesla unless Apple comes with the software that will be the groundbreaking thing (which is the most likely scenario)
Declining it before even hearing anything is a bit "arrogant" on Tim's end.
So instead of sitting with Trump who is against this he could have sit down with Elon (even if timeline is scattered
)With Apple's knowledge of logistics etc. and Elon's knowledge of cars and EV etc. this could bring some awesome and amazing products to the table. So in a way, its a shame but I guess it worked out well for Elon.
We will see with time what Tim missed out on but I doubt we will see anything soon out of Apple. A car takes time and if they want to offer something more than Tesla etc. then they really need to invest heavily and R&D must be insane.
So, overall, I doubt Apple can just enter and offer something better than what we already have. Elon is miles ahead of competition so projecting that Apple with no experience can enter and beat Elon is naive.
After all, it was Elon and his team who created the concept of reusable rockets for SpaceX that will allow for interplanetary travel (Mars). Apple doesn't have that luxury with anything. Car is not a phone so I doubt Apple will ever beat Tesla unless Apple comes with the software that will be the groundbreaking thing (which is the most likely scenario)
Or a network of low earth satellites covering the globe in such a way that your transponder can be built in to the car and stay in constant communication as it moves.
Source? AirPods, AirPods Pro and the iPad audio system were all designed by Apple engineers unrelated to the beats acquisition.
He's arguing with everyone on this forum. Everything he is saying is filled with baseless claims. Don't waste anymore of your time.
Don't waste your time. He's made multiple baseless claims trying to get people to agree with his nonsense as if the rest of us are all wrong and he's right.
He started at Apple in 2017. Initially working on the some Beats project and then moving to an Apple Air Pods project. Apple acquired Beats in 2014. Your timeline does not really work very well.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/orenslevy/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/adam-strauss-a36a563/
No reference to AirPods. He was a DSP engineer, working in Culver City, so he is still working on Beats products, not on Apple products.
Also based in Culver City, also no reference to Air Pods.
He worked on a Spatial audio research project ending in 2014. Still in Culver City, not at Apple Corporate.
Also in Culver City.
Not one of the people you listed works at Apple in Cupertino. They all work on Beats products, not on Apple branded products.
The current Tesla Model S Performance currently holds it's own with the Taycan. Faster off the line and then the Taycan picks up. In a quarter though, Model S is still beating it but it's pretty even.
However, 90k vs 185k between the two. 201 miles of range vs 387 for the Model S.
I don't know how you could try to argue that Tesla isn't dominating the EV market. With the competitors right now, you have one of two things. 1. There is some demand but they can't get enough batteries to make the vehicle (artificial demand essentially) OR 2. There isn't the demand and they keep having to discount them.
Then there are two main obstacles for EV acquisition of ice customers: cost and range. Cost, Tesla has some competition now. But when you factor range and with that their charging infrastructure, there's no match. Where I live in the US, the 350kw Electrify America stations never get anywhere near those speeds and most of the reviews have them anywhere from 35-55kw rate. So all this leads to one thing, people have more confidence in transitioning to Tesla over others.
Back to the topic on hand, regardless of people's opinions on Elon. I'd be pretty disappointed in Tim if he had the opportunity to talk with Tesla/Elon and didn't even entertain the idea. IMO, there are certain players in industries where you at least listen.
What makes you think Apple couldn’t have made quality Bluetooth earbuds and headphones without acquiring a brand that made headphones that were mediocre for their price point and prone to break? They definitely didn’t need to acquire another company to get in that market. Same thing applies to their streaming service— they already had iTunes in place. It’s not like they were starting from nowhere and the company really needed to buy Beats to get into new markets.
BIG MISTAKE.
APPLE should have bought TESLA
This Apple car is never going to sell as well as TESLA cars.
APPLE BLEW IT.
Once agin Tim Cook makes a bad decision.
APPLE should have bought TESLA
This Apple car is never going to sell as well as TESLA cars.
APPLE BLEW IT.
Once agin Tim Cook makes a bad decision.
Baseless? Once again I ask for proof - of which you do not have.
Don't waste your time @Maconplasma. Bet your enjoyed having that U2 song stuffed up your playlist too.
I think Tim dodged a bullet with this unless it would have came with out Elon. I could imagine someone with the persona of Elon driving Tim Cook insane all day. I do not really see Tesla and Apple really fitting together because if Elon came with the package he likes to take Moonshots all day. Apple is more calculated and a slow burn and likes to take time with things.
I doubt this is a case of the Blockbuster/Netflix mistake for example.
I doubt this is a case of the Blockbuster/Netflix mistake for example.
It doesn't have to sell as well as TESLA. it just has to sell and do a better job at what it is trying to sell and if it's proven to be a mistake in the future when the volumes of early 21st century business have been written then so shall it be.
Apple has enough cash and will continue to have that to where they can make a misstep every now and then and they will pause, learn and continue the journey on and also I would like to see proof this even happened before we "Ring the alarm" to quote Beyonce.
The mere words of a half stoned, fully arrogant Elon Musk are not enough for me. Show me documents this happened because someones Word is merely not enough.
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What proof? You never asked me for proof of anything. I think you're mixed up with the wrong member. Not sure why you even said anything about U2.
Jesus. What a moronic move on Apple and specifically Tim Cook’s part. Short sighted and stupid. End of story.
glad Elon didn’t end up selling. He can mop the floor with Apples delay to market.
glad Elon didn’t end up selling. He can mop the floor with Apples delay to market.
Did you even read it?
Again, you failed to read.
Your assertion that Culver City engineers don't work on AirPods is 100% wrong. In fact this live Culver City Audio Engineer listing makes no mention of Beats but mentions AirPods: https://jobs.apple.com/en-us/details/200199525/audio-firmware-engineer?team=SFTWR
Please re-read the profiles and then admit you were wrong.
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Please read my previous reply up above and then tell me your source of where Apple engineers exclusively worked on AirPods, AirPods Pro, and the iPad audio system with 0 relation to Beats.
Weird how you're asking me a source for my information, yet you don't provide anything for yours.
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Correct. And if Elon Musk is around in Apple... he might take Cook's spot. He didn't take the meeting for a reason.
Tim Cook is a business man, not a ****ed up in the head narcissist rooster. He doesn't have time to deal with children like this.
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